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(Message started by: stuey on Jun 6^th, 2003, 1:33pm)

Title: More Food To Digest
Post by stuey on Jun 6^th, 2003, 1:33pm

I thought my cycle was finished and it aint. I got the 10 I guess yesterday at worked. I was in a closed office with the lights off and cursed and oh fucked and oh shitted and cried my ass off. I had taken a Relpax when i felt it coming on and it was like the CA was saying "yeah right take what you want I'm gonna get you". What I wondered and I thought maybe others may think is that our brains and whatever is happening to us during these attacks eventually will happen or has to happen because our brains for some reason have to do what they're doing and whatever they have to do is very painful. I think no matter what abortive I take to abort or prevent, inevitably the 10 is coming no matter what I do to prevent it. I think of some of the attacks as smaller tremors leading up to the major eruption and while all are horrible, eventually the big one catches you. I don't know if I make any sense but that's what I wondered since yesterday. I went in the office managers office yesterday after the attack and must have scared her half to death cause I was shaking and just devastated. Afterward that's when I thought about this stuff. ???

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by cbolony on Jun 6^th, 2003, 1:41pm

stuey did you ever try the imitrex injections stops mine all the time in about 10 mins.A lot of members here use it.

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by stuey on Jun 6^th, 2003, 1:48pm

Yes I take imitrex and it works. I just wondered if the phenomenon of these attacks occurs cause the brain is doing something it has to do and that's why the cycle. I don't know if I am explaining right what I'm trying to say.

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by CJohnson on Jun 6^th, 2003, 1:58pm

Please read the information in the following link for a very good article on what is happening in your head and why.
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages/47287.html

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by JDH on Jun 6^th, 2003, 1:58pm

Stuey,
I don't know why but for me it seems like a lot of times cluster cycles will follow stressful times.
The solution, NEVER RELAX, STAY STRESSED!

Jim

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by CJohnson on Jun 6^th, 2003, 2:18pm

Stuey, the problem with CH is the acute pain. Are you wondering whether the pain is a result of some other necassary function of your biology?

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by stuey on Jun 6^th, 2003, 2:23pm

Curtis I guess that is what I am wondering.

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by CJohnson on Jun 6^th, 2003, 2:42pm

My opinion, so far, is that the pain is a result of the trigeminal nerve reacting normally to abnormal stimulus. From what I understand, the pain is the result of an irregularity in the hypothalamus generating an anomaly in some aspect of circadean rhythm which causes serotonin modulation to become unstable. Somehow, some aspect of this serotonergic instability stimulates the trigeminal nerve. Thus activated, C-fibers within the trigeminal nerve release vasoactive neuropeptides (such as cytokines), calcitonin gene-related peptide (CGRP), substance P (SP) and neurokanin A. The released CGRP and vasoactive intestinal peptides causes the trigeminal nerve to activate again and the blood vessels to dilate abnormally. Some element of this mechanism generates (or fails to prohibit) signals which travel, unmodulated by the spine, through a system of neurons to a part of the brain, which interprets them as CH pain.

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by TomM on Jun 6^th, 2003, 2:45pm

on 06/06/03 at 13:58:27, JDH wrote:

I don't know why but for me it seems like a lot of times cluster cycles will follow stressful times.

Mine occur in the winter when I am stressed. Others, stress is not a factor. Go figure.
TomM

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by Opus on Jun 6^th, 2003, 2:50pm

Stuey,
My last cycle ended with random hits for a week. It seems like the beast likes to go out with a bang, then only shadows after that.

Opus/Paul

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by stuey on Jun 6^th, 2003, 3:01pm

:)Curtis I think you are smarter than that website you pointed out to me! THanks. Stuey

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by CJohnson on Jun 9^th, 2003, 7:27am

on 06/06/03 at 15:01:42, stuey wrote:

:)Curtis I think you are smarter than that website you pointed out to me! THanks. Stuey

That's a good one. The link actually leads to a post from this (actully the much revered "old board") message board by some guy named "Drummer". The article he posted (and I linked to) is written by Lars Edvinsson, MD, PhD, a leading medical researcher. I spent a few hours pouring over that article, and it helped me piece together some of the random bits of information I have come across, regarding the mechanism of CH. My little handful (if even that!) of knowledge is pretty much the consolidated version of what I got out of that article.

PFDANs
-Curtis

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by Donna on Jun 9^th, 2003, 7:49am

Dave(drummer) was bigger than life here at ch.com for a long time...........first elected President!!

Look him up in the archives.........you'll love some of his wit (or not).

We miss him dearly and are angry with him for leaving.

Title: Re: More Food To Digest
Post by jonny on Jun 9^th, 2003, 6:26pm

Ya Drummer, where the hell are you with my blank tape and $5 bucks?

Past prez or not I want my tape and $5 back!!!!

If you cant trust the Prez who can you trust.....FU Don, I aint sending you anything ;D

................................jonny