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(Message started by: Prense on Aug 2nd, 2003, 10:31am)

Title: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Prense on Aug 2nd, 2003, 10:31am
Alcohol triggers attacks for me, and of course the obvious solution is to avoid it.  However, it does not ALWAYS trigger an attack.  I have noticed in the past that if I "sip" a beer, mixed drink or whatever, I tend to be more proned to getting hit.  What does sip mean exactly?  1 drink > 45 mins or so.  If I "pound" drinks, I am normally "ok".  Well, drunk, but normally I don't get hit.  The intent is not to get shitfaced, but not to get hit either.  Anyone have any experience with this other than avoidance?  I would really like to hear of some of your personal experiences.   :)

Thanks,
Chris

P.S.  I Really love those Orange smoothy things from TGIF's (wish they weren't alcoholic)

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Big_Dan on Aug 2nd, 2003, 10:40am
For me... I always get at least a kip 4 when I'm in cycle, and drink anything... 1 beer... 10 beers... doesn't matter... and the more I drink, the longer it hurts, and less effective the Imitrex is at aborting them...

... another thing I have dicovered, is that harder alcohol (especially Turkey) makes the pain even more terrible..

beer - k4 through 6...
whiskey - nothing less than a k8...

-Big Dan

p.s. I've also noticed, that if you've still got alcohol in your system, your going to have a HA once any preventative you've taken has worn off...

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Georgia on Aug 2nd, 2003, 10:50am
I don't have any experience with slamming vs sipping. I can say this though; certain drinks are a trigger for me, certain other drinks are not. I follow this basic guideline:

tequila = good...very very good

rum = bad

gin = good (as long as I am not left alone with anyone of
                 the opposite sex that is not my husband)

wine = iffy, sometimes ok, sometimes not

corona = good

Bud, Miller, etc = bad

amaretto sours = oh ya....taste like lychee..good good

whiskey = good

vodka = iffy

That's all my studies have proven thus far.



Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by River_Rat on Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:26am
Hey Chris, I have noticed the exact same thing, i like beer, and I can put it away. I've been known to polish off a case in a day on the river. But under no cercumstance would I just drink one or two. My saying USED to be "if your gonna do then do it" no pissing around.

Anyway, about three years ago, I went to a wedding, with the intentions of drinking fast and hard.

I got a headache 7-8 maybe, I took a shot and hit the brewski's again, holy fuck then came a 10 this 10 lasted almost 4 hours and the shots didn't work, I honestly don't even know how I made it through that.

Not to be mellow dramatic but If I didn't have kids and a wife that loves me I swear I would have checked out!

Thats my story, and I have never touched a drink in cycle again.

But I will say everyother time I did it that way it worked. But I'm just not prepared to dance with a 10 for 4 hours ever again.

Good Luck and Good Vibes

LEE

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Prense on Aug 2nd, 2003, 11:49am
Thanks Lee,

Problem is I don't get "cycles" life is ONE big cycle  :(  However, I don't get hit hard continuously like I read about folks do that get them in cycles so that I can be grateful about.  Two ways to look at everything right?   ;D

Thanks for the inputs guys and gals...keep em coming!

Chris

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by jonny on Aug 2nd, 2003, 12:04pm
No triggers what so ever, you would figure that after 28 years chronic I would find atleast one.....LMMFAO ;D

...........................jonny

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by suzy617 on Aug 2nd, 2003, 12:53pm
While in cycle I cannot drink beer at all but I can drink vodka and it doesnt trigger the CH. I will still get my normal hit during the night BUT if I drink ALOT of vodka I will not get hit. So what do I do? I try on the weekends to drink LOTS of vodka and I am alway PF that night. Too bad I couldnt do that during the week but I do need to pay the bills. I wondered if the reason is something similar to the dramamine thing that it might prevent you from going into REM sleep.

Suzy who will be stocking up on my imitrex and vodka for next cycle...

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by River_Rat on Aug 2nd, 2003, 1:00pm
I think I might try the vodka treatment--after all it is Saturday. What do you drink it with?

