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(Message started by: mikeinohio on May 9th, 2003, 7:16am)

Title: How bout a beer?
Post by mikeinohio on May 9th, 2003, 7:16am
Iwas wondering if anyone has any information on the effects beer has on CH.I ll have a drink a couple times a week and find that during remision theres no problems. Its demon fighting season now and i was hearing that beer may trigger or enhance a CH. I dont know if this is true or not but im scared to death of anything that will call the beast. The easy solution is just avoid it all together but thats another issue for another day  thank for the feedback

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by BobG on May 9th, 2003, 7:57am
Most clusterheads avoid alcohol in all forms during a cycle. It is probably the #1 trigger of attacks.

Next time you feel a shadow have a beer and see what happens. Good luck.  ;)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 8:54am

on 05/09/03 at 07:57:54, BobG wrote:
Next time you feel a shadow have a beer and see what happens.

I'll save you the brain-pain!   Wait until your cycle is gone...FOR SURE!!!    Some episodics can occasionally have a beer (I've gotten away with it a couple times), but USUALLY you'll regret it.

Substitute beer with a LOT of water.  (American beer tastes like water anyways.)   ;)

grant    8)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by BobG on May 9th, 2003, 8:59am
American beer tastes like water?

Not all of it.

Coors tastes like skunk piss.

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 9:02am
LMAO!!!    ;D

grant   8)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by echo on May 9th, 2003, 9:20am

on 05/09/03 at 08:59:43, BobG wrote:
Coors tastes like skunk piss.


And you know that HOW!?!   You need to be alittle more discriminate of what you're drinking when you go camping in the woods Bob. ;D ;D

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by JDH on May 9th, 2003, 9:29am
Let's see, CH episode, add a couple of beers and watch me lose my mind!  :o
Beer (either American or that America light crap from up north) is probably my #2 trigger,  it's right up there with sleep.

Jim


Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 9:37am

on 05/09/03 at 09:29:49, JDH wrote:
either American or that America light crap from up north

You must be thinking of Milwaukee!    ;D ;)

from-the-land-of-REAL-beer (Kokanee, Pilsner, Export, Canadian, Blue, Moosehead...),
grant    http://uselessgraphics.com/boozer.gif

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Hamster on May 9th, 2003, 9:41am
I find this subject extremely interesting for many reasons.  I am episodic, but fortunately alcohol has never been a trigger for me, in or out of bout.  However, as others say, the majority of clusterheads I know cannot go near the stuff.

Now this might get a bit contentious, and apologies if it has been covered here before, but I have also heard from a few sufferers who claim to have used beer successfully as an abortive.  Sounded dubious to me, but recently when the beast started knocking at the door whilst I was on the way to a barbie, on a hot sunny afternoon, foolishly with no medication, it was a question of go back home or experiment.

So experiment I did.  I downed the first pint in a couple of minutes but soon reached Kip 3/4.  I then found a quiet room, up to Kip 5, immediately downed another pint, and wham: gone!  Pure chance perchance, who knows?  I am still not convinced either way, but I have not had the opportunity to re-experiment because that was the final attack of my last bout (which in itself may be important).  I shall experiment again, but needless to say, I can wait.

ATB
Hamster

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by cootie on May 9th, 2003, 9:44am
Brad's found out the hard way many a time when his cycle is starting........beer bad ! He'd drink a beer and get hit real quick...he kept tryin to out drink a hit cuz he was so stressed but he lost every time. Beer's bad fer Brad Pam.... (he's outa cycle now so he is makein up fer the loss)  ;D

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Miklos on May 9th, 2003, 9:50am
I drink a beer, and I get hit hard. I don't drink a beer, and I get hit hard. If I'm going to suffer, I might as well suffer relaxed. Bud Dry only. None of that northern swill.

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 9:54am

on 05/09/03 at 09:41:06, Hamster wrote:
a few sufferers who claim to have used beer successfully as an abortive.


http://tinyurl.com/bdgm

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by stevegeebe on May 9th, 2003, 10:16am
86 the beer during my cycles.  For me, it is a trigger and makes the pain worse.

I'm going to a crawfish (it ain't bait) boil this weekend.  Suckin' heads without a beer is ..well...stupid.  I was wondering if NA beer could be a trigger?  Come to think of it NA beer is ...well...stupid.  Any input?

Steve

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 10:27am

on 05/09/03 at 10:16:03, stevegeebe wrote:
I was wondering if NA beer could be a trigger?

Never tried one   ;)

I have heard someone mention that here saying it WAS a trigger...   Go figure.

grant    8)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by stevek on May 9th, 2003, 10:32am
Not doctor recommended, but I will take a zomig or an imtrex pill before I drink.  This usually works for those must- drink-while-in-cycle situations.

Good luck,  stevek

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 11:02am

on 05/09/03 at 10:32:59, stevek wrote:
This usually works for those must-drink-while-in-cycle situations.

Hmmmmm...   Never had one of those!     (er, not really  ;))

grant    8)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Mack on May 9th, 2003, 11:16am
I used to try to outdrink the beast.. LOL  He won everytime.  Sent me to ER once for the pain. So for me, in cycle, BEER = BAD.  
I have cut down on alcohol intake quite a bit while out of cycle and cycles are shorter, less intense and less frequent.
Your milage may vary...lol ;D


Mack

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by oringkid on May 9th, 2003, 11:20am
I get hit whether I drink or not.  So, in cycle I use the beer to manipulate the beast.  I will drink a beer to bring on the beast before I go to bed.  That way it pushes my attacks back and I can get some sleep.

I aint lettin the beast tell me what to do damnit!

BTW, I tried the N/A route during one cycle and yes, it still brought on the beast.  Not quite as quickly but it did bring it on.

Sherry

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by BobbyS on May 9th, 2003, 11:28am
Booze of any kind and clusters is a 100% bad idea!! I usually get about 2 weeks warning before my cycle actually hits....the last time I had no warnings at all....just sittin' watching TV and having a brew....next thing I knew I was rolling on the floor for 4 months. Definitely avoid it until after your cycle is done! Isn't that why God invented pot?? ;)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by cootie on May 9th, 2003, 11:38am
There's a slight problem with the pot theory for sum.....bein tested at work.....TROUBLE......and gettin busted........MORE TROUBLE........otherwise it's a good alternative. Bongs r best Pam  ;D

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by JDH on May 9th, 2003, 11:44am

on 05/09/03 at 10:32:59, stevek wrote:
those must- drink-while-in-cycle situations.

Good luck,  stevek


Is that like when you're gonna have sex?  ;D

Jim

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 11:45am

on 05/09/03 at 11:28:42, BobbyS wrote:
Isn't that why God invented pot?? ;)

I'm pretty sure he didn't have clusters in mind when he did that!    ;)


grant    8)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by JDH on May 9th, 2003, 11:47am

on 05/09/03 at 11:28:42, BobbyS wrote:
Isn't that why God invented pot?? ;)


FUCKENEH! Bobby  ;)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jonny on May 9th, 2003, 2:17pm
28 years chronic and not one trigger, not even beer. ;D

Thats the only good thing I got out of this shitass deal.

........................................jonny

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jimt on May 9th, 2003, 2:39pm
Some people may question this, but I'm a chronic and just started having this shit last July.  I would only get the h/a after not drinking for a day and continue to get them if I didn't drink.  So, about 5 weeks ago I started drinking at least 5 beers a day and have only had 6 h/a since and they have been mild and last usually only 10 to 15 minutes.

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jonny on May 9th, 2003, 3:03pm

on 05/09/03 at 14:39:35, jimt wrote:
Some people may question this, but I'm a chronic and just started having this shit last July.


Chronic is: 365 days without 14 consecutive days pain free and free of meds.

Your not chronic....be glad!!

.................................jonny

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jimt on May 9th, 2003, 3:08pm
It hasn't been 365 yet but I've not gone 14 consecutive days without a ch. since July.

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jonny on May 9th, 2003, 4:30pm

on 05/09/03 at 15:08:15, jimt wrote:
It hasn't been 365 yet but I've not gone 14 consecutive days without a ch. since July.


Then I guess you can talk chronic if that keeps up till July.

BTW....you on meds?

This aint a pissing contest im just telling you the definition of chronic seeing that you didnt know it.

..................................jonny

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by cathy on May 9th, 2003, 4:43pm

on 05/09/03 at 11:28:42, BobbyS wrote:
I was rolling on the floor for 4 months.

Isn't that why God invented pot?? ;)


Hey Nice to meet you Bobby, I think maybe you should smoke less of the pot, do you think maybe it was just somewhere between 5 mins - 2/12 hours...???, or maybe you just can't remember... ;D ;)

Cathy

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by brain_cramps on May 9th, 2003, 5:20pm
LMAO   cathy      ;D ;D ;D


grant   8)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by cootie on May 10th, 2003, 1:15am
Cathy !!!!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D  Roooooll anuther one Pam  ;)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by KingOfPain on May 10th, 2003, 2:05am

on 05/09/03 at 15:03:56, jonny wrote:
Chronic is: 365 days without 14 consecutive days pain free and free of meds.

Your not chronic....be glad!!

.................................jonny




I am really sorry what the Chronic's go through.  :(

I have a hard time being glad (about much on that subject) knowing what the Chronic's go through on a day-to-day basis.


Hang in Bro ( & all Chronic's).



KingOfPain

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by suzy617 on May 10th, 2003, 8:10am
Drinking a beer while in cycle will definitely bring on an attack for me yet I can drink vodka and it doesnt and if I drink ALOT of vodka I will even avoid the middle of the night attack for some reason. Go figure....

Suzy

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Ree on May 10th, 2003, 8:51am
Daves shortest cycle in Ree-History, (the time spent with ree... are you taking notes?)was when he gave up drinking... when he drinks during a cycle the imatrex and abortives don't work... The worst cycles in Ree-History were in the Summer when we had alot of functions and things to go to where he felt he HAD to drink...(like anyone HAS to drink)....... I am also a disbeliever in the drink out of a cycle thing... I wish the chronics would try not drinking for at least a month to see if they could become not chronic...just my assessment from experience... Ree

Suzy YOU bring the vodka~~~funny though drinking gives me headaches  HANGOVER HEADACHES...  

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by suzy617 on May 10th, 2003, 9:36am
Ree
The vodka is already packed and for you a king size bottle of advils.  ;)

Suzy

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jonny on May 10th, 2003, 11:07am

on 05/10/03 at 08:51:02, Ree wrote:
I wish the chronics would try not drinking for at least a month to see if they could become not chronic...just my assessment from experience... Ree 


Not all chronics drink and they are still chronic. ;D

..................................jonny

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Ree on May 10th, 2003, 11:24am
ok jonny whatever makes you feel good...
Blue~~~ ok are we friends again  Reebie

ps what are you doin in on this awesome day...

I have melanoma what is your excuse...LOL

I have no kid and no Dave ~~~~wanna go drinkin????

Hey Suzy~ I'll bring the Mary Mix to the convention!!!!

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by cootie on May 10th, 2003, 11:49am
Ok Ree's wearin blue....me....none.....anyhow...where was I ....you mentiond melenoma....my mom has melenoma and had to have lota reconstructive surgery....it was gawd aweful. BAD storm headin our way so I'm gonna go batten down the hatches...cripes ! Hey wanna go out with us tanight ? Hopein not ta get blown or washed away Pam  :o

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by MarkV on May 10th, 2003, 6:31pm
Suzy617,

Check this out....  I can't drink or smell a beer (sob) when hit bad in a cycle, but I can drink tequila and suck down margaritas till I speak Spanish.  

Can't drink vodka and gin, but lately tried corn moonshine during a "mild" cycle and didn't do too bad either.

Weird, huh?  Beer's what I like, and of course its the worst trigger!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by suzy617 on May 10th, 2003, 9:14pm
Mark V
Yes the beer is a trigger and its the worst but I'm not in cycle so I can drink my Girly lites (cores lite) any time I want ( weekend only mind you) and ya know what, I drank them till the cows came home tonite, LOL.  Yes I'm drunk and it took me 2 hours to write this  ;D but I feel for ya brothers and sisters, ive been there and  done that before. Ok  
PFDANS to ya all, bed time for me now....
Suzy

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Drk^Angel on May 13th, 2003, 3:35pm
Mmmmmmmmm... Beer...

PFDAN...................................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by jonny on May 13th, 2003, 3:42pm

on 05/10/03 at 11:24:08, Ree wrote:
ok jonny whatever makes you feel good...
Blue~~~ ok are we friends again  Reebie

ps what are you doin in on this awesome day...

I have melanoma what is your excuse...LOL

I have no kid and no Dave ~~~~wanna go drinkin????


I am oh so sorry I missed this post, Ree.

For a couple reasons ;D

........................................jonny

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Peppermint on May 13th, 2003, 4:06pm

on 05/10/03 at 21:14:00, suzy617 wrote:
Mark V
Yes the beer is a trigger and its the worst but I'm not in cycle so I can drink my Girly lites (cores lite) any time I want ( weekend only mind you) and ya know what, I drank them till the cows came home tonite, LOL.  Yes I'm drunk and it took me 2 hours to write this  ;D but I feel for ya brothers and sisters, ive been there and  done that before. Ok  
PFDANS to ya all, bed time for me now....
Suzy

For posterity. --- SNIPE!  Gotcha Run-around :)

Ok MarkV, so if you want to learn Spanish, I'll bring the Tequila, that's my drink (no frozen ty, with salt), I'll test this theory with you but you may end up under the table before we're through. ... by yerself.. LOL

Tequila and Vodka Suze... that luggage is gonna be heavy...Ree, I'll share.  

Black. ;)

Title: Re: How bout a beer?
Post by Wendy the Brit on May 13th, 2003, 5:08pm
Pam

Make sure you check in after the storm to let us know you are OK?

W the B



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