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(Message started by: ozzman on Jul 28th, 2003, 8:58am)

Title: 'Nother Poll
Post by ozzman on Jul 28th, 2003, 8:58am
I think it was mentioned befor but not in poll form. Somewhere a loong time ago I read that there may some sort of connection with head injury and CHs With as much as 6 years before the onset of symptoms. How about 10 years? I don' t know. So for our weekly poll here is the question:

Did you sustain any sort of significant head trauma up to 10 years prior to the time when you began having CHs?

Me exactly 10 years before I started to get CHs (I was 4) I fell off my dad's F-150 roof head first agains the concrete! ;D

(I know, I know, that explains everything...LOL) (That's not even counting the time I got hit, on the head of course, by a shovel {9 years old}, or the time I got hit with a rock {16}, but those were only surface wounds, and not significant.. ohhh, I just remember another one, but I think I' m going to stop now.


Ozzy

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by catlind on Jul 28th, 2003, 9:36am
Hmmm I have suffered a head injury, but nothing major.  The only one I can think of before the CH nightmare kicked into full gear was when I was tobagoning toboganning tabogan.. sledding with the kids.

I was going down the hill at an alarming rate of speed and stopped myself by using my head on a mogul.  Worked like a charm, stopped dead in my slide and sat there for several min. after coming too. ;)

Cat

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by echo on Jul 28th, 2003, 9:42am

Got hit in the head numerous times by frozen disks of rubber growing up.  Don't personally think it has anything to due with my CH, but most definately has something to due with the number of missing teeth I have.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by aprilbee on Jul 28th, 2003, 9:49am
I was in 5th grade and I got this crazy idea to shake my head side to side as hard as I could.  it was about 2 years later I started getting CH.  I still to this day can't turn my head around really fast.  I get dizzy and sick.  Maybe I shook my brain loose...Does that count as head trauma?   :P

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Ree on Jul 28th, 2003, 10:18am
Dave did get in a motorcycle accident but thinks that was a fluke........ He has no idea but he landed on his head...
Another time he had a neck injury(trampoline... what a goober) that triggered them made them come a year early and lasted the longest ever 7 months...
I am hoping you are wrong because I had a concussion this year and already suffer from Migraine........... enough is enough if ya know what i mean...my head is killin me right now because of HIS clusters.  I couldnt sleep at all last night.  Ree~~~whose signing off for the day to get stuff done... (havin a cootie moment there)

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by fubar on Jul 28th, 2003, 10:42am
Possible... At 18 months old I was thrown across the room into a wall.  The pictures of that black and blue (head to foot) baby are enough to make you puke.  I've often wondered if there was a connection.

[the criminal was put behind bars]

-Fu

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Jul 28th, 2003, 11:46am
not

mast

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Roxy on Jul 28th, 2003, 11:52am
Knocked myself out twice while working on a plow  ::).  But, nothing major.....just concussions and stitches.  Don't know if that would count as head injuries severe enough or not.

Tracey

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Live4Fun on Jul 28th, 2003, 11:59am
There are rumors that my oldest sister dropped me on my head when I was 3 months old... that explains a lot about me, but probably not my CHs :) :)

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by ozzman on Jul 28th, 2003, 11:59am
six - yes
one - no
one - maybe (Liv4)
Supporters post too! It would be nice to know to contrast/compare with sufferers.

Ozzy

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Gofishgriff on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:06pm
No head injuries here.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Hound_Dogg on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:08pm
No head injury prior to getting C.H.. Neck & upper back injury, but not the head.

Jim

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by There_Back on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:22pm
Grew up as a rebel, crashed the bike, crashed the car, was hit once in the temple with a rock, skied into a fence post and was knocked out in addition to several fights. so the answer is yes and I'm sure there were way more times then I can remember.

My father also had these monsters.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Live4Fun on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:28pm
LOL Ozz - I don't really think my sister dropped me, that was just my family picking on me for being so strange.

I did think of two other instances (about 10 years before my clusters started) in little league baseball I got knocked out by a line drive (the baseball left the imprint of stitches in my head for weeks) and another game where I had a head on collision with the catcher trying to catch the same baseball.  (Yes, we were like the bad news bears  ;D )

You could probably mark mine to a yes...

Bryan

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by KingOfPain on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:35pm
When I was a kid, my sister hit me in the head with a baseball bat (no kidding).   :o

Does that count?

CH started when I was 21ish.




KingOfPain

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Major_Headcase on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:40pm
5 years before my first CH cycle, I underwent spinal surgury to replace a blown disk in my neck (C4-C5). The disk blew out about 18 months before that, but no insurance so I had to wait 18 months before Voc Rehab finally picked up my case (long story). I'm not sure if neck stuff counts for this survey, but my gut feeling is that my surgury and my CH are somehow connected.