BTW. Suz That mermaid Pic makes me Horny LOL ;D

LEE

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Prense on Aug 2nd, 2003, 1:02pm

Quote:
No triggers what so ever, you would figure that after 28 years chronic I would find atleast one.....


bleah

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by jonny on Aug 2nd, 2003, 2:00pm
http://tinyurl.com/6xmh

Jonny's cool brew

$170 (Canadian) sunglasses

And a $100 ashtray (Not pictured)

Ahhhh, I love Vancouver......LOL ;D

..............................jonny

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by suzy617 on Aug 2nd, 2003, 2:37pm
Lee, I only drink it with club soda.
Hands off my mermaid.  ;D

Suzy

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 2nd, 2003, 4:10pm
Abstain from beer when in cycle.  If we're out and I want to take a chance (and it is a chance), I'll have something with Vodka,.... like an olive.

Steve G

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by JDH on Aug 2nd, 2003, 4:49pm
Not a sipper, always been a pounder   :o
I can't drink at all when I'm in a cycle. It'll trigger a h/a everytime before getting through the first drink.

Jim

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Jayne on Aug 2nd, 2003, 5:02pm
That happens to me too. If I sip I get hit. If I drink steady and fast I don't get hit. It doesn't work ALL of the time, but a lot of the time. Wierd Huh?

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by Charlie on Aug 2nd, 2003, 5:29pm
Like Jonny, beer was never a trigger. I can't say I thought about it much and because I rarely drink alone, I probably drank very little. I was even less social than usual during a cycle.

Keep up your experiments Georgia

Charlie

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by litlgriz on Aug 14th, 2003, 12:31pm
being a b tender by trade,ive had plenty o time 2 x prmnt,i believe the yeast in beer is part of   it, diff beers diff yeast content,yeast is a mold ,allergies any 1 .   vodka , rum,etc.........     well theres the proof 2 consider ,amnt of alch,what mixed with,etc....i used 2 drink bud like i owned the co ,then they started ,switched 2 bud lite,,,,,,got horribly worse....finally,sticking with the bud family,went 2 naturaL LITE, i could drink all day n nite no problem,    eventually tried bud n b lite again ,,,boom.............. back 2 natty lite,,,eventually gave up on beer,went 2 rum n coke,,,not pr ob 4 a while, now ....boom........switching 2 vodka n oj  litl or lot ,sip or pound dont matter,dont do teq,,bad days in school   (r member hi school)   may b should go back 2   M.D. 20/20 lol..............      just my input ,another p o view,shed a litl lite????????   callme litlgriz, good luck ooooooooooooo i hate these shadows..................

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by BobG on Aug 14th, 2003, 1:56pm
"Hey Doc.......I got a paniful problem. When I smash my thumb real hard with a hammer it hurts real bad. Then when I smash it again it hurts ever worse."

"Stop smashing it"

"Would it be ok if I just smash it kinda easy four or five times?"

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by River_Rat on Aug 14th, 2003, 3:25pm
Good Stuff Bob!!

LEE

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by vig on Aug 14th, 2003, 3:27pm
no booze for me...we're ALL better off.

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by JoeKen on Aug 14th, 2003, 4:23pm
:)
Just thought that I would put my 2 penn'orth in.
When I am in cycle even a sniff of the barmaid's apron will bring on a KIP 6 to 8 for several hours, but when out of cycle, some drinks do and some drinks don't.
I have a personal theory that any drinks, alcoholic or not, that contain Aspartane (aka Aspartan and Aspartame, depending on where in the world you are), bring on a CH  -  I am almost certain that this is the situation for me, but as many (alcoholic) drinks do not contain a list of ingredients, it is difficult to be sure.
So, lite beers, lo-cal mixers, industrially brewed spirits and wines give me CH, when in or out of cycle,, but 'good' booze, (Plymouth Gin, Californian wine etc.) leaves me completely unaffected when out of cycle, (except when drunk to excess of course !!!).
Anybody else,have the same experience?
Georgia, with the above in mind, I scoured your list of findings to see if it your experiments gave similar results but I kept getting side tracked by the report of your findings for Gin  -  I think that I would like to carry out a joint experiment with you with Plymouth Gin  -  what do you think?  -  if you can't find any, I will bring a bottle for each of us.
Have a nice weekend.
JoeKen.

Title: Re: Question about alcohol (trigger)
Post by vig on Aug 14th, 2003, 4:29pm
"even a sniff of the barmaid's apron"

Hey if you're sniffin' aprons, you better lay off the booze!



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