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Title: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 23rd, 2003, 8:38pm
Evening board,

It is been said that the cause of CH comes from the Hypothalamus gland in the brain. I am sure we have all heard that. The Hypothalamus also is in control of body temperature, the retina in the eye and other sources that, may effect our Condition. Please see the following link for more information:

http://thalamus.wustl.edu/course/hypoANS.html

The reason I put this post up here is for this reason:

As I look at the Clusterheads web page that Bob P has put up, I see a bunch of either in shape people or people with high metabolisms. In other words I don't see any overweight people in this group.  I am sure some of us feel we have a few extra pounds, but I don't see it in the pictures.

My point is this... do a large percent of CH sufferers have a high metabolism (controlled by the Hypothalamus)? If so, in order to break down foods faster does the hypothalamus excrete a toxin into the blood stream that may have some sort of build up in the persons Eye/Temple region? Or because the foods are being broken down so quickly, is there something missing from our digestive system that our brain/nervous system needs to not have CHs.

Just my thoughts and research for the day. I am not a doctor in any way, just turning over another stone. Any thoughts from the board? (Sorry so long winded)

Bryan

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Drk^Angel on Jun 23rd, 2003, 8:50pm
Sorry... Not all CH'ers are thin, or have high metabolisms.  I'm so overwieght, my bathroom scale cries when it sees me coming.

PFDAN............................ Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Linda_Howell on Jun 23rd, 2003, 8:51pm

Bryan,

   Great question and one that I don't believe has ever been mentioned here before.  I, personally have a high metabolism, but not sure how to answer the other questions.  Maybe Ueli may have some thoughts.

  LindaH

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Mark C on Jun 23rd, 2003, 9:22pm

Hmmmmmmm...
Poll Time?
6" 2" @ 195 lbs

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by brain_cramps on Jun 23rd, 2003, 9:35pm
really high metabolism --- can eat 2 meals or 6 meals a day and not gain or lose a pound

5'11" - 160 lbs

grant

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 23rd, 2003, 9:51pm
5'10"
160 lbs

(I'm just a little guy)  ;D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Charlie on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:08pm
6' 2"- 212 lbs.

We are a tall bunch so far

Charlie

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by andy on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:18pm
6`4"  190 lbs. high metabolism            .............andy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:23pm
Ok, weight and height helps, but please also add whether you think you may have a high metabolism... Thanks guys! :)  :D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by eyes_afire on Jun 23rd, 2003, 10:48pm
I've always had 'high' metabolism.  Only way I can gain weight is if I lift weights and it goes on as muscle.  Back in the days of drinking I could usually 'out drink' most of my friends also.   ::)

--- Steve, one of many...


Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Jun 23rd, 2003, 11:35pm
LOW LOW Metabolism...used to be higher before the damn kid was born.  I'm not saying my wieght but I'm about 40# overwieght

Short, 5 foot

AND...I'm female (extremely classic episodic clusterhead)
Mast

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by catlind on Jun 24th, 2003, 6:57am
If you think I'm posting my weight for all the world to see you're nuts!  ;D

I used to have a very high metabolism, and had a hard time keeping weight on, then I had a baby, and had surgery, and my metabolism was cut out :)

I'm currently about 50lbs overweight, so I dunno if it's the actual metabolism, or if it might be something to do with the change in metabolism.

Just my 2cents worth.

Cat

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cbolony on Jun 24th, 2003, 7:43am
6'3"
240

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by BruceD on Jun 24th, 2003, 7:43am
6'1" and about 165 lbs with a high metabolism.

Also, just a side question but how would everyone classify their temperature sensitivity. Me? I'm like a siberian husky ... love the cold weather.

BruceD

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Donna on Jun 24th, 2003, 8:13am
5' 2", 118 lbs.  Very high met.  Cold makes me ache.  Normal temp is 97.6.  Blonde.  Green eyes.  Course complexion.  Not ditzy.  Even temperment.  Analytical mind.......sounds like most of the clusterheads I've met.  For Christmas I want a list of available bacholors.

I think I covered it all.

Now my theory as to why we have cluster headaches....

for those of you who have read it before, just click to somewhere else now.

