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(Message started by: jonny on Apr 24th, 2003, 5:31pm)

Title: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by jonny on Apr 24th, 2003, 5:31pm
I was working up a  bid on a job today, came up with $35,000. The company name is "AstraZeneca". (See bottom right of photo)



http://tinyurl.com/a9mf

I didnt realise who they were until I reached for a Zomig a half hour ago.

Should I up my bid to get back at the bastards and risk losing the job cause im to high on the bid?

If I do up my bid and get the job will it just mean that the cost will trickle down to us?

Do I do nothing and just submit my bid?

What would you do?

Me?, I would love to bend these bastards over!!!!!

.................................jonny

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Not4Hire on Apr 24th, 2003, 5:48pm
...ahh, fuckit!...TAKE THEIR MONEY....if YOU don't get the job, some other shlub WILL....and we'll *still* ALL end up payin'..... I'd just as soon see YOU get it.... but write a *FREE PILLS FOR JONNY* clause in the contract..... if I know ya, you'll find a way of gettin' rid of a case of ZOMIG...... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by jimbo on Apr 24th, 2003, 6:16pm
jonny,

I'm in biz to, what I would do is bid it the right way and try to take as much out of them later by doing change orders to the project if required. I'm not sure what their looking for from you as far as product goes, but if there is a bid specification with the request for bid form, check it over real good! A lot of times they fuck up on it and don't even know it, so thats when you drill for oil in their asses. ;D

Good luck Bro and I hope you get it. Thing are fucking tough out there right now. I was at a high of 12 full-timers six months ago and now I'm down to 4. Pretty tough to pay the bills right now but hey, Clusterheads are a resilient bunch aren't they? I will recover! FUCKENEH

Seeya,

Jimbo

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Ted on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:08pm
I say you get the bid, with the stipulation that once they pay you you'll tell them when you can work, sort of matching their "usual dosage" info printed on the outside of the box.
Then, after you're all paid up inform them you can only work two times per day (even if you don't really work the first time) with at least a two hour break in between and you're only going to work six times per month, maximum. If they start to squabble, tell them to take it up with their insurance company.

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by suzy617 on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:10pm
Jonny,

I say... go for it.... As Not4Hire said, if you dont get it somebody else will. Would rather you get the $$.

Good luck,
Suzy

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by don on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:13pm
This was the automated response from the regarding the OUCH 03 convention:

Dear Mr. Young,

Thank you for contacting AstraZeneca LP.

We have forwarded your information along to the appropriate personnel.  

Sincerely,

Information Center at AstraZeneca



Appropriate personnel must be part the Iraqi regime. Haven't seen hide nor hair from them since.

Bid the job and put in the contract that a portion of the money will go to OUCH. You know? The folks that make you rich and you kick to the curb.


Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Sean_C on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:17pm
Would I fuck this Company................depends. Are they gonna feed the family for 3 months, if yes then no I wouldn't. If you have more work than you can handle now and you think this Company is going to be a one time wonder then hittem where it hurts bro, right in the fuckin' wallet ::) Who knows, maybe you'll score...maybe you won't, either way your the man keepin the boys goin', I think its a tough call.

Best of Luck

Sean

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by marty on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:19pm
Take the job - get the money..  

Sorry to say that I believe that it is a Swedish owned company - for that I am very sorry (I used to be Swedish, ;D).

If you don't do it (get the job) someone else will.

Marty

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by cootie on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:21pm
Bid ta git the job and "not ta loose it"....then create a typo error on the package stateing the first years supply is free....then put the co. addy yer dealin with underneath. I'm so mean but I'd screw em till they walk sideways Pam

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by CathiP on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:42pm
Let's see:

A nice jing-jing in your pocket
                   VS
looking for another job to bid

Your reputation as a company that charges fair prices for top-notch work
                   VS
a reputation as a company that overprices
(which relates to your professionalism)

Factor in the high likelihood that this project will NOT affect their bottom line, most likely the money has already been apportioned for this project, consequently, the extra that you might collect if you get the job with a higher-than-necessary bid, and the bubble just burst.
                   IT WON'T HURT THEM TO PAY
Will it hurt you to miss out on this opportunity? Could it lead to more jobs in the future?
 Take the high road, Jonny......you're obviously excellent at what you do, and you should be paid well- give them a reason to call you back AGAIN & AGAIN.

"course, dating the CEO's daughter might be a bit of a payback!! :o
I hope you have the winning bid, Jonny!
Cathi

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by jonny on Apr 24th, 2003, 7:53pm
Thanks folks, I really wanted to run this by the family seeing it had to do with the bastards.

I will submit my original bid but I will bend them over like Jimbo says, I can do this very easy.

Ted, when I say friday delivery, I never said which friday......(New contract, they pay half up front....LOL)

Second half is where I can fuck them, they need it so bad to get an occupancy permit they will lick you......LMMFAO!!!!! ;D

Thanks for the advice, my family ;D

...........................jonny


Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by ShariRae on Apr 24th, 2003, 8:05pm
Just remember your Trojan jonny!!   hehhe
Shari

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Brian_Y on Apr 24th, 2003, 8:17pm
Take the job, but draaaaggg it out, be like bureaucracy guy from hell.  It'll end up costing them more money anyway, but their corporate culture will see it as status quo.