Boy, nothing like having a group of strangers knock you out, tie you down, slit your throat, and wield sharp pointy things around your spinal cord to remind you just how precious, and fragile, Life is.   ;D

-John  

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by klp on Jul 28th, 2003, 12:53pm
yep, landed me in a coma for 2 days. happened about 9 years before i started to get hit, damn i was stupid when i was young.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by hopefull on Jul 28th, 2003, 1:00pm
Hit with a piano bench top at 4yrs busted head open then at 8 car wreck big knot on head...at 14 fell down stairs

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by NotH20 on Jul 28th, 2003, 1:36pm
Nopey - no head trauma here   ;D

Mia

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by vig on Jul 28th, 2003, 1:41pm
Yes, I did have a head injury,... about 2 years before CH started, but I don't remember it, seriously.
-p-

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Melissa on Jul 28th, 2003, 1:48pm
Nope, no head injury that I know of.  Only thing I got was whiplash when I was 16.  Was leaning over, changing the radio station in my boyfriend's car (not buckled) when a deer jumped out in front of us.  After that happened, my neck would freeze up, and I couldn't turn it.  My CH's began not too long after that.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by FrankF on Jul 28th, 2003, 1:48pm
I belong to another online support group for traumatic brain injury survivors and family (wife was in a coma for 7 weeks).
Several people there complain of daily headaches, though I can think of only one who said it was cluster headaches. I think I'll go ask the question.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by brain_cramps on Jul 28th, 2003, 1:57pm
Not enough fingers to count the concussions I've had over the years...   (hockey)

One particular concussion 6 months prior to my first CH that required a hospital stay.

grant        :-[

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by ozzman on Jul 28th, 2003, 2:13pm
Will let run for another day or so and will post the tally. It seems so far over 90% (made up numbers, too lazy and tired to really figure it out) of sufferers had some sort of head injury.

Interesting...

Maybe that's why, we, as a bunch, just ain' t right!!  ;D ;D

Ozzy

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Kirk on Jul 28th, 2003, 2:14pm
Grew on a commercial fishing boat and spent 4 years in the Marines (68-72), how many times I was knocked out had stiches or both. I don't know. Way to young and stupid to keep track.


TTFN

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by 9erfan on Jul 28th, 2003, 2:33pm
Nope, no head injury....although some people who know me would probably disagree.   ::)


on 07/28/03 at 10:42:42, fubar wrote:
Possible... At 18 months old I was thrown across the room into a wall.  The pictures of that black and blue (head to foot) baby are enough to make you puke.  I've often wondered if there was a connection.

[the criminal was put behind bars]

-Fu


Holy Crap Fu!! I'm just glad it wasn't fatal!

V

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by jonny on Jul 28th, 2003, 2:52pm
Seems to me that if a head injury has anything to do with CH it would probably have an effect on ones sex drive, the CH problem is in the hypothomala thingy which is where you get your sex drive so I hear on the radio from one of these sex docs.

Anyone here have no sex drive?

Like I said, I heard it on the radio

.........................................jonny

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Spindrift on Jul 28th, 2003, 2:55pm
Well, Nixon's elections, especially the second one, shook me up pretty good....

I do recall an incident in my late 20s on a rooftop where I was setting off firecrackers.  Got to the point of lighting them in bags in my hand and as I'd turn my head to avoid getting blasted the loud cracks seemed to particularly impact my right ear, which is the side of the head I get CHs.

For years afterward I'd feel a numbness/headache/loss of hearing in that ear before my first real bout of CHs some 18-20 years later.  I think I was having "proto-clusters" before my first major 2 month-long cycle.  At that point I was diagnosed, but I always had the nagging suspicion those damn 'crackers had something to do with it all.

s

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by fubar on Jul 28th, 2003, 3:14pm

on 07/28/03 at 14:52:44, jonny wrote:
Anyone here have no sex drive?

.........................................jonny


Ya, like ANYBODY is gonna admit to that.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by eyes_afire on Jul 28th, 2003, 6:01pm
I've had head injury, but it was probably more like 15 years before CH.  Got knocked out cold playing... soccer of all things (head-to-head collision with my best friend  ::)).  Bad headache, short term memory loss... a certain concussion although back then we were kids and we didn't care about concussions.

... now that I think about it, I suspect that my first CH symptoms occured all the way back when I was having 'eye problems'.  I had to stop wearing contact lenses back in the early 1990's because I had a persistently red and irritated left eye (CH side... headaches were not uncommon but of course I wasn't paying attention way back then).  I was being treated by a top-notch opthamologist.  She was concerned I was having a bad reaction but she could never determine the problem and nothing ever really helped.  So I don't know... maybe the concussion was more like 10 years prior...???

--- Steve

Title: polish fever
Post by rumplestiltskin on Jul 28th, 2003, 7:02pm
My CH began after a severe neck/upper  back injury at work 8 years ago. In retrospect...I shoulda done that workers comp thing.

Cooincidence? God ain't talkin.

I can't ignore what happened to me...butt I know I am in a teensy minority.

This theoretical "tie-in to trauma" fishing line has been tossed out here at CH.com mor'n a few times over the years.

Not totally black and white...more of a grey matter.

