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Title: Cluster headaches and rage Post by ab15 on Jul 12th, 2003, 11:46am Does anyone else here get really aggressive when they get a cluster headache? Whenever I get a full-blown headache (or, to a lesser extent, a phantom headache) I get really filled with pure rage and just want to tear apart everything and everyone that I see. This has led to some bad things, such as people being thrown across tables by their backpacks, trees being snapped, and cracks being put into large doors. Any advice would be appreciated. |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by don on Jul 12th, 2003, 11:52am Quote:
Yeah you might say I get a little edgy. Just ask my neighbors or anyone who has suggested I lie down with a wet face cloth. 1. Dont go hiking 2. Go to the ocean 3. Buy stock in Home Depot |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by sueellen83 on Jul 12th, 2003, 1:26pm ab 15, I have a complete personality change when I'm in cycle. I become very aggressive and hateful. Don't know if it's the CH or the meds. , though. |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by jonny on Jul 12th, 2003, 1:42pm Buy a heavy bag and slam the shit out of it when the beast comes. ..................jonny |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Jayne on Jul 12th, 2003, 1:44pm I get VERY angry when I am getting hit...and what I find interesting, and would love to know if this happens to anyone else...... while in the middle of a headahce, I start remembering things from the past or recent past of things that upset me or made me mad, and they flash through my mind which fuels my anger. I know it's not the meds, because, I am a very laid back person, until I get hit, then everything pisses me off. |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by FrankF on Jul 12th, 2003, 2:36pm Like this? http://users.adelphia.net/~frankford/images/DCP_0723.jpg Not something I'm proud of... but putting holes in the wall helped take my mind off of the pain for a couple of minutes. |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by jonny on Jul 12th, 2003, 2:39pm Hey Frank, I can fix that for ya for $200, owned a drywall company in the 80's.......I know it aint plaster cause you would have shattered your hand. Me?, I like ripping doors from the hinges, but thats just me ;D ............................jonny |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Jayne on Jul 12th, 2003, 3:32pm Yeah!!!! I punch my pillow and shout "Darn it" "Golly Gosh" "Silly headache...go away" Then I go in the kitchen and throw grapes out the window.. Yeah...I'm angry! ;D |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by oringkid on Jul 12th, 2003, 4:58pm I don't get angry or go into a rage, but I can get irritated and snappish very quickly while being hit if someone keeps on asking me questions. Jonny, $200?? I need to have my husband talk to you... he prolly would have charged $80 for that... (he tends to be behind the times as far as knowing what to charge LOL) Sherry |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Pushkin on Jul 12th, 2003, 5:04pm I am generally an angry person during cluster cycles, but what is more interesting to me is that anger definitely is a trigger, and going through angry life experiences may even trigger a cycle. I just went through some work related stuff that caused a lot of anger and I believe it was a factor in my present cycle starting. This has been the case several times in the past. Now that I'm in a cycle, get me angry and a HA is SURE to follow. Anger management as a possible abortive/prophylactic for CH for some of us - crazy, but this whole business is crazy. |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by catlind on Jul 12th, 2003, 5:21pm I go through a complete and total personality change whenever I am in cycle. I too, get angry, am very irritable, and extremely bitchy. Instead of the traditional 0-Bitch in 4.1 seconds, during a cycle it's more like 2 seconds ;) Cat |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by daveengland on Jul 12th, 2003, 5:36pm my CH's have been chronic since i separated from the mother of my kid.been very stressful since then,sure its something to do with it |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Georgia on Jul 12th, 2003, 5:44pm Anger does not trigger a CH for me...but I have been known to show a wee bit of rage. Sometimes, during a real bad CH, I stop praying for the CH to stop and start praying that some mother fucker tries to mess with me. Like this one time I was at the theatre - had a bit part as an extra mom in Miracle