It's hormomes..............all hormones.  Just too darned much or too little testosterone.

I've lost 4 pregnancies to this problem.  Had to have injections throughout my other pregnancies to be successful.

My cluster headaches stopped the day I had my hysterectomy.

I was offered hormone therapy.  Most women use the combo of estrogen and progesterone.  I could only use the estrogen......the progesterone gave me headaches.

Where does the release of hormones originate?  Yep...the hypothalamus.

It would take a very simple medical test to see where our  levels are.

Maybe it's not JUST hormones.......maybe the ol' hypo gives us an overdose or underdose of everything it controls.

I guess we're back to square 1.

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Big_Dan on Jun 24th, 2003, 9:09am
... 6'3"... and big... read the name....

... hell, half of the NFL's linemen don't have shit on me... ;D

-BIG Dan

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Marijke on Jun 24th, 2003, 9:17am
5ft 2, 110 lbs. For Europeans: http://www.processassociates.com/process/convert/cf_all.htm for conversion factors

dont think I have a high metabolism, but I do smoke (hey! I'm a clusterhead!)

Marijke

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by nancyann on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:09am
5'5"  Not just slightly overweight since my daughter was born.  Hormone Hell!

It's been good reading this.  After seeing all of the pictures I thought I was the only overweight clusterhead!!

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Roxy on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:18am
Mediocre height, mediocre weight, mediocre metabolism.

I am living a life of mediocrity......... ;D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by oringkid on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:32am
5' 4" 115lbs.  Used to have a high metabolism, but it slowed down once I hit 30.  At one point I got up to 140lbs and had to diet and exercise to get it off.  Now I try to be somewhat careful.

I wonder about Donna's theory.  Of the ladies here, how many of you feel you might have a bit more testosterone than most other women?  I don't mean you have to grow beards or look manly, but do you tend to be more "tom boyish"?

I'm flat chested and narrow hipped and have always gotten along better with boys than girls.  Not as squeemish as most girls (Except when it comes to spiders and by the way Eyesafire....we need to talk!! LOL)  I like to work on cars and build stuff.  Like to work with my hands.  Have a very analytical mind and love dirty jokes.  Used to be pretty athletic (was a ballet dancer for 15 years).  Very seldom cry (cept when I'm really angry and that just pisses me off to no end!)  Have a very high tolerance to pain.

Have blue eyes, my factory equipped hair color was blah brown although when young I was blonde and now I'm grey (at least at the roots LOL)  I am VERY nearsighted.
And I have tiny fingernails.  (I know that sounds weird, they don't look weird, they look perfectly fine and natural but if you compare mine with others they don't cover the same amount of space as others.  And glue on fake nails are too big. Betcha looked at yours didn't ya? LOL)

Ok, I think that covers it.

Sherry

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:37am
Ahh well. Another stone turned and another stone not the answer.  :D

Thank you all for playing along. I will continue to do more and more research and ask more and more questions until you all are sick to death of me.

Donna, thanks for the hormone input. I'll do some reading on that as well.

Again, if you all would like to keep posting to this thread for further "research" purposes, please go ahead. Otherwise, I can see that High Metabolism is prolly not a cause of clusters. <sigh> One of these days we'll get it.

Have a great PFDAN everyone!

Bryan - the researching fool

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Donna on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:45am
Wow, Sherry, you and I do have a lot in common.  This is interesting and I hope we hear from other women.




Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Bob P on Jun 24th, 2003, 10:47am
6'4", 225 lbs. (and I've lost 17 lbs. in the past 2 months).

Average metabolism.

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by suzy617 on Jun 24th, 2003, 11:32am
Well I was the biggest tomboy around town growing up. I am also on hormone therapy but doesnt seem to make a difference with the CH.
One other thing... I dont have a hairy chest.  ;D

suzy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 24th, 2003, 11:41am
Sherry,

Sorry, I didn't see your post when I posted my last response. Oops.  :( I think we may have been typing at the same time.  :D

Cool  - Keep discussing.  I wanna hear more results of the "tom-boy" discussion :)

Bryan

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Jackie on Jun 24th, 2003, 11:44am
Blake is 6'4" @ 200 lbs.
Recently developed a little belly....due to the prednisone's need to be fed 50 lbs. of food per day... ;)

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by nancyann on Jun 24th, 2003, 11:59am


Quote:
Recently developed a little belly....due to the prednisone's need to be fed 50 lbs. of food per day...