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2003, 8:33pm
Bid high... but not so high that you don't get the job. You can then feel good knowing they were fucked by a clusterhead!

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by BruceD on Apr 24th, 2003, 8:59pm
Hey Jonny,

I'm late to the topic but I'd second Jimbo ... gotta run "upright". Give 'em that honest quote and when they need changes ... they gotta know that costs dinero. The only work of yours I've seen was that ladder and I must say ... whatever your bid is for, they're getting their money worth.

Nice work man.

Later
BruceD

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by kissmyglass on Apr 24th, 2003, 9:03pm
yea, try not to lose the job. After they sign on the dotted line I'm sure the Clusterheads will think up lots of good ways to screw em....

Kev

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by don on Apr 24th, 2003, 9:05pm

Quote:
The only work of yours I've seen was that ladder


You should see the giant crack pipe.

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by andy on Apr 24th, 2003, 9:26pm
Dude, take the job. Buy lots of imitrex  ...............andy

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Anthem on Apr 24th, 2003, 9:34pm
Hey Bud-- I think you are on the right track. Bid normally, get the contract, and then do what you can without doing too much that they get pissed.  Remember, there may be multiple contracts here, and if you do damn good work, they may come back to you again and again...  think LONG TERM fucking here Bro! :)  Instead of a one night stand--think marriage!

Clark

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Charlie on Apr 25th, 2003, 12:11am
Take the job
Take the money
Take the pills
Take your time

Tell them when they ask why you're taking so long, that it's because you're only following their instructions on the box about operating heavy machinery. Anything that happens to you while taking a chance by doing the work will be their fault.  :D

Charlie

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by cbolony on Apr 25th, 2003, 2:47am
Jonny I hope you get the bid the money is better off in your pocket then someone else

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by SommelierCH on Apr 25th, 2003, 2:59am
Well $hit. That’s the problem with working nights, by the time I get home (it was early tonight, 12:45 am) and want to reply to a post, all the good lines are taken. So, I will pretend that this is the first reply, and just trip out on my own.

Have you tried oxygen? (sorry, wrong thread)

Dudester,

The problem is not with the maker of Zomig, the problem is that insurance will only cover 6 pills a month. Do you have insurance? I was just thinking that you’ve had these fuckers for so long, it’s probably always been, in their minds, a “pre-existing condition”.

I got this advice when I was kind of in the same dilemma. Back when I was doing television commercials, I got cast in a couple of McDonalds spots. I was a vegetarian at the time and quite the “hippie environmentalist” (gave up the car, and rode a bicycle for 10 years). I just did not feel “right” doing these commercials. An older actor friend said, “Do the commercial, take the money and eat somewhere else. That’s the best revenge”.

So bid conservatively, get the job (we are all rooting for you on this one, you deserve it, bro) and switch to Maxalt MLT 10mg. I consider them equal.   ;D

Peace and PFDAN,
David J.

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by SommelierCH on Apr 25th, 2003, 3:10am
I just looked at your Zomig package again, and see that you aren’t using Zomig-ZMT 5mg (the fast dissolving under the tongue tabs, with subcutaneous delivery). You’ve got the regular Zomig 5mg. Clue us in on that choice. My take, is that if you use it as you go to bed (as we’ve talked about before), the half life must be double that of the ZMT, and perhaps protects you farther into the sleep cycle. Since I always get hit 15 min.-2 hours after falling asleep, I want the fast dissolving tabs (half life 1.5 – 3 hours).

Just wondering,
David J.

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Karla on Apr 25th, 2003, 4:23am
Be honest about it.  Two wrongs dont make it right.  You won't feel good in the end if you are dishonest and up the bid or raise it after fact.  Its a nice fantasy but in the end I don't think its the wise thing to do.  

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by BILL_L on Apr 25th, 2003, 5:10am
Hey Jonny

I do work with Astra in Westboro. They are a real pain in the A$$. Check out the billing procedure it's unique.
Are you dealing with Ron C. If you have any questions
either E mail me or call.

                                                   Bill

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Brian_Y on Apr 25th, 2003, 7:32am

Quote:
Be honest about it.  Two wrongs dont make it right.  You won't feel good in the end if you are dishonest and up the bid or raise it after fact.  Its a nice fantasy but in the end I don't think its the wise thing to do.  


Nah....Revenge is a dish best served cold.  And it IS their fault.  How much does the drug cost to make v. what they are selling it for?  PROFITS.  The insurance companies, while no sweethearts, have to hedge a bit...

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by brain_cramps on Apr 25th, 2003, 9:21am

on 04/24/03 at 19:08:59, Ted wrote:
...inform them you can only work two times per day (even if you don't really work the first time) with at least a two hour break in between and you're only going to work six times per month, maximum...

Hilarious, Ted.     LMAO

grant  8)

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by NotH20 on Apr 25th, 2003, 9:25am
Jonny - make a fair bid and enjoy the money in your pocket.  

I think you should sweet-talk some of the female employees, which I'm sure you can do  ;)  Then see if you can get some samples - we could sell then on the OUCH site to the highest bidder - which is probably cheaper than what we can get thru our insurance company.  We could turn this into a money-making project for OUCH.  Of course you could keep as many as you want as a finders fee LOL

Just my 2 cents worth here.

Good luck - keep us posted,
Mia

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by echo on Apr 25th, 2003, 9:55am
Jonny,  even tho you would like to "rip em a new one" with an inflated bid, I know you are not that type of business person, or you would have been out of business years ago.  Place the original bid and wait for them to do a scope change,  that's where you can make the extra money.  Treating them fair will always keep them coming back to your door for additional work.

Take care bro.  

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Bonniegirl on Apr 25th, 2003, 10:53am
I say, payback's a BITCH ;D. Time for them to get f*cked. (Don't forget a Magnum(non-lube,HA!!),tho, those companies are pretty skankified.)       :-*-Bonniegirl      (Sorry I'm so aggro, I had a shitty nite)

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by jonny on Apr 25th, 2003, 12:51pm

on 04/25/03 at 03:10:43, SommelierCH wrote:
I just looked at your Zomig package again, and see that you aren’t using Zomig-ZMT 5mg (the fast dissolving under the tongue tabs, with subcutaneous delivery). You’ve got the regular Zomig 5mg. Clue us in on that choice.


David,

No wonder these things taste like SHIT!!!!.....LOL ;D

Doc told me to just let them melt under my tongue, damn things taste worse than a friggin asprin melting in your mouth.

Someone screwed up and I ended up with the wrong kind, the bastards!!!!...Although they do work pretty fast given that their not the right kind ;D

.............................jonny

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Peppermint on Apr 25th, 2003, 1:47pm

on 04/25/03 at 12:51:40, jonny wrote:
No wonder these things taste like SHIT!!!!.....LOL ;D

Doc told me to just let them melt under my tongue, damn things taste worse than a friggin asprin melting in your mouth.

Someone screwed up and I ended up with the wrong kind, the bastards


Jonny man... that's Messed UP. ..I hope you get a new prescription soon - well, at least they wOrk.....

 :-/,  :), :D, :D, ;D, ;D sorry, its just the way you put it...I couldn't help laughing.  I almost choked on a one of those chinese noodle thingies.  

Pepper ;)

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by don on Apr 25th, 2003, 1:55pm
Little problem.

If you fuck the pharm. comp. you should practice safe sex.

If you practice safe sex, you must purchase a condom.


THEY PROBABLY MFG. the CONDOMS !

THEY WIN AGAIN! the bastards

Hey Pep, Must be one happy fuckin Chinaman out there somewhere.  ;D

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by jonny on Apr 25th, 2003, 2:00pm

on 04/25/03 at 13:47:38, Peppermint wrote:
sorry, its just the way you put it...


Well Pep, some here will tell you that I have a potty mouth so I might as well enjoy the taste that goes with it ;D

.................................jonny

Don, do you ever preview your posts? ;D....LMAO...Gottcha!!!!

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by Peppermint on Apr 25th, 2003, 2:12pm

on 04/25/03 at 14:00:44, jonny wrote:
Well Pep, some here will tell you that I have a potty mouth so I might as well enjoy the taste that goes with it ;D


OH WELL Jonny, different strokes for different folks! Made me LMaO.


on 04/25/03 at 13:55:14, don wrote:
Hey Pep, Must be one happy fuckin Chinaman out there somewhere.  ;D


Gee, left myself open for that one didn't I ???  
But I thought I saw a grin.....

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by don on Apr 25th, 2003, 2:13pm
GOTCHA?

No. You didn't have me yesterday, you dont have me today and you wont gotcha me tommorow.

I believe what you meant to say was;

"I want you bad big king pimp daddy"

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by BobG on Apr 25th, 2003, 2:51pm
jonny..........bid the job. If you get it great, take the money and run. Do the job right........they may bring you future jobs.

The price of Zomig ain't going up because of a little $35K job. That's not even walkin-around money for them.

Remember, they could award it to a Frenchman.


Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by cathy on Apr 25th, 2003, 3:14pm

Ahhhh isn't it lovely when the boys flirt with each other on a thread....sweet, really really sweet... :)

Cathy

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by don on Apr 25th, 2003, 3:38pm

Quote:
sweet, really really sweet...  


Bite me.   ;D

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by cathy on Apr 25th, 2003, 3:57pm


                                                                                                             http://www.frinkian.com/images/smiles/new_kodomagnam.gif

Cathy  :P

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by jonny on Apr 25th, 2003, 4:04pm
Eat'em up Cath.....LOL ;D

........................jonny

Title: Duh.......
Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 25th, 2003, 4:28pm

Quote:
Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?

Wouldn't you have more fun with a brunette, and a nice game of chess(t)?

King to Queens level 69,
RJ

Title: Re: Should I fuck this Pharmaceutical Co?
Post by cootie on Apr 25th, 2003, 9:48pm
Cathy what the hell is that thing and what is it eating.......Pillsbury dough boy eatin a baby marshmellow peep ? Ewwwwww it's so good Pam  ;D



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