on 34th St - got hit with a 10 - ended up in the alley just wishin and prayin some psycho would appear out of the darkness. No one did though, and Den kept all the "nice, helpful" people away from me. One other time, though...I was at a club, doing a friend a favor....got hit...some stupid fucking wench kept trying to talk us into dancing....we told her over and over to leave us the fuck alone...then she slapped me in the head...big mistake...the next thing I remember, the band had stopped playing, jumped off the stage and was trying to pull me off this girl. Apparently, I had, in one movement, leapt from my chair, picked her up by the throat, and slammed her against the wall. Her feet were still a good foot of the ground when they finally got me off her. I was trying to strangle her. To death. That was pretty serious rage and pretty seriously scared the shit out of me. I guess you can ask Den how pleasant I am to be around when the shadows are heavy or the hits are coming. :) |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by jonny on Jul 12th, 2003, 6:11pm georgia, You married the wrong guy, you and I could make our way across the country doing as we please (Good back up is hard to find) taking what we want......ahhh, hell, thats been done in a movie, huh? Oh well, it was a nice thought ;D .................................jonny |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Marc on Jul 12th, 2003, 6:23pm Nope. I have a very long fuse with an explosive temper attached to the other end. I avoid losing it - because I cannot control it when I do. But when the pain ramps up, anger disintegrates. I disappear inside of myself, getting lost in the agony. Nothing else exists.........my world is reduced to just me....and pain I couldn't possibly find the focus to become enraged. The primal instincts of fear and escape consume me. At the end of the tunnel euphoria sets in. I'm ready for the worst - life is good again..... Marc |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Mark C on Jul 12th, 2003, 7:01pm |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by smfaison on Jul 12th, 2003, 7:07pm I am an episodic sufferer. I usually get my cycle in the summertime, every other year. I have gone on Prednisone over the past several cycles. I have noticed that my fuse gets real short and I get wound up real easy, but Pred is an anabolic steroid and I think this is one of its known effects. I don't remember getting like this before I took the Prednisone. I am tapering off the Prednisone now because it has been replaced with Depakote and Bellergel. The Bellergel is ergotamine and phenobarbitol, which should make me a relaxed guy! |
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Title: what the fuck are you lookin at? Post by rumplestiltskin on Jul 12th, 2003, 8:41pm Damn stuff is breakin thru my verapamil barrier... At the precursors and lower Kip #s I resemble an impatient, irritated, insensitive son of bitch...when it starts rampin up.... just get the fuck out of my way. Don't be starin at me. You don't know what the fuck yer talkin about. Pretend I don't exist...unless yer in my way. I don't give a shit if I won the lottery! Tell me later! I'll break, toss, shove, dump, anything to get to my meds, O2, and a place to dance...including humans and animals that get in my way. I was outside today tryin to exercise it off...the Vera has spoiled me. Most of the rare ones that hit never get to real pain....this one did. Deep in the pain...runnin fer the O2...SOME SON OF A BITCH LOCKED THE BACK DOOR!...steel door 1... hand 0. My mind raced to blame Georgia, all the worlds fucking lock manufacturers, society fer makin me HAVE to lock my door, and Jonny...just for good measure. Once I get my meds, O2 flowin and a place to dance...there ain't nothin to do but ride it out....rage and terror and prayers that contain enough "fucks" to curl an archangels wings....and theres the fleeting thoughts about people who say they post to this board while havin a CH... .... .... .... ....then its time fer makin amends to anyone I slammed. God just pats me on the head and says "...and you were sayin?" The "Hulk" disappears into my vault... ...birdies sing...babies coo...time resumes it's normal passage...and I'm ole sweet lovable Den again...with a sore hand. Good Grief den |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by RevDeFord on Jul 12th, 2003, 8:42pm Unfortunately, I am filled with rage almost all the time now. I have always been high strung, and had a bad temper, but I feel like I am on the edge all the time now. And I don't think it will dissipate after my cycle is ended. I