Sounds like my moms lab. (he he)  Sorry just kidding.

About the Tom boy thing.  

I too have always been self sufficient.  Changing my own tires and stuff.  My Testosterone levels run a little on the high side although I must admit on the chest side I have been far from flat ( not always a blessing) If I let go on the tweezing I can get to look like a large chested mama with a five o'clock shadow ;D ;D ;D.

Really though.  I wouldn't be surprised if this hormone thing does have something to do with it.  It is something to think about.

Nancy


Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Mark C on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:28pm
If Donna is right will I grow Boobs with the new HRT therapy? Hmmmmmm.......that might not be so bad.......hell I would never leave the house. And have you noticed your own farts don't smell so bad? Hmmmm.....

Home-alone-Mark  ;D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Mastifflvr28 on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:30pm
Tomboy all the way.

Dang Donna...I WANNA hysterectomy!!

I'm also on DepoPorvera for birth control, it's testosterone mostly (I think)...
BUT...I'm also over a month overdue for my cycle.

Won't catch me in Pink Mast

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Roxy on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:41pm
I run a ranch, so you can say I'm a little on the tomboy side.  Have actually been mistaken for a boy once in Wal-Mart while trying to buy a shotgun...... ;D  Not really built like a boy, so I guess the large chest size, nail polish and earring didn't get noticed....... ;)

I'm on HRT, and have been since an emergency hysterectomy at 32.  Don't know if the HRT makes a difference with the ch's, been on the meds a lot longer than I've had ch.  Tried to go off the HRT not too long ago......my family refilled my prescription, wrapped it in pretty paper, and gave it back to me...... ;D

My father always wanted a boy.....I'm not really sure he even noticed I was female when I was giving birth....LOL

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by vig on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:43pm
cr@p, I'm the only dwarf male in the room.
I must've gotten in the wrong line....

5'5" 170 - no fat,

high metabolism, damn near hyperactive.

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by catlind on Jun 24th, 2003, 12:54pm
Hmm interesting possibilities there.  I'm definitely the tom boy type.  Jeans and sweats all the way.  Shocks everyone whenever they see me in a dress.

Was also very athletic (gymnastics coach and competitor, life guard and swimming instructor - no Don, I won't save you when they throw you in the river ;) ) until a car accident put an end to that.

Hysterectomy here too, but as an effort to stop the headaches.  HRT lasted all of 2 months and I told them to shove it sideways, caused migraines YUCK.

Not sure what my hormone levels are, but then again, most things about me and modern medicine tends to be a mystery...one of those 'interesting' patients  ::)

Wonder if females get CH because the hypothalamus produces too much testosterone and males get it because it doesn't produce enough?

Cat

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by stevegeebe on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:09pm
5'-10", 190 lbs.  High metabolism.  Wife insists my tempreture runs higher than normal.  Good for her in winter...Bad for me in Summer.  Lots of Summer down here.

Steve G

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Donna on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:10pm
Cat, that last paragraph prompts me to pose a question that I've been saving for a couple of years, but the time has finally arrived.

Nevermind.  I just don't have the bells to ask about libidos.

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:38pm
Wes is 5'10" and weighs about 182lb's


on 06/24/03 at 10:32:05, oringkid wrote:
Of the ladies here, how many of you feel you might have a bit more testosterone than most other women?  
Sherry


You can tell if you have more testosterone than other women, look at your hands and see if your third finger is as long or longer than your index finger...bet it's longer....this is an indication that you have more testosterone in your body than other women...it also means you can probably run quite fast...this is not a joke, this is being scientifically looked into as we speak.... :)

just for the record....I like testosterone...  ;D

Cat...are there really men out there that DON'T produce enough... ???

Cathy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by vig on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:40pm
Wonder if females get CH because the hypothalamus produces too much testosterone and males get it because it doesn't produce enough?


I can only speak for myself, but...no shortage here.
-p

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by catlind on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:46pm
Cathy, you aren't serious about the middle finger thing are you??  Yes in fact my middle finger is much longer than my index finger, by about a half inch, I thought everyone's was.  As for running, I try to avoid it if I can :)

Cat

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by CathiP on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:51pm
Hey, Cathy-
Straw pole here at work, cause you have me looking like this ???and all the wimmenfolk have the longer 3rd finger.........honey, are you suurre that's not toes? I am constantly teased about my 2nd toe, which is considerably longer than the rest of my toes.....I've explained to Gil, it is a sign of intelligence & creativity......
Ah well, different strokes.....ORRR, perhaps thats how you tell the Yanks from the Brits??? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just sign me Miss Double G

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:54pm
If testosterone=short temper and lots of energy... no shortage here either   ;D ;D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 1:58pm


Cat...that was a serious post it is true saw it on a documentary over here about 6 months ago....they were checking out womens fingers...and those that had longer 3rd fingers than their index fingers also had more testosterone....  ::)

Pudd....darling...you don't have toes, you only have claws... ;D

Cathy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Margi on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:12pm
Mike is between 5'7" and 5'8" and weighs about 160 lbs.  That boy can eat a forty dollar box of chocolates in one sitting and not gain a single pound!  I pork up just by looking at the shiny foil wrappers!  It's SO not fair.

Donna - c'mon - spill it, girl - you know you want to.  Davide and Sten kind of broached this subject in Vancouver...the libido thing.  Riccky posted recently that it's a proven fact now that it's in the higher range of normal in youse folk.

Cathy - c'mon.  EVERYONE's third finger is longer than their second finger!  How else could we flip anyone the bird? Wouldn't we just be pointing if it were the same length? Aren't babies fingers are like that too - testosterone hasn't kicked in at that stage of development has it??  Was this a pay per view channel you were watching, Missus?   :o

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:20pm


Margi, are you including your thumb there..?? your longest finger should be your second one...and yes I would imagine it is present at birth....the only pay to view channels I watch are the ones to boost Wes's testosterone... ;D

Cathy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by jonny on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:26pm

on 06/24/03 at 13:58:33, cathy wrote:
those that had longer 3rd fingers than their index fingers also had more testosterone....  ::)


Hmmmmmm...;D

...................................jonny

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:28pm

btw...if you have fat fingers then you need to diet...lmao

Cathy  ;D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Donna on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:30pm
See?  See?  Haven't I been saying this is a hormone thing for years?  Nobody wanted to touch this topic because (probably) they were afraid theirs was too low for men and too high for women.

Well, I was a tom boy and I was skinny until I hit 42, up from 98 to 118, and I've always preferred to work with men because I understood their sense of humor and such.  And guess what.......the women on this board don't sound petty like the women I've worked with.
 
Now Ueli's going to come along and blow my theory out of the water.  We all can dream of a cure, can't we?

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Margi on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:32pm
ohhhhhhhhhh, Cathy - thanks for clearing that up.   I used to teach piano - we did used to number the fingers and Thumb WAS #1.   ::)

You scared the crap outta me, woman - here I was figuring I was going to have to start leaving the toilet seat up or something.  I'm happy to report that my third finger is,  indeed, MUCH shorter than my 2nd finger AND my 1st finger and they're all skinny. :)  So, no testosterone abundance here.  (Sorry to disappoint anyone.)




Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:39pm

Margi...will you pleassssssssseee read the post properly... ::) if your 3rd finger is longer than your 1st finger, not your 2nd finger...wow if your third finger had been longer than your 2nd finger then you'd be having to pick me up off the floor, and lifting the seat up..oh sheezzee now im getting myself in a mucking fuddle... ;D

btw...what does flip the bird mean... ???

Cathy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Margi on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:45pm
LMAO yes, dear, I do indeed get it now.  I understand that your RING finger (finger number 3) should be shorter than your POINTER finger (finger number 1) if your testosterone is in balance.  Never EVER should finger number 3 be longer than finger #2 (the f-off finger) because then you'd be swinging from trees and eating bananas all the time.  

