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(Message started by: don on May 1st, 2003, 3:26pm)

Title: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 1st, 2003, 3:26pm
Well go ahead.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by cathy on May 1st, 2003, 3:29pm


Me no matter what it has written under my name...!!

Cathy  :)

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by brain_cramps on May 1st, 2003, 3:34pm
Lives on the east coast of Canada.

Drinks massive quantities of horrible tasting rum called 'Screech'.

Is rarely employed (during the fishing season or any other time)

Gets new visitors to his island to kiss a dead cod.






oops!   thought you said Newfie!    ;D

grant    8)

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2003, 3:50pm
Main Entry: new·bie
Pronunciation: 'nü-bE, 'nyü-
Function: noun
Etymology: irregular from new
Date: 1985
: BEGINNER, NOVICE; especially : a newcomer to cyberspace
----------------------
In the context you are probably asking: a newcomer to this site.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by jonny on May 1st, 2003, 4:09pm
Virgin.....yum!!! ;D

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Mr.Happy on May 1st, 2003, 4:18pm

on 05/01/03 at 16:09:35, jonny wrote:
Virgin.....yum!!! ;D

DING! Proof once again that Wotan speaks thru many mouths. Time to dump the "Newbie" thing, and use a term more apropo to the intelligentsia.......

Loose _Lips_ sink ships,
RJ

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 1st, 2003, 8:03pm

Quote:
: BEGINNER, NOVICE;


Beginner or novice to what? (Pertaining to this board.)

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Mark C on May 1st, 2003, 8:10pm
One Star!

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Elaine on May 1st, 2003, 8:40pm
I like new family memeber! I think that is a good one!!!

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 1st, 2003, 8:46pm
I like that one to Elaine but I'm pushing for something not as simplistic as that. Based on Franks previous post on the board pissing him off.

Someone new to the board?
Someone new to CH ?
Both?

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by jimbo on May 1st, 2003, 8:59pm
Define Newbie:

Me, about a year ago! ;D

seeya,

Jimbo

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2003, 9:25pm

on 05/01/03 at 20:46:35, don wrote:
I like that one to Elaine but I'm pushing for something not as simplistic as that. Based on Franks previous post on the board pissing him off.

Someone new to the board?
Someone new to CH ?
Both?

A "newbie" as I referred to in my earlier thread is someone who is new to this message board. Someone who has just found this message board and comes here seeking our SUPPORT and UNDERSTANDING. Someone who hasn't been here long enough to know there is such a thing as the "archives"...  who may also not yet know about all of those wonderful "buttons on the left". A person who has only posted 1 to 10 times who may not want to stay around if he/she is flamed for asking seeming stupid questions.

I sense the reason why you started this thread. So... if you think that what I said in my earlier thread  is completely full of shit.... just say so... and explain why you feel that way.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Margi on May 1st, 2003, 9:32pm
It really depends on the person, Don.  Some folks show up here and a lot of us can just "tell" if they have been genuinely battling the beast for a long time, by how they present themselves.  They're not newbies.  They're the brother we never knew we had that's finally come home.  They were never newbies.
Then we get the people that sound like they've been misdiagnosed and are lost (maybe not believing their diagnosis either), but still trying to find a box to put their pain in.  They're not newbies either - they're just lost.
Then there are the wannabes - they are folks who fit neither category but have an urgent need to belong to a social group (for ANY reason).  Why anyone would WANT to say they qualify to be a cluster peep is beyond me, but...it's a lonely old world out there.
Newbies?  I dunno either now.  Maybe it's the ones who also dive into water without checking depth first - meaning the ones who arrive here and start snapping orders and spouting rules (that actually hasn't happened for a long time.

Oh, I KNOW - Waterdog.  he will ALWAYS be a newbie.  

so, in other words - I don't have anything of value to contribute here LOL  i'll just be shutting up now.


Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Marc on May 1st, 2003, 9:33pm
Hey Frank - you're full of shit.  ;D

Not the post you are talking about, I liked that.

Marc
Newbie

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2003, 9:38pm

on 05/01/03 at 21:33:33, Marc wrote:
Hey Frank - you're full of shit.  ;D

Not the post you are talking about, I liked that.

Marc
Newbie

Usually around 6:00am, and again around 6:00pm. ;D

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Not4Hire on May 1st, 2003, 9:40pm
...apprentice....
...journeyman...
...master.....

...bachelor...

...master...
...doctor...

...freshman...
...sophmore...
...junior...
...senior...

...deputy...
...sheriff...
...marshal...

...private...
...corporal...
...sergeant...
...yadda.....

?

...hadda life...
...lost a life...
...get a life...

....fuckit......
...don't like labels.....

we're all either *together*.....or like when we found *this*:

alone.....



Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by JDH on May 1st, 2003, 9:42pm
I'd say a newbie is someone new to the MB.
Seems like most people posting for the first time have either recently been diagnosed or have or have known what they have but didn't know about this website.  
When they do post for the first time they usually say they have had these for x amount of years.
You very rarely see anyone who's just started getting hit find their way in here. Most people already know about the beast, they just haven't been formally introduced yet.
When it first started happening to me I was like WTF was that! I had no idea there was a name for it other than WOWTHISFUCKIN'HURTSBIGTIME!!!
so even though we weren't down with the i-net back then I wouldn't have known what to look for anyway.

Jim

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 1st, 2003, 9:45pm
well Frank

your sense is completely wrong. About 180 degrees to the wrong. If I thought you were a fuck head and full of shit I would have said so already.

I think your definition of "newbie" is to shallow. As is your paranoid response.  ;D

JDH you are are almost on the same thought track as
me.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2003, 9:49pm

on 05/01/03 at 21:45:30, don wrote:
well Frank

your sense is completely wrong. About 180 degrees to the wrong. If I thought you were a fuck head and full of shit I would have said so already.

I think your definition of "newbie" is to shallow. As is your paranoid response.  ;D

JDH you are are almost on the same thought track as
me.

OK... if I mis-guessed your intent, I am sorry. So, what is a "newbie"?

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 1st, 2003, 9:54pm
I never said I have the answer. It was a thought provoking question and I'm still thinking about it.


Quote:
Beginner or novice to what? (Pertaining to this board.)


I should have said "Pertaining to the reasons for this board"

So far I have come up with this;

A newbie is someone who finds us. They are in a state of emotional and mental crises. They may have suffered for 1 year or 40. Time is not a common denominator. The common denominators that would have someone search us out are fear and isolation. Not the fear of having CH, the fear of not knowing why. The fear of being a sole victim and completely alone in an unexplained misery. The pain of the CH has penetrated the physical and has saturated the "newbies"spirit. The "newbie" has been made to feel physically, mentally and emotionally feeble and susceptable. It is a sense of sheer terror that drives someone to search us out.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Drk^Angel on May 1st, 2003, 10:08pm
Oh oh... Me me!  I'm a newbie!  Right here!  I iz the eternal newbie!  Right here and now in the text!  Here I am!

PFDAN........................................... Drk^Angel

P.S.  Dunno about this board... But in iNet terms... A newbie is someone who just don't get it... Whether it's your first time around, or you're an old grampa on the block... If ya don't get it... You's a newbie.  And I never get any... :(

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by cootie on May 1st, 2003, 10:18pm
This is where ya go ta get slapped around a lill bit by NEWBIES.......revenge of the newbies.......they have there own network and are tryin ta fool us and lure us into there world....it's a trick it's a trick ! Not a newbie no mo Pam  ;D

http://newbies.fateback.com/

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2003, 10:20pm

on 05/01/03 at 21:54:06, don wrote:
I never said I have the answer. It was a thought provoking question and I'm still thinking about it.


I should have said "Pertaining to the reasons for this board"

So far I have come up with this;

A newbie is someone who finds us. They are in a state of emotional and mental crises. They may have suffered for 1 year or 40. Time is not a common denominator. The common denominators that would have someone search us out are fear and isolation. Not the fear of having CH, the fear of not knowing why. The fear of being a sole victim and completely alone in an unexplained misery. The pain of the CH has penetrated the physical and has saturated the "newbies"spirit. The "newbie" has been made to feel physically, mentally and emotionally feeble and susceptable. It is a sense of sheer terror that drives someone to search us out.

Good definition. But if time is not a common denominator... Would that mean that a person who has suffered CH attacks for years, who knows as much about CH and it's treatments as anyone who has been here forever, and has been doing all of the right things to treat his/her CH... but ends up here anyway... is not a "newbie"?

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Marc on May 1st, 2003, 11:03pm
So.....it would seem that quite often the term simply doesn't apply here.  Is the term simply antiquated?  I can accept that....

I most certainly recall the tears (literally) when I found this place - as a Newbie...... ;D

Marc

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Bill_C on May 2nd, 2003, 12:40am
Damned if I know.  I've been in and out of this board since 1998 and I'm still listed as a newbie.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Charlie on May 2nd, 2003, 6:04am
A newbie is a poor sole who stumbles on to us only to find that there is no magic bullet. Once here, however, he is no longer soley, a poor sole.

Charlie

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 2nd, 2003, 6:22am
Frank .......yes

Good chance that anyone who has had and has treated CH for years has only treated the physical aspect.


Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 2nd, 2003, 6:30am
Frank.......yes

I am the [erfect example of someone who had suffered and for the most part successfully treated the PHYSICAL aspects of CH. When I searched out the board, after 20+ years I still felt desperate and isolated.