don't know what is wrong with me. I took martial arts for 17 years, used to own my own school. I never did anything stupid like breaking bricks, but I did break boards on 3 black belt tests. I hit a desk at work the other day and completely destroyed the top of the desk, much to the dismay of my co-workers. All because a customer was refusing to pay a bill because they were lying and saying they did not have the CD that I delivered on a computer project. I almost got in a fight a few weeks ago with a mexican dude in Walmart who decided he didn't want the toy he was carrying around so he decided he would put it in my cart. When I said something to him he turned and bristled like he wanted a piece. There were 3 plain clothes security guards watching him and they had to tackle me to keep me from being on this dude. So to say I have rage is an understatement. USually noone sees it though. Not even my wife. |
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Title: Re: what the fuck are you lookin at? Post by Georgia on Jul 12th, 2003, 9:19pm on 07/12/03 at 20:41:04, rumplestiltskin wrote:
I locked the back door on purpose. Would you want this maniac in YOUR house? Go ahead and blame me, but that might make me angry and I don't think you'll like me when I'm angry. (see above post) And as for the amends....I'm WAITING, BITCH!! Sweet, lovable Den...NOW THAT IS FUNNY! I had some sweet sappy stuff written here, but I just erased it all. The little demon troll is really starting to piss me off now. I thought it would be better to erase all the nice stuff instead of entertaining all the evil little thoughts running through my head right now about how to make the little pig squeal. But then again... Jonny - let's ride...but only if you call me Malorie. ;) How do you like me now? |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Roxy on Jul 12th, 2003, 9:30pm I tend to be more like Marc. I have a very, very long fuse....but when I lose my temper, I damn well lose it. At a level 7, I can be a tad bit snappish with people, but as the head ramps up......I disassociate with whatever is happening around me. I can't phrase it any better than Marc did: Quote:
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by don on Jul 12th, 2003, 10:24pm Quote:
Whew! Remind me to nevver piss YOU off! |
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Title: the trouble with normal Post by rumplestiltskin on Jul 12th, 2003, 11:22pm I farted ...twice... on the tough chick's smurf pillow and she cried like a baby..... Hey...she duct taped my chest and then later riiiiippppped it off...and then sprayed shavin cream on Adam and moi. Two clusterheads on their honeymoon. The house that pain built. Guten Griefen den |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Marc on Jul 13th, 2003, 12:35am Uh oh..... Seems like Roxy and I are in the minority. Maybe the rest of you guys need an anger management seminar ;D But, it still worries me. Rox is a woman, I'm a man and we agree. - Am I too in touch with my feminine side? ;) - Shall I expect to grow boobs soon? ;D I think I'll head off to the tractor pulls....... Marc |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Big_Dan on Jul 13th, 2003, 2:03am ... I've broken a couple of cordless phones, dented my truck with my fists, dinted a garage door with my fists (got a cast with that one), and damn near drove my head through a wall.... 'cept there just happened to be a stud where I hit it. Gawdamn that hurt... afterwards... lol -Big Dan |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by BobG on Jul 13th, 2003, 3:26am I don't understand how a headache could send someone into a rage. I sometimes get bad headaches. A couple migraine strength aspirin, a short nap and bingo! Headache gone. ::) |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by RevDeFord on Jul 13th, 2003, 7:32am The only thing I can think of is that my body releases adrenaline to help combat the pain. I seem to be extremely strong when I get one of these things. Maybe that is where the whole premise for the incredible hulk came from. I have been told I look like Lou Farigno.....without the big nose of course. ;D |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by resti on Jul 13th, 2003, 8:13am I could kill anyone I see or hear. If I had a gun I would shoot the neighbors screaming and partying all night outside my window. i can really understand murder during a cycle |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by MarkHW on Jul 13th, 2003, 8:41am I'm chronic. I'm usualy very calm and caring... But when I'm getting hit especially hard I notice that I will go into a rage