Um, flip the bird - here i thought that was a British expression.  You know...  waving at people, only using just Finger #2 (which until today I thought was Finger #3), and all the other fingers are NOT included in the wave.  

oh hell - what was the question?   LOL

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:55pm

Margi...thankyou for the explanation.. :-[  could you also clarify for me what 'f-off' finger means... ;D

Cathy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Georgia on Jun 24th, 2003, 2:57pm
So Margi - Is your ring finger really shorter than your index finger? I'm beginning to worry that I am even more of a freak.

And my 2nd toe is WAY longer than my first toe. Does that matter?

Oh god. I am really nervous now.




Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by JDH on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:02pm
Interesting post Bryan,
I'm 6"3"/195 and I seem to have a pretty high metabolism.

Jim

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Margi on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:02pm
Yes, Georgzilla, my ring finger is indeed shorter than my pointer finger.  But....DAHLING....I am not a clusterhead and thus be the point of this here conversation.  RIGHT?  :)

I dunno about that hammer toe thing you got going on though, honey - that's just freakin scary, man.  Does your HUSBAND (oh too cool to be able to finally say that!) know?

And, Cathy?  as to the "f-off".  Say it with me, phonetically.   That's it....."EFF....OFF".  Funny you don't LOOK blond in your picture....

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Live4Fun on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:03pm
You all are cracking me up! This is great! *ROFLMAO*

And we are having a good discussion, all in one! I love this place  ;D  :D ;D

B

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by cathy on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:08pm

on 06/24/03 at 15:02:28, Margi wrote:
And, Cathy?  as to the "f-off".  Say it with me, phonetically.   That's it....."EFF....OFF".  Funny you don't LOOK blond in your picture....


Margi...lucky for you I have to Eff off now... btw...had to look up phonetically.. ;D

Cathy

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by catlind on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:08pm
Ok, now I'm worried....

My ring finger is the same length (if not a hair longer) than my index finger  :-/

My 2nd toe (next to my big toe) is also the same length as my big toe.

Does this really have anything to do with CH??

Really worried Cat....

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Donna on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:13pm
OMG........my ring fingers are WAY longer than the pointers!  A good 1/2 ".  And my F"off finger is way longer than my second toe...what does that mean?  I mean considering  my "thumb" toe is #1.

How about boobs?  Is one larger than the other?

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by BruceD on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:14pm
OK, now let’s see if I have this right. Clusterheads have a higher incidence of frequent sexual urges and their ring finger is longer than their index finger on their right hand. Except in the case where the headaches primarily occur on the right side, in which case they are left-brained and the ring finger is longer than their index finger on their left hand. Of course both of these characteristics are null and void if the second toe is longest (on either foot) except in the case of overactive libido combined with an overriding urge to kill anyone who wants to take their smokes or oxygen. Clusterheads also have a higher than expected metabolism and have been known to ingest huge quantities of chocolate without batting an eye. Except for those with Horner’s syndrome in which case the eye is automatically batted. Also, the incidence of cluster headaches is more pronounced in those whose middle toe (on either foot) is longer than their 3rd (ring finger) of the hand opposite the side in which the headaches occur, except on Thursdays and especially in leap years.

That about right?  ;D

BruceD

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Georgia on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:15pm
OK - I think we need a new thread about finger and toe lengths for the women ch'ers. This is just too weird. All I can say is...THANK GOD I'M A MARRIED WOMAN! And yes, Margi, Dennis knows what a freak I am. (the Georgzilla comment was just way out of line, btw ;) )

There is a name for the 2nd toe being longer than the first. I can't remember it right now.

I am off to go start that new thread.

Freaks.

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by vig on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:15pm
it means we all sign up for Jim Rose's Circus Sideshow.
I have one ear lobe longer than the other.
-p

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Linda_Howell on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:33pm

      5'1"

       104 pds.

        high metabolism.

         hate OKRA.   oh wait...you didn't ask for our
                              tastes in food.


             LindaH

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Roxy on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:35pm
Good grief.....I go away to run errands, and now I'm back here measuring toes and fingers.  

Donna.....I refuse to measure my boobs for differences in size....... ;D

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Margi on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:35pm

on 06/24/03 at 15:15:00, Georgia wrote:
OK - I think we need a new thread about finger and toe lengths for the women ch'ers.

