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Title: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by oringkid on Jun 12th, 2003, 6:58pm On the surface, the answer is simple. I have clusterheadaches...this board has other people who also have clusterheadaches. It gives me comfort to know that I am not alone in dealing with this affliction. I have also met many people who I admire and respect and feel that I am the better for having met them. I have seen an amazing and enviable amount of compassion and caring on this board. But... I gotta tell ya, there is not a week that goes by that I don't feel anger, sadness, depression and an almost overwhelming desire to never, ever log onto this board again. Could there be a correlation between CH and immaturity? Perhaps so, because, right now, I feel VERY immature! I feel like saying....POO POO on all of you! I'm sick of the crap. ON BOTH SIDES!! Not only the unwarranted offensiveness by a few...NOT JUST ONE! But also the holier than thou attitude of many, which in all fairness must include me at times, and many of you will feel that this is one of those times. So be it. I don't want this to be a sterile, meds and research only board. If it was, I would not come here. But damnit people!! Aren't we all supposed to be grown-ups? WHO GIVES A CRAP WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK OF YOU AS LONG AS YOU ARE TRUE TO YOURSELF AND HONEST AND TRY TO BE AS GOOD A PERSON AS YOU CAN! I started the recent shit with Jonny. I don't like the "n" word. I was brought up to be non-prejudiced and therefore I find words with a prejudiced background to be offensive. I was hoping that a sincere quiet request would work with someone that I have grown to respect. It did not. I then, did not know, or have the balls to figure out, what to do. Ted, someone else who I have come to like very much and respect, basically had the balls to do what I couldn't.... He didn't do it at my request either. Just saw the post and did what he felt was right. I very much hope that the title of that post, which you, Jonny, retitled due to many requests, does not reflect your personal views. I was taught, by my parents who grew up in an era of prejudice and racism, to NOT be influenced by prejudice and racism. I was taught that ALL persons are human beings. People should never be judged by their color, or religion or their customs. We all have the same organs, the same color blood, the same number of arms, legs, eyes ears, etc. We are the same species. We should learn to love, care, help, and understand each other. I have tried to adhere to their teachings and try very hard not to let prejudice adversely influence my daughters thinking. The only way we can defeat it is to teach our children that it is wrong. Too many children still grow up hating and don't even know why! When we fight amongst ourselves, we are only defeating ourselves. When we continue to allow ourselves to dwell in ignorance, we doom ourselves as a species. And that is a terrible shame, as we have so much potential. I fully expect that I will lose any friends that I may have made on this board now. But, I felt that I needed to say this. I will continue to work for OUCH, if I am still allowed. I'm sorry if I have offended anyone, or hurt anyone, or if anyone feels that they have been slighted or betrayed...But I am not sorry for having said what I felt I needed to say. Sincerely Sherry |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by catlind on Jun 12th, 2003, 7:09pm on 06/12/03 at 18:58:35, oringkid wrote:
Why on earth would you lose the friends that you have made on this board? Everyone is entitled to their views and opinions, and entitled to disagree with others. I personally do not base my friendships on whether I fully agree with what/who a person is. I am not blind to faults, but I base my friendships on the whole person. This is one person who has considered you to be a friend Sherry, and this is one friend who you would not lose over a simple message stating your point of view. Cat |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by jonny on Jun 12th, 2003, 7:38pm on 06/12/03 at 18:58:35, oringkid wrote:
If anyone thinks Ted had to do with anything needs to get a brain. I changed that title in respect for Den and his kid and if you dont STFU ill change it back, try me!!! ..............................jonny |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by don on Jun 12th, 2003, 7:51pm You will now be relegated to scrapping the barnacles from the OUCH Yacht. If I ever find the fucking thing! |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by TomM on Jun 12th, 2003, 7:58pm Sherry--stick around. You have a lot to offer. Don--I got a new power washer that'll take those puppies off in a flash. :D Tom |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Not4Hire on Jun 12th, 2003, 7:58pm ok jonny... i'm callin yer bluff....change it back and show your TRUE COLORS...or leave it as IS ....and show your *really*TRUE COLORS... you were wrong and ya know it... it don't matter WHO or why.... ya changed it for a REASON..... what was it?.... |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by 9erfan on Jun 12th, 2003, 8:01pm Sherry, We need you on this board. You're not going anywhere! ;D Virginia |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by paul_b on Jun 12th, 2003, 8:43pm Jonny be good. Sherry, you is "gooder" for reaching out as you have. I too was surprised by the original title of the post. J didn't need it to get my attention. His posts are always interesting if not pervocative. |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Edna on Jun 12th, 2003, 8:57pm Sherry, hope not to offend you, but I'll say it anyhow... "IF" you leave, you're only letting the stupidity of prejudice win anyway............as someone very wise says.......take what you need and leave the rest. Some have agreed with your opinion, some have not and others have chosen to remain silent on the matter...to each his own. You're respected here and give of yourself, and that is appreciated by many. So to answer your question...."why do I put myself through this shit".......because, you need us as much as we need you! THERE pf wishes, EDNA |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Margi on Jun 12th, 2003, 9:28pm Sherry - I completely respect your views and opinion here. And...Cat's right - if you lose friends from this? They weren't your friends to begin with. I, for one, am really enjoying getting to know you. Especially our little chat about pillows the other day. ;) I would love the honour of being called your friend. And, you're absolutely right - Ted has big gonads - so does Den. I'm glad they called penalty on something they found offensive. Sorry, Jonny, but song title or not - it's still a poor taste kind of thing. It's totally up to you, Sherry, whether you leave or stay - but we will be much the poorer if you choose the former. Stick around O-ring Kid - I still need to find out how that pillow thing turns out. p.s. clusterheadaches.com was created for ALL cluster folk. remember that Dr. Seuss poem "The Sneetches" ? Don't let it come to that. |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Roxy on Jun 12th, 2003, 10:32pm Hey girl, You can't leave.....I'm taking pictures for you....remember? You are a vital part of the board, and you need to stay. IMHO there is still much caring and support on the board, even between those whose opinions are different. Like everyone has always said...it's a family. There may be squabbles and bickering....but if anyone here was in serious trouble and needed help.......I think everyone would be tripping over themselves to help. Sometimes I may disagree with people.....it doesn't mean I care any less...... Stick around.... Tracey |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Charlie on Jun 12th, 2003, 10:54pm We do need you Sherry. I know what you mean but as our bizarre friend says......take what ya need and leave the rest. That's easy for me to say because I'm masochist and thrive on pain and suffering. Most of that suffering comes from CH though and not here. I do understand though. It's just that I'm a crusty old fart and easily entertained. We need you now and then for a good whipping..oh it feels so good. Your slave, Charlie |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by BobG on Jun 13th, 2003, 3:33am Thank you Sherry. |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Elaine on Jun 13th, 2003, 3:58am Sherry, I think we all feel that about the board. I think we put ourself through this because we care! I can't walk away from this board no more than I can my family. I think your the same way ;-)! |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by oringkid on Jun 13th, 2003, 7:28am I wasn't going to leave...I was just afraid I would not be welcome anymore. I also did not say that Ted caused you to change your title, Jonny. I said "due to many requests". Ted was merely the first one to support my request. And, I'm afraid, I can't STFU. I may be little and somewhat timid, but I don't like threats. Thank you all for your caring. Sherry |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by TomM on Jun 13th, 2003, 7:37am on 06/13/03 at 07:28:17, oringkid wrote:
Awesome post. |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by cathy on Jun 13th, 2003, 7:47am Sherry I hope there never comes a time when you are not welcome on the board, like has been said, everyone is entitled to their views....I agree with your post about prejudice, but I think Jonny just mis-judged the reaction it would get...kinda like I did a while back...we all make mistakes, thats what makes us human.....we all have it in us to forgive too I hope. Hope you all have a great weekend Im off now in the caravan with 4 kids!!! actually 5 wes is coming too...lol ;D Cathy :) |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by kim on Jun 13th, 2003, 7:55am Hey Sherry, You are a ray of sunshine. Don't sweat the small stuff. :) I was happy to see folks step up to the plate on that thread. It was a disappointing comment, to say the least. But ya know what? I find that aside from a feeling of sadness and disappointment my feelings remain what they always were. I have been as guilty as anyone of flapping my jaw and many times i've regretted it later. I've seen others flap in similar fashion. It's not my job to pass judgement on someone I've never met face to face. So, I don't. All ya can do is say what you mean and mean what you say. :) ****cheer up**** PS: just don't ever tawk politiks with kimmie ;D ;D ;D Rush wannabe :D |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by ZAIRA on Jun 13th, 2003, 1:09pm Sherry, this is one of the most beautiful posts I’ve ever read. ;) Respect in people’s ideas is one of the most important things in life, even if some people judge you and yr. ideas in a wrong way don’t matter. Be yourself, and don’t feel sorry for what you’ve written... ;) Surely you don’t lose any friends here also because yur contribution to OUCH is foundamental... 8) Lots of love from Zaira :-* |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by ZAIRA on Jun 13th, 2003, 1:13pm on 06/13/03 at 07:47:11, cathy wrote:
Have a nice week-end Cathy and... relax yourself if you can... ;D ;D ;D ;D Zaira |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by brain_cramps on Jun 13th, 2003, 3:20pm "Why do I put myself through this shit" Because Sherry, you should be a saint!!!!!!!!!!!!!! grant :-* |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by katethecelt on Jun 14th, 2003, 12:24am Sherry, I've read enough of your posts to know you are a valued friend and family member. You are one of the remarkable, compassionate, respected, and caring ppl here. I respect and agree with your beliefs about prejudices and how we should treat people. Judging anyone by their appearance - be it race, religion, culture, any physical attribute - is ignorant and dangerous. Wishing you PFDAN's, Kate |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Ree on Jun 14th, 2003, 7:53pm Sherry... you cant go anywhere... We have a vast number of people here now with very different ideas and upbringings... I too was offended by the title of that post... I think jonny likes to shock as he said he wanted us to open it up... get our attention and that he did. I was brought up sad to say by an Archie Bunker of a dad, who is the man of my life still but learning everyday and earning his way into Heaven. It was his upbringing before him that taught him how to treat people you see his pop my grandpa wasnt so welcome here being an Irish imagrant either. Well our generation(my sibs and I) in the McGovern clan have taught our kids that people are people and as my daddy puts it our family has become a league of nations and proud he is NOW (FINALLY)!!! and still learning... I hope I am making some sense here. Don't you dare go anywhere... Not everyone gets along. I have my religion that I am sure not everyone likes, heck there are people here that think we should take God off the dollar... I have alot of beliefs I am not afraid to speak of here and like Margi said if you lose a friend because of your beliefs then so be it... I was relieved when I went back later and saw that the title was changed. Not surprised that it hurt many. but chose not to post to it UNTIL it was changed... and posted freely in the end what I thought... Back to Dens philosophy take what you need and leave the rest... there are cliques here I dont belong to either. If you like me like me if not I like me and that is what matters.........love ya sherry girl and missed you when you werent here... miss you too ted and your big brain... Lets get back to the topic that brought us here... and lets help each other... Mee (Ree) |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by Ree on Jun 15th, 2003, 6:28pm ok Margi~~~Ree needs to look up the Sneeches... I'll let ya know what I think... me |
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Title: Re: Why do I put myself through this shit Post by cootie on Jun 15th, 2003, 6:59pm No harm done.....gotta hold onto our spot....no matter what sidea the fence were on.....we won't ever all see things or comphrehend things the same......individual individuality is what makes this world interesting and spicey.........and we all learn from each other....respectin that is just anouther word for freedom Pam |
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