So if this definition fits, even in part, it begs the question;

How would you respond to an individual who is desperate and in some level of emotional crisis?

The short answer, I think is  "with extreme sensitivity".

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by JDH on May 2nd, 2003, 7:11am

on 05/01/03 at 23:03:22, Marc wrote:
I most certainly recall the tears (literally) when I found this place - as a Newbie...... ;D

Marc


Ditto Marc

Jim

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 2nd, 2003, 8:30am
JDH and Marc

If you dont mind disclosing;

How many years had you suffered and treated your CH before tearfully fing this place ?

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by JDH on May 2nd, 2003, 9:09am
Don,
I first got on the internet in '97 which was about 12 yrs after I was first diagnosed. I wasn't even a cycle at the time but I remember one of the first things I looked up (  ;D after checking out the porn) was CH info.
I don't believe this site was even up yet but I found a site that talked about the effects of light on CH by a guy named Paul ???
This was the first time in 12 yrs I had ever heard of anybody else having these things and it was pretty emotional.
Then along came DJ and this place and that's when I really started finding out there was a whole lot of us out here going through this and that was also a very emotional thing for me. Misery loves company, eh?

Jim

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by miCHel on May 2nd, 2003, 9:41am
Hey guys!

I had been suffering from CH for 17 years when I found this site two years ago.  Before that I was all alone to fight this thing and doing a rather lousy job at it I might add  :-/

So I certainly didn't feel like a "newbie" to CH when I got here.  But I was a total newbie to the MB (and still am).  And I really don't mind the "Title" because I learned so much here and discovered such a great bunch of people.  I also understand that a lot of you have been here longer and/or post more often or even had the chance to meet face to face.  And I respect that totally.

So the bottom line is this, the help and support we get when we need it on this site is so great that you can call me anything you like... because I am pretty sure you will "call me" if I call upon you for anything.  I think I might be pushing my luck here ;D ;D

Maybe one day I will no longer be a newbie on this MB but in the meantime, I really really really don't mind.

miCHel, happy newbie (or whatever)

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 2nd, 2003, 10:45am

Quote:
Misery loves company, eh?


Misery NEEDS company. I dont see the essence of being a newbie as "first time poster".

I see it as someone who has finally come home. Home to where the fear and isolation can be validated and finally let go of.

I've seen where a lot of "newbies" "stumbled upon this site".

I dont think so. I think we were all led here.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Mark C on May 2nd, 2003, 10:55am
Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=clusterheadaches), at the urgence of my head lead me here. Strange it took me so long. I have been on the Net for years, I guess things in happen when thay are supposed to.

Keep posting all the crap I do and you get stars pretty quick anyway!

Wasting space going for a 1000 posts,
Mark

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by cbolony on May 2nd, 2003, 11:00am
I'am a newbie who found this site about 15 months ago
who had these fucking headaches on the left side of my head.For five years i thought they were sinus headaches
but nobody who had sinus headaches was in this much fucking pain.After one big headache went on the internet and started to look for headaches that i was having and came across clusterheads.When i came across clusterheadaches.com i was spying on all of uses for about a week then i sign up and posted.But before i made my first post i did read everything on the left side of the board so i could under stand what the fuck was cluster headaches.The people on this board made me under stand what i was going threw and i was not alone.I will like to thank all of you.
Charles Bologna
NEWBIE

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Hamster on May 2nd, 2003, 11:49am
Me!

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by katethecelt on May 2nd, 2003, 11:58am
I liked several of the definitions.  This is my first post.  

I'm having my second episode.  The pain has made it difficult to research the archives. I'm self-conscious about asking questions.  I'm scared, largely uninformed, but am not having a pity party (I did and it was a huge success  ;).

Finding a group of people who understand the beast has made me feel less alone.

Wishing you PFD.

Kate

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Wendy the Brit on May 2nd, 2003, 12:39pm
Kate the Celt
from
Wendy the Brit

Welcome Kate, first time poster and "Newbie". I was what it seems is rare, Newbie CH sufferer, and Newbie to the board as well. I am one of the lucky ones as OUCH UK and CH.com meant that I didn't spend years in the wilderness like so many others.

Why Celt by the way??

W the B

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by oringkid on May 2nd, 2003, 1:29pm
Soon after I was diagnosed with CH, I decided to try to find out more about it.  So I looked it up and found this site.  I had never used a message board before, ever!
But I had had CH for many years.

When I went looking, it was out of curiosity, a need to learn.  I expected to find my answers on medical sites etc.  I was amazed to find this site, and further amazed that there were others like me and ever further amazed that these people had gotten together!

I was then appalled that this was the only site that really had any good information on it!  Sure the med sites basically and mostly inaccurately defined CH but that was ALL!!