There is a name for the 2nd toe being longer than the first. I can't remember it right now.


Cool.  are we going to do a foot size survey too?  I've heard that's indickative uh...telling, as well.  Oh wait, never mind - we went there before.  It wasn't pretty.

So, let's address the toe thing then.  You're right, 'Zilla, (zat better?) it's called O'Connortoes.  I've heard there's no cure.  It's sad, really.  (it's called Hammer Toes isn't it?)  Don't ask Donna though - she's more worried about the differences in her pecs.  Well, that and she's freaking herself out by comparing her finger length to her toe length now.  ::)  You Floridians really need to answer the poor woman about starting up that OUCH chapter there.  She's just got WAY too much time on her hands right now.

psst, hey Cat - while you've got your shoes off there....did you know that your foot is EXACTLY the same length as the distance from your wrist to the inside of your elbow?  See?  I'm right, aren't I?  And, uh, that's NOT a clusterhead thing like these freakish fingers and toes are.  It's true for everyone.  I just got Cathy to take HER shoes off and try to prove me wrong.  She got her foot caught in something though, so the experiment failed miserably.



Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by catlind on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:39pm
Margi, it's summertime, what are shoes? hehe.

As for the foot/wrist/elbow thing, I did know about that, but what I want to know is if it's measuring from the last crease at the heel of your hand, to the crease in your elbow.

If it is, I got problems LOL  my foot is longer.

Cat

Georgia, can I move in with you and Den to partake in O'Conneritis?


Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Margi on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:44pm
yes, Cat - those are the correct starting/ending points as you mention.  It's SUPPOSED to work.  That's ok though, Flipper, we still love ya.

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by catlind on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:47pm
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!  Flipper is better'n Flash ;)  :-X


Actually the measurement used to be exact, until I had children.  With each child, my shoe size increased.  Go figure  ::)

At least I was semi-normal once upon a time LOL

Cat

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Roxy on Jun 24th, 2003, 3:52pm
Margi....I'm impressed.  That actually works!!  Gonna have to check out flipper's feet at the convention..... ;) ;D

What would it mean if your foot is shorter, other than the fact that you have monkey arms!


Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by jimbo on Jun 24th, 2003, 5:21pm
My third leg is shorter than the other two, WTF? ;D

5'11 225 lbs. and my ring fingers are longer than my index fingers. Thanks alot! Now I'm gonna be looking at everyones fingers.

Seeya,

Jimbo

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by jonny on Jun 24th, 2003, 5:39pm

on 06/24/03 at 17:21:04, jimbo wrote:
My third leg is shorter than the other two, WTF? ;D


Man!, im sorry dude.....theres nothing like a human kickstand.....LOL ;D

...................................jonny

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by 9erfan on Jun 24th, 2003, 7:51pm
There's no way I'd post my stats on this board!  ;D  But, I can tell from Linda's stats that when I meet her in October, I'll be able to pick her up and carry her over my shoulder!  I guess I have too much testosterone (or however the hell you spell it!)!  ;D

My hands are big, my feet are big,....i'm just screwed up!  what was the question again?
I do know that my boobs are different sizes....one is big, the other is bigger.  :o

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by CJohnson on Jun 25th, 2003, 8:17am
6'3" - 225 lbs
Metabolism used to be very fast, but is slowing as I get older. I still eat what I want, when I want, though.

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by oringkid on Jun 25th, 2003, 1:11pm
Ok, ya got me all screwed up on the finger length thing.  If I hold my hand one way, the ring finger is longer, if I hold it another way they are the same size.  My toes are perfect!  LOL!  An old boyfriend (who had OConneritus) said it looked like someone had cut my toes off, they are so perfectly aligned!  He thought it was weird LOL!!

I always thought the long 2nd toe thing was indicative of creativity (thus my problems with creativity)

uh oh, just noticed.  The LEFT ring finger is longer than the right one AND the left index.

So now, I'm.....

Left brained
Right handed
Left Ch'ed
Left longer index fingered
Left in the sun too long

Sherry

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by misserin on Jun 25th, 2003, 4:07pm
Hi Bryan
my name is Erin and I'm new to the website.
since I am new to the website and even to the discovery of cluster headache, I have all the drive and fire to find an explanation for all of this mess!
I notice a flare up of the pain after I eat.
Does this make sense?
I notice it worse after some foods (namely wheat or soy or poorly chosen foods like fast or processed-which I try to avoid during an episode)
I thought maybe I had a food allergy at first.
I kicked off my current episode after a hike up buck mtn in the tetons and ingestion of peanut butter and jelly on wheat and a soy-laden energy bar (STUPID)
I have a VERY fast metabolism that my friends hate me for and I love to eat.
I am also rather tom-boyish, traveling to the mountains or rock climbing excursions on weekends (which can be a doozy with these episodes) but I've got to keep livin'!!!
Whew, I wrote a novel.
I would love to discuss your theories further. I am visiting a head-dr tuesday and will bring many of these topics I see here up to her.

misserin

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by OneEyeBlind on Jun 25th, 2003, 6:13pm
I have to say, after reading this entire thread ... I am laughing so hard I am crying ... and can't see a stinking thing to measure nothing !!!!!!!!!

Title: cuz Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Ree on Jun 26th, 2003, 11:27am
DAVE AND ME ARE SMIDGETS... I'm 5' and he is 5'8  but just the right size for me........ I used to think he was tall till we got into a line at the movies for popcorn....... then I looked at him and said "Dave we are midgets".  I think that was the moment he fell in love with me... (probably cuz there was no one elseshort enough for him) sucks being short for me......Not enough places to keep the weight...... so I have to watch it all the time... Dave has a wicked (MA word) high metabolism... he is like on fast forward all the time... Alarm goes off Dave is standing up... talking........... he never stops........... enough info?  ree

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by MarkHW on Jun 26th, 2003, 3:28pm
6'2" 210 lbs.  Male

I have a slow metabolism.... in fact I think it's in a coma.
I don't eat a lot because I can put on weight by looking at food.

I was in the pain mgmt clinic yesterday to get an infusion and they said my respiration and heart rate are extremely low....  The nurse was concerned because my pulse dropped below 50.....

Always been like that....
Mark

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by MarkHW on Jun 26th, 2003, 3:28pm
6'2" 210 lbs.  Male

I have a slow metabolism.... in fact I think it's in a coma.
I don't eat a lot because I can put on weight by looking at food.

I was in the pain mgmt clinic yesterday to get an infusion and they said my respiration and heart rate are extremely low....  The nurse was concerned because my pulse dropped below 50.....

Always been like that....
Mark

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by maria9 on Jun 26th, 2003, 8:05pm
Here is another one for you guys, applies whether you are a CH'er or not ( by the way my ring finger is longer than my pointer on my dominant hand, OMG!):  put your two thumbs together, notice which nail is wider in width, your dominant hand will have the wider nail base.  Now you have heard everything.  Maria

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by pablo on Jun 26th, 2003, 8:39pm
5'8"/140lbs (on a good day!) - the most I've weighed was 149 when I was lifting; two kiddies no time to workout with weights (well, that's my excuse! :)

Interesting that a lot of people seem to have a high metabolism.  I do as well.  Hmmm ...

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Robert on Jun 26th, 2003, 10:50pm
6' 3" 195lbs Very high met. 49yrs old

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Callico_Kid on Jun 26th, 2003, 11:04pm
5ft 8in, 185lbs.  Low body fat.

Had a high met. until I contracted diabetes four years ago and gained 50lbs.  Found out about the diabetes and took the weight back off, but met is WAY slower.  Age make a difference?  Went chronic March of last year.

Hormones?  I know my testosterone is a lot lower than it was before diabetes.

Interesting thread.
jc

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by DaveHar on Jun 27th, 2003, 7:14am
I'm 5' 9" tall and 135lbs I have a high met and can not get over 145lbs. If I go back on a strict work out  and put on muscle mass I can get to 150 or 160 tops.

Dave

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Ride_the_Lightning on Jun 27th, 2003, 7:32am
1 meter 80   77 kilos
(sorry i am european)

Title: Re: Hypothalamus, Weight, and Clusters
Post by Jewel on Jun 27th, 2003, 7:36am
If I had a high metabolism, I wouldn't be anorexic.   ;D



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