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(Message started by: Ree on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:17am)

Title: Need an answer right away...
Post by Ree on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:17am
Hi Dave is in pain here....of a different kind and yes he knows from experience that Ch is worse....

what is a more powerful med... Vicodan or Percocette got both need to know... thanks me

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by oringkid on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:27am
Dennis says to give him the percocet.

Hope this helps
Sherry

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by oringkid on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:30am
Dennis has hurt himself numerous times and has taken all the different pain killers.  He said strength wise they are probably around the same but said for that kind of pain the percocet would probably be better.

Sherry

Also, I think the percocet may be less likely to upset the stomach (my opinion)
S

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by Roxy on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:31am
Ree,

Sorry he's hurting, and I wish I could help on the meds part.  I've never taken those two meds for my knee after surgery, they always gave me Lortabs, and they worked great.  We called them my 'happy' pills.  I'm not sure which is the strongest of the three.

Hope he gets some relief,
Tracey

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by brain_cramps on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:35am
Hope this helps...

Vicodin and Percocet
Question: Can you tell me the difference between Vicodin and Percocet? Are they of the same family with Percocet being more powerful? For arthritis pain, how serious is the risk of addiction with a dose of 1 or 1/2 Vicodin per day?

Answer: Vicodin is a class 3 narcotic, with hydrocodone. Percocet is a class 2 narcotic with oxycodone, which is a much stronger narcotic derivative. The risk of addiction varies with the dosage (small), with the length of time the drug is used and the personality of the patient.

http://www.druginfonet.com/index.php?pageID=faq/faqpcet.htm

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by oringkid on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:37am
Lortab and Vicodin are the same hydrocodone barbitrate and acetaminophen
Percocet is oxycodone hydrochloride and acetaminophen

Sherry

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by cootie on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:39am
Percocette........I was in a horse wreck and got the saddle horn caught up under my rib cage when the horse went down.....then when he got back up on his feet 'he thrust forward'........all I heard wasa a big ZIP noise and it tore all my ribs off the front called 'floating ribs'......when I'd move my arms you could hear loud pops of them moveing all around...I'd try and move them back to heal and gawd was that painful. Doc gave me percocette's to keep active and be able to handle it and PF a while as I healed verses laying around like an animal just hit by a car waiting to die. Could not breathe at all it hurt so bad. They got me thru it and back on my feet ! Vicoden's made me dizzy and sick.....not cool when your hurting......peuking is hard when you have broken bones !!!! Hope he feels better !!!! Pam that was a perky busted up girl back then on percocettes

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by nancyann on Jun 12th, 2003, 11:39am
I vote for the Percocet-  Vicodin don't do nothin but make me tired

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by Ree on Jun 12th, 2003, 12:59pm
Cootie YOU HICK!!!! I love your stories LOL  Dave says HI and a Yes, No, Either, Or, answer would surfice... Sheesh all that happened to you in one day....you poor thing do you have scars?? I cant wait to see them.... Were you in a body cast????  
He tried the vicodan whilst waiting the answers here he thinks Percs work better too... and Grant thanks for the concern of him not getting addicted~ No fear there... this is surgery recooperation and he is in agony from them taking a 1 1/2 by 1 1/4 inch tumor off his knee and then going in the side of it and clearing away cartelage damage...Ive been forcing the stuff on him.  He hates takin meds... thanks all love ree

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by Karla on Jun 12th, 2003, 2:11pm
Percacet is definetly stronger stuff.  Not by much tho.

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by brain_cramps on Jun 12th, 2003, 2:44pm

on 06/12/03 at 12:59:04, Ree wrote:
Grant thanks for the concern of him not getting addicted

No concern of him getting addicted,   No concern of him not getting addicted,   ;)   I was just quoting the link.

hope all goes well,
grant        8)

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by CJohnson on Jun 12th, 2003, 2:49pm
Take them both. Wash it down with a shot of Jack. :)

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by jonny on Jun 12th, 2003, 2:56pm

on 06/12/03 at 14:49:40, CJohnson wrote:
Take them both. Wash it down with a shot of Jack. :)

PFDANs
-Curtis


LMAO...Curtis ;D

Do it Dave, you will deffinetly sleep well :D

.................................jonny

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by cathy on Jun 12th, 2003, 3:40pm

Hi Ree don't know the answer to your question, just wanted to wish Dave well. Give him a hug from me.

Cathy  :)

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by BlackDog on Jun 12th, 2003, 3:48pm
For me it is percocet. It has never helped with CH but made me not care about the pain as much one time last year...

Sorry he is in pain. That sucks. Pain sucks. I would take some away if I could. I have a little room left. I am 'wishing' it away him now. Hope it helps.

(I like Curtis' suggestion though!)  ;D

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by Hound_Dogg on Jun 12th, 2003, 4:07pm

on 06/12/03 at 11:35:24, brain_cramps wrote:
Answer: Vicodin is a class 3 narcotic, with hydrocodone. Percocet is a class 2 narcotic with oxycodone, which is a much stronger narcotic derivative. The risk of addiction varies with the dosage (small), with the length of time the drug is used and the personality of the patient.

http://www.druginfonet.com/index.php?pageID=faq/faqpcet.htm


Not trying to split hairs here...but Info-net blew this one. Hydrocodone (Vicodin, Lortab, Lorcet) & Oxycodone (Percocet, Oxycontin, Roxacet) come from the same derivative "Thebaine" The only reason all Hydrocodone Rx's are Scheduled 3 is due to the acetaminophen in the tablets. Hydrocodone does not come in a preparation (in the U.S., anyway) without either tylenol or homatropine (Hycodan), while oxycodone comes in many preparations by itself(Percolone, Oxycontin, Oxyir). In actuality...the free-base compound of Hydrocodone is a Scheduled II narcotic in the U.S.. as is the free-base compound of codeine.

But to get to the question...the actual ratio of Hydrocodone to Oxycodone is 10 to 9, meaning 9 mgs. of Oxycodone is equal to 10 mgs. of Hydrocodone.

Long-winded

Jim

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by Ree on Jun 12th, 2003, 6:48pm
so JIM????which is stronger??? little ole Ree just wondering which one is best for this kind of excrutiating pain of bone that has been scraped til there is no humungous lump anymore......................hehe


ps thankyou thankyou thankyou for all of your answers so quickly  he is having a reaction to the percs and now is on benadryl too lol were not having a good week at allllllllllllllllllllllllllllll...

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by kissmyglass on Jun 12th, 2003, 7:21pm
either one should work fine Ree...  Hope the pain has eased for him by now...

Kev

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by katethecelt on Jun 12th, 2003, 10:50pm
Hi Ree,

I feel for you and Dave.  I had minor knee surgery and the pain was horrible.  

I can't take Lortab or Percocet - had allergic reactions to both.  I ended up taking Demerol.  

For his reaction to the meds, Aveeno makes a great bath soak and ointment.   While he probably can't immerse in the tub, he can still use it to take a sponge bath.  

Sending good vibes to both of you,
Kate

Title: Re: Need an answer right away...
Post by Hound_Dogg on Jun 13th, 2003, 5:00am

on 06/12/03 at 18:48:52, Ree wrote:
so JIM????which is stronger???


Ree,

Check your IM...They're pretty much equal. There is such a small difference, between the two. It would depend on the amount of drug in either type of meds. It also pretty much depends on what your husband feels comfortable with.

Hope he's feeling better.

Jim



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