for like 30 - 60 minutes off & on that is totally unexplainable. It's like someone threw a switch and turned on some kind of anger button. Then poof it disappears as quickly as it came. Mark |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by cootie on Jul 13th, 2003, 9:47pm Boy I hope you all don't get hit all at once at the convention and sumone sudjest a game of 'lets beat up the supporter'......jus jokein.....jus jokein....yipes ! ;)Brad gets impossible to deal with durein his cycle, extremly snappy and disagreeable and and wants ta argue with everyone and about everything....no exceptions ! Thing is....that makes me pissed off so I get short fused and wanna twist off baby dolls heads or kick puppies myself durein that time frame. What goes around comes around Pam ::) |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by juvy on Jul 14th, 2003, 5:48am on 07/13/03 at 03:26:53, BobG wrote:
BobG don't make me slap you ;D ~juvy |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by juvy on Jul 14th, 2003, 5:53am hmm question does Juvy go into a rage during bad hits? umm yes. There are two plates left in my house and a couple of glasses. My pillows are permantly deformed and the hinges of my doors need to be replaced. Thing is I finally learned to control my "temper" when i was 17. I once threw a knife at my favorite brother for saying Hi. I missed but I wonder what would have happened if he wasn't someone i liked so much. I can control my temper these days except when i'm in a bad "cycle". Then the best thing is leave me alone and don't open the door unless you want to get hit by flying objects. ~Juvy |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by Patrick_A on Jul 14th, 2003, 8:06am I can't say i feel rage. I just dont want to be bothered. If i am in public, I am miserable because i have nowhere to hide. Too embarrassed to let someone watch me pull my hair and pound my temple. I agree with Marc. I am just too caught up in the moment to have time for rage. Patrick |
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Title: [url][/url]Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by ozzman on Jul 14th, 2003, 8:55am Thaaaank You! I just printed the whole topic to showed to my wifey. Great supporter but sometimes she doesn't understand why am I in a bad mood. I try not to break things in front of my kids, but that is easily done since I don't let them see me in that kind of pain to begin with (they might get to scared). BTW Smfaison: Quote:
Prednisone is a Corticosteroid, not anabolic, BIG difference. http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/pred_wcp.htm Ozzy |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by vig on Jul 14th, 2003, 5:54pm Perhaps being in cycle is a bad time to catch up on the Sopranos. -p |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by oringkid on Jul 14th, 2003, 6:15pm I would be willing to bet, that many more males get the rage thing than females... and many more females get the crying thing... Both are products of extreme frustration and, of course pain. I tend to cry when I am frustrated and angry (but I gotta be REALLY, REALLY frustrated and angry) Which, of course makes me MORE angry and frustrated and then embarrassed! Men tend to want to strike out at things when they are frustrated and angry... Not to say that we don't switch roles at times...LOL! And that is the conclusion of todays laymans pyschology class for today... Tomorrow, be prepared to answer the essay question, "Who's Ego Is Worse, Male or Female" Sherry ;D |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by juvy on Jul 15th, 2003, 1:58am [quote author=oringkid ] Tomorrow, be prepared to answer the essay question, "Who's Ego Is Worse, Male or Female" Sherry ;D[/quote] That would be the male ego cuz when females think they're right, they usually are...Men think they're always right and usually never are. ~Juvy |
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Title: Re: Cluster headaches and rage Post by hdbngr on Jul 15th, 2003, 8:36am Long fuse, but when I lose it, I really lose it. Think nuclear war. Really bad pain makes even the most caring, supportive person seem like an irritating, bothersome jerk. Solution: Avoid all loved ones. When the pain is at an 8 or above, I hear songs (that I initially hated) play over and over in my head. It's like I can't get rid of the tune or the lyrics. The strange part is I may not have heard this song for YEARS, yet my brain can still play the awful lyrics. NEVER music I like. Last night's number was "Jungle Love" (O be O be oh) Yuck. |
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