I love this site, and the people in it!  I thank DJ from the bottom of my heart and the left side of my head!!

Sherry

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by katethecelt on May 2nd, 2003, 4:16pm
Wendy,

A friend told me about this site.  I use "the Celt" because of my Irish/Scot heritage.  I also love to read about Celtic history, traditions, etc and am practicing some of the art work.

That was probably more than you wanted to know, LOL.

Kate

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Wendy the Brit on May 2nd, 2003, 4:53pm
No, that's great Kate the Celt, I like the name!

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Wendy the Brit on May 2nd, 2003, 4:56pm
The irony is that a few generations back my family was American. An American lawyer called Howe who was a millionaire and apparently famous enough at the time (book and film called Howe and Hummel)

Anyone out there know where his millions went? I'll give you a cut!

W the B

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Hound_Dogg on May 3rd, 2003, 11:46am
We are all "Newbie's" in this wonderful game I like to call life. ::)

Newbie...like the morning dew.
Newbie...like a clean pair of underwear.
Newbie...like the fresh driven snow.

Yes, I'm a newbie. 8)

Jim (the newbie) B.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by totka on May 3rd, 2003, 1:22pm
http://www.tar.hu/totka/newbie.gif
I dunno. I'm a JUNIOR!!!  ::)

OK, everybody was born as a newbie. Or not.  ;D


Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by Linda_Howell on May 3rd, 2003, 2:16pm

       Wendy the Brit,

            He left his millions to me.  I added 2 "ll's" to the name and promptly squandered it on Imitrex......when I was a newbie.   Sorry.

          Linda Howell

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by catlind on May 4th, 2003, 7:06am
Don, I think I like what you are trying to get at with this thread.

When I came here, I too cried and cried.  I told my hubby repeatedly, "They are telling my life story!".  I did not have a firm CH diagnosis.  It had been suggested.  As had multiple other diagnosis.  I found this site, oddly enough, through the cluster quiz.  Then went back to the first page.  I had to read everything, all that I could.  I was overjoyed and deeply saddened.  It was a bittersweet moment finding this home.  And as a newbie, I had a ton of questions, most of which were a real reach.

I was accepted warmly, helped immensely, and given a place at the table unconditionally.

Cat

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 4th, 2003, 9:06am
UHH?   No one has told you about the conditions yet ?

Title: daffynition
Post by rumplestiltskin on May 4th, 2003, 10:04am
"Newbie"...a person "new" to this message board that wonders/says:

1. why are there so many posts on the board about "the board" instead of Clusters?
2. Who the fuck is this "Jonny" person?
3. So this is what happens to people after years of headbanging and drugs.
4. Does that "DJ" guy ever read this shit?
5. I don't see any posts about Cluster-migraines.
6. I think I'll post something alone the lines of "hey people...can't we all just get along"
7. ....shut the fuck up! ...Yes I'm "still on the computer"!
8. ...have that...never done that....tried that...tried that...tried that...bullshit that can't work...she sounds horney....no wonder those cannule fuckers never worked....tried that...oh man I gotta try that!

....as usual Don...yer looking too deep into a shallow stream.

Good Grief
den

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by don on May 4th, 2003, 10:07am
You could be right Den.

I gotta learn to be more shallow. How about this;

A freakin newbie is youse guys who dont know nutin bout dis place. Smartin da fuck up !

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by catlind on May 4th, 2003, 1:24pm
hmmm...there were conditions? uh oh....

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by kim on May 4th, 2003, 2:52pm
Most people come here after exhausting every other avenue of understanding and treatment that exhisted b4 the PC.

I think a NEWBIE is someone who owns a PC and has entered a search engine in the hopes of finding SOME MEDICINAL option that they have not already tried.

A newbie has most likely suffered clusters for a LONG TIME.

NEWBIE applies to the internet message board forum. I guess PC users will continue to intensify.  I expect more and more newbies.  Some of you think that might not be so good.  I tend to think it is WAY KEWL!..........we have more power not less.

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by cootie on May 4th, 2003, 6:19pm
aren't newbies a part of evolution....didn't everyone evolve from a newbie. Not so new newbie Pam

Title: Re: Define Newbie
Post by OneEyeBlind on May 4th, 2003, 7:27pm
Ok, my definition of a newbie (which I will always be) ...

Ya walk through life thinking that people will help even if you haven't read the book first.  You are looking for a mentor, someone to show you the ropes - cause ya know ... you aren't the most experienced at what ya do. You admit every day you are not the "master".  

That's what happens to those of us who venture into new realms everyday .. never letting anything stop us.  We don't care that we are stupid ... we only want to learn.  The easy way.  

Call me a newbie ........... and see if I care.   Love you all.  Cause you have each taught me something.   



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