Due to the lack of immediate CH following an injury, the numbers of "bubble people" with CH and the growing evidence that the CH cause is a "central brain mechanism" malfunction.....I am forced to concede that at this juncture....it is my opinion that there ARE people who are predisposed to CH (hypothalymussedup) and yet for some reason do not develop the full blown Syndrome till some catalist occurs...like a bitch slap.... to trigger it....like me.

I don't know a hormone from an angel cry...so the pathological/neurological/chemical stuff is wasted on me ...I greatly admire and appreciate those who strive to figure that shit out...like my Georgia and Ueli, and Bob P, old timers like Gary G. and the rest of you eggheads.

Walk in the sunshine
den


Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by firebrix on Jul 28th, 2003, 7:07pm
Mopar whacked his head pretty hard on a huge H beam about three months before his ha. started. He was wearing a hard hat, but it was a good whack. We wondered whether it may have had some effect but both his doc and neuro thought not.
I, on the other hand have had so many serious head injuries including two fractures, it isn't funny - yet I am Ch free, (but get those unmentionable ha, due to the crashes.)
Interesting..............
firebrix

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Charlie on Jul 28th, 2003, 7:35pm
In 1953, my forehead made an abrupt acquaintance of the dashboard of our 1951 Packard. I wasn't unconscious though. My epilepsy began in 1959 and my CH in 1969.

Nothing there kids. The timing is way off. I'm with Den.

Charlie

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by AlienSpaceBabe on Jul 28th, 2003, 8:22pm
Heck, I was a tomgirl (hehehe). Lots and lots of head injuries as well as several concussions.


on 07/28/03 at 14:52:44, jonny wrote:
Anyone here have no sex drive?

.........................................jonny


um... well.... from what I hear, I seem to have the exact opposite problem   :-[

Lizzie

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by cootie on Jul 28th, 2003, 11:23pm
(ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Lizz....I member talkin bout that on the famus convention connection porch)........anyhow.....where was I.....oh yeah.......I'm a supporter so I don't count in this but wanted to ask a question ta Major_Headcase.....is neck surgery in that area always done in the matter you spoke.......if so I must say surgery in the future mentiond by my doc is OUTA THE QUESTION for me then. (mine is a pinched off spinal cord and bone spurs with arthritis and spasms....degenerative disk deal also real bad and no room for the cord to move thru normally. Sorry to be off thread but first I ever heard of the procedure for that...inquireing minds wannna know Pam that is now SKEERT !!!!  :o

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Georgia on Jul 29th, 2003, 2:26am
Nope...no head, neck, back injury here.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by Hooter on Jul 29th, 2003, 2:39am
Hasn't almost everyone had concussion at least once when drunk? Or is it just me??

No real head injuries here, but quite a few falling off bar stool type mishaps

Hooter

Sex drive? I used to have one of those but my kid knicked it.

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by ozzman on Jul 29th, 2003, 6:58am
I'm in the process of analyzing all this crap information but I think I'm with Den. There may be a predisposition to CH that needs a catalyst. Much like individual cycles (Shut up Jonny I know you' re chronic, and that you were dropped on your head one too many times ;) )

Like I was saying before I was interreupted by a thought, much like individual cycles need a catalyst for the cycle to start (too much stress, too little sleep, longest day of the year, shortest day of the year, blue balls, whatever..) perhaps CHs, for people " predisposed"  to them need a certain something to get them in motion. It could be head injury, or say like in N4H for what I remember, he got his after being at some mines in Peru (diff. Latitude, barometric pressure, lack of oxygen, etc)

I'm going to have to keep reading on the hypothalamus, it's too interesting.

Ozzy

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by aprilbee on Jul 29th, 2003, 7:25am
on the sex drive question, I'll be brave and let you know that my husband can get very "frustrated" at times, but I also have a 10 year old that has no clue how to knock on a door...so not sure if its CH or having children.  :-/

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by godsjoy on Jul 29th, 2003, 7:37am
I got into a go-cart accident when I was 10....went under a hurricane fence and slammed into the ticket box....was knocked unconscious and knocked out a fron permanent tooth....hmmmmm.....I remember having a killer "pacing" headache sometime a year or so after that after being in the sun all day long.....I walked all around the house for at least an hour while the meds....whatever they were (probably good ones as my Mom suffered from headaches and my Dad was a doctor....GOOD meds)....

4 years ago right in the middle of a winter cycle I fell backwards down an elevator shaft in a home I was working in....Doc said I got a mild cuncussion....At least the homeowner's insurance started paying for imitrex this time...hehehe....Little blessings!
I am so glad I found you guys.....It helps me sort through the stuff and find out what's worth trying.....

Love and blessings,
Karen

Title: Re: 'Nother Poll
Post by jimbo on Jul 29th, 2003, 9:59am
Head trauma, twice but the HA's started before that as I recall.

No sex drive, no friggen way.

Jimbo: Hey Hon, how about a quickie?
Barb: As opposed to what? LOL

Seeya,

Jimbo who is no where near needing viagra.



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