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Title: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by Not4Hire on Apr 14th, 2003, 10:34am ...hey clusterfolk....here's a link to the latest (easy-to-read) version of the proposed Oxygen button... I invite your commentary on how to make it better..... http://www.maplefallswebdesign.com/misc/oxygen/oxygen.htm Many thanks go out to all who contributed, especially MICH (Mastifflvr28) who was invaluable in making it happen and putting it on her site.....(abrazos!) I'll be taking down the site where I placed the info originally, so update yer Bookmarks/Favorites if ya saved it.... PF to allayez.......Steve(N4H) |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by catlind on Apr 14th, 2003, 1:04pm Hrumph, what I wasn't good enough to put my email on? *pout* ;) The page looks AWESOME N4, kudos to you for all your hard work. Many many thanks :) Cat |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Not4Hire on Apr 14th, 2003, 1:35pm uhhhh...it's Mast's fault?.....nope, MINE.....I'll make sure ya get on the *Final Product*...sorry, me blister with the Magic Wand.... ;D The Julius (me) was bloody elephants..... ;) |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 14th, 2003, 1:47pm Quite a compendium (http://www.maplefallswebdesign.com/misc/oxygen/oxygen.htm )......can see a lot of time, energy, and spell checking went into this. If there's anything you missed, it can't be very important. 4....you are to oxygen, what Picasso is to canvas, what cream cheese is to bagels, what Virgins are to Mary........... Best if read on a full stomach. Thus shall the Readers Digest, RJ |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by don on Apr 14th, 2003, 3:03pm Kudos Not4 You just helped more people than you'll ever know. Fine example of what we are all about. P.S Bite me. |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by ave on Apr 14th, 2003, 3:31pm Great job, Notfer! Just one thingie, the beginning of page 2 looks a bit confusing; could prolly do with some graphical asjustment... But will work well without it. Great job, again! |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Roxy on Apr 14th, 2003, 3:43pm Ya'll have done a hell of a job. This is going to help so many people....you should be very proud. |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Karla on Apr 14th, 2003, 4:19pm May you be blessed as you have blessed others. Great work! |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by jonny on Apr 14th, 2003, 4:35pm MUCH COOLNESS, DUDE!!! ..................jonny |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Mastifflvr28 on Apr 14th, 2003, 8:36pm cat, I'll add ya to the list. AVE...help me out here...where do you think the "medically necessary" form should go. I wanted it somewhere Easily accessable...but your right...shouldn't be at the top of page 2. Anybody got suggestions?? I can change it anyway anyone wants. Suggestions very welcome. Mast |
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Title: ode to O2 2 Post by rumplestiltskin on Apr 14th, 2003, 11:32pm Yea verily I shakest my head as I read the following line repeated over and over again in O2 advise and once again in yers. Quote:
For YEARS now my regulator maxed at 8 lpm has killed countless CHs. It delivers all the O2 as fast as I can breathe it. Some of you people really suck. visualize whirled peas den |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Edna on Apr 15th, 2003, 9:12am WOW.........Thanks to all of you, this is just great for us that want to gather info for O2 use........... :-* :-* Words can tell you how much "I" myself appreciate it, so I'll just tell you how much once I've had the chance to use the O2 with results!!!!!!! (Hopefully, not too soon) You people are great, pf wishes, EDNA |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Mark C on Apr 15th, 2003, 9:18am |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by catlind on Apr 15th, 2003, 10:59am Den, I agree with what you say. The flow probably doesn't matter as much as one's ability to inhale the O2. I personally can empty a 15lpm flow ... but years as a life guard and growing up on a waterway that required one to be underwater for great lengths of time (or be caught by whoever was 'it') has probably given me a great lung capacity. (no comments from the peanut gallery :P) So, I can empty the bag at 15lpm and have to wait for it to refill. I think the AVERAGE for folks is between the 8-12lpm range. Even Slammy will attest to having a greater flow rate. Glad you can get by on 7 though :) Cat |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by ShariRae on Apr 15th, 2003, 8:41pm Great job! I was talking to a fireman & he asked me to bring something printed out so that he can distribute it to the other firehalls in town. This way, any sufferer doesnt even need to explain, all the info is there! I used the info from the link & printed it & took it rght over..and guess what?? It was put on the "911 info board" which is what the firemen & first responders use to keep updated on latest med info..yayy!! Congrats on a job well done:) Shari |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Mastifflvr28 on Apr 16th, 2003, 8:17am That is so cool Shari!! Good job to you! Mast |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by catlind on Apr 16th, 2003, 8:20am That ROCKS Shari!!!!!!! Way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll go to the local firestation today and do the same! Cat |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by ShariRae on Apr 16th, 2003, 1:18pm Thanx guys :) Doin what we gotta do!! He had heard of CH.. but didnt understand what the oxygen protocol was..now they ALL know.. lol YAYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by cootie on Apr 16th, 2003, 1:25pm VERY GOOD JOB on the O2 page.....very nice Not4 and Mast........Good job Pam |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by SommelierCH on Apr 18th, 2003, 9:08am Hip hip, hooray Hip hip, hooray Hip hip, hooray Great job!!! Many people will be helped by your efforts. You both make me proud to be a Clusterhead. David J. |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Not4Hire on Apr 19th, 2003, 9:53am ....just so y'all know: this effort was *successful*(?) due to a buncha people......MrHappy fer his scathing critiques ;) and fer kickin' me in the butt to keep goin'......jonny fer keepin' in contact with DJ and for help *tuning*......the folks that *came before*....the folks that sent me links and info.... I know I'll forget somebody but I want to thank them all... ...now keep spreadin' the WORD and rowin' this boat..... |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Mastifflvr28 on Apr 20th, 2003, 6:34pm UPDATE!!!! I updated the oxygen site, organized some stuff, changed some sizes...should be easier to read and dig through. Again...any suggestions, I'm game. Thanks, Mast http://www.maplefallswebdesign.com/misc/oxygen/oxygen.htm |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Roxy on Apr 20th, 2003, 6:39pm Beautiful work Mast! :) |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by OneEyeBlind on Apr 20th, 2003, 8:21pm Really nice job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Not4Hire on Apr 20th, 2003, 9:02pm A glimpse into The Creative Process......copied&pasted: (from correspondence)....... N4H: Quote:
MrHappy: Quote:
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;D Mich ...it looks fuckin' GREAT....let's *Declare Victory*....and let 'em sort it out best they can.... TMI, huh? |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Mastifflvr28 on Apr 20th, 2003, 9:20pm hey not4...I never gave you permission to post my e-mail!! :) Ya done good Not4! Mast |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by catlind on Apr 21st, 2003, 7:59am Simply Maarrrrrvelous! Darlings!! Looks fantabulous :) Cat |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by jonny on Apr 21st, 2003, 9:58am Ya just gotta love kip's quote on smoking and 02.....LOL ........................jonny |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by miCHel on Apr 21st, 2003, 2:31pm Hey gang! This is truly an O2 Info Bible. I only tried O2 once, at the ER, but it was unsuccesful 'cause they would not go over 6.5 l/min. But I still had faith and the end of this cycle, I finally found a neuro who would prescribe it to me. So now I have the prescription, I know where to get it and, most important, I will know how to use it. Thanks to you, I am ALMOST looking frorward to my next cycle... You guys rock!!! miCHel |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Roxy on Apr 21st, 2003, 4:36pm Okay you 02 guys....I just spent 1 1/2 hrs. in the medical supply store, trying to get medical 02 (or at least the regulator). These are some of the facts the owner of the store stated to me. Thought ya'll might like to hear them. 1. Liquid 02 is cheaper in the long run, because you don't have to fill it as often. 2. You can't use a bubbler if you are breathing at over 7lpm, because you will blow it up. (not the 02, but the bubbler) 3. You need to change your tubing and mask every 3 days. This had to do with getting an "infection" from the dirt. (I told him my dog played with mine....just to see the look on his face) 4. No one can breathe in more air than that which is put out by a 7lpm regulator.....it is a human impossiblity. 5. There is no need for a non-rebreather mask. You get plenty of 02 with a regular mask. (On this he changed his tune after he spoke with my Dr., and yes, he was very surprised) 6. Tried to tell me I needed the big 02 converter for my house. I told him I didn't think so. This point, I'm sure is thrown in to people who don't know better, I'm sure it's a profit maker for them. It was a very interesting visit, because this is what people new to 02 therapy will encounter. If I hadn't learned all I have from this board, I would have assumed he knew what he was talking about. He is a respiratory therapist. This is where ya'lls new 02 page will help so many people. Educating them on what they need, not what someone who is clueless will tell them. Although, he did tell me that they get their 02 from the welding store. Tracey BTW: Those E tanks are terribly small aren't they? |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by Not4Hire on Apr 21st, 2003, 6:32pm ...great post, tracey(rox)!...in order of MIS-information: Quote:
...probably true, bulk rates for most commodities are cheaper... hospitals/ER's use lots of o2 (and charge like Teddy Roosevelt.....) Quote:
...never had it happen to ME, but they told me the same thing when I got mine.... I think it's a CYA deal... Quote:
...LMMO (Laughin' My Mask Off) ...obviously, these guys are PROFIT DRIVEN... they LOVE to sell ya stuff... you should inspect yer RIG and keep it clean... but just soak a cotton swab in denatured alcohol and wipe out the mask.... don't share it with the other CHers in yer house-OR the dog.... and you'll be OK.... probably a good idea to get a new mask, bubbler, and tubing every so often..... Quote:
...then why do they even HAVE regulators that go up to 15 LPM (or more)?... personally, when *I* am huffin', and the bag doesn't fill, I feel like I'm gonna suffocate.... YMMV (sorry, den!) Quote:
...ignorance IS curable... stupidity (like UGLY) is to the BONE..... Quote:
...you got it: *profit maker*... and the converters only deliver about 95% oxygen... good enough as a supplement for people with low blood oxygen (COPD, emphysema, heart/lung problems. etc.) but WE CHeads need as close to 100% o2 as we can get... that's WHY the NON-Rebreather mask..... ....Many thanks for the post... it should go onto the *Nuggets* part of the page..... ...did ya ask the *respiratory therapist* how many clusterheads he had experience with? 8) |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by jonny on Apr 21st, 2003, 6:40pm LOL....Not4 My bubbler has a pressure relief thingy and the needle on my gage goes beyound 15......the thingy has never popped. .............................jonny |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by 2late on Apr 21st, 2003, 6:43pm you da man not.......great job 'bro!! ...............Jack |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....latest ver. of proto-button--READ TH Post by catlind on Apr 22nd, 2003, 6:18am on 04/21/03 at 16:36:50, Roxy wrote:
Interesting, I dunno if mine even has one of them pressure thingies on it but the healthcare company had no problem giving it to me with the 15lpm regulator and it's never blown up :) Quote:
Very interesting. Can't say I've ever gotten an infection from the same mask. Even after my 2 year old plays with it (can you say GERMS). I'm sure changing the water in your bubbler is a good idea (I think it turned a little slimey in my bubbler after a month hehe) Quote:
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! Once again I've done the impossible!!!! ;) I can breathe in the 15lpms with no trouble. And I wait for the bag to refill. Guess that's what you get for underwater training as a lifeguard. Quote:
Shit, this guy could be downright dangerous to someone who needs to know how O2 operates. NO ambient air for Chead. Quote:
Don't know what one of them is :) Certainly sounds like someone who's money hungry and doesn't know squat about the entire customer base of his business. I'm sure if you have emphysema you might not breathe more than 7 lpm, but no one? Humanly impossible? ::) Jonny, this guy needs a visit ;) LOL Fortunate for us we've got gurus and a great info page :) Cat |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by andy on Apr 29th, 2003, 10:32pm This Thread went to page 2 02 RULES!!!! BUMP |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by BruceD on Apr 30th, 2003, 9:00am Great job guys! I just read through the page in detail and laughed and laughed at drummer's Cluster Safety Kit. (Maybe it should be duplicated on the Safety With O2 page - with a highlight for guys to read ;D ) In my first post here, I was feeling lousy from a long battle with the beast and Mr. Happy said the following: on 01/09/03 at 13:53:42, Mr.Happy wrote:
Can't say much more than that. Thanks for being here! BruceD |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by andy on May 1st, 2003, 8:34pm WE need the button!!!!!!! Bumphttp://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL154/1008592/1880398/24505603.jpg |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by Frank on May 1st, 2003, 11:49pm Hey DJ!..... where is the button? |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by Drk^Angel on May 1st, 2003, 11:57pm Damn... Give DJ a chance... From what I've heard, DJ is a bit of a buzy man. He'll take care of it when he can... Until then, we'll just make sure that this thread don't fade away. PFDAN................................ Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by Drk^Angel on May 3rd, 2003, 10:13pm Bump... PFDAN................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: OXYGEN....Head hurt?--READ THIS!! Post by andy on May 5th, 2003, 12:13am Im all alone on this board tonite. I hope that means that everybody is OK!!! Speed Bump!!! ............andy |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by andy on May 7th, 2003, 6:54pm Not4, Great work dude!! it was a good idea to change the title. LOL. Slammy got more reads in 2 days on his other post than many others have had ever!! Thanks to Pam. We will just have to keep bumping this thread till the new button arrives. Maybe the next title should be something about lesbians, porn or something for free! Thanks again ...............andy |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by Slammy on May 7th, 2003, 7:25pm Quote:
Sheeeeeit! looks like I am $1200 in the hole and countin! ;D Great Job, Steve! I want residuals! :D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by Not4Hire on May 7th, 2003, 7:49pm EVERYbuddy wants *residuals*.....heh.... but what ya GET is *residue*...... (look-it-up-Pam-coots) ;D ;D ;D http://dictionary.reference.com/ ...when-ya-wanna-be-correct-before-ya-post-Steve-N-4-H...... ;D |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by Mastifflvr28 on May 7th, 2003, 7:49pm I......WANT......MY..............TWO DOLLARS!!!!!!! ("Better Off Dead") :) Mast |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by OneEyeBlind on May 7th, 2003, 9:01pm As always, you put a smile on my face. I don't even want the $2.00 !!! LOL. You guys are doing a bang up job and words will never express how proud and happy I am that you took the time to help those who aren't "in the know" !!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by cootie on May 7th, 2003, 9:35pm residue: That which remains..........I don't ever spell normal purposely 'so there' Pam |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by brain_cramps on May 7th, 2003, 9:37pm on 05/07/03 at 21:35:07, cootie wrote:
Aha!!! I KNEW IT!!! grant 8) |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by Margi on May 7th, 2003, 9:45pm hey, it ain't easy spelling the way Cootie does. I think it takes great talent, actually ;) Cootie-ish is a language all unto itself. I gotta say that Cootie really handled herself well through all the turmoil today/yesterday. I think she should win the 'Tude of the Week. What could have easily turned into a slug-fest, she deftly turned into smiles even though it was a little close to the edge at times. I don't think I've EVER seen anyone here try so hard to change the subject - distraction by showing folks a picture of a dragon before. Way to go Pam! You've definately got the right mindset to be a cluster supporter, gal! I'm with Ted - I respect BOTH Slammy and Pam. not pickin sides Margi (there. I did it. :P) |
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Title: Re: Got TWOdollar$ if ya read this...Slammy's payi Post by Not4Hire on May 9th, 2003, 6:24pm ..just yer friendly daily bump... 'til DJ gets his 'puter resurrected.... and some time to make a button/link... ...hope y'all don't need to use this info..... Steve(N4H) ...gonna keep this on the first page.... 'cuz that's ALL I do... |
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Title: Re: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by oringkid on May 9th, 2003, 7:18pm Just a thought, but, Margi, can you "stick" this or perhaps a new short thread with the link to the top? If not this board then maybe the med board? Just thought it might be easier till the button is available? Sherry |
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Title: Re: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by Margi on May 9th, 2003, 7:32pm I SO wish I could, Sherry, but I can only do that kind of stuff over at the supporters' corner. I hear rumours that DJ's 'puter is pooched, but I'm sure that he'll make this a button as soon as he's able. If I could, though - I'd also change the name of the thread now....to THE BEST THREAD EVER!! Way to go Steve et al!! Sure wish this stuff was around when we started clusterin' in our house! AWESOME job gang! :) p.s. Steve - you're only 5 hours south of me.... p.p.s. but we CAN all keep posting to this thread to keep it near the top....ahem!!! |
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Title: Re: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by oringkid on May 9th, 2003, 7:47pm Thanks, I kinda figured... But hey, Steve could you change the title to something like New Oxygen Info Page. That way people can look for it and until it gets a button we can keep bumpin it. Actually, even better would be to start a new thread (shorter) called New Oxygen Info Page with the link on it and we can all keep it up. Another question... I've never paid attention. If you go in and modify your post will it come up to the top? Sherry |
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Title: Re: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by Not4Hire on May 9th, 2003, 9:52pm sherry.... Quote:
i've already gone ta sleep.... ya gotta hook 'em..... DISGUSTING DONKEY PORNO ........ but I would NEVER stoop so , , , , , , , , , , , , ,LOW ;D |
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Title: Re: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by andy on May 13th, 2003, 12:00am N4H, This bumps for you!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D; ;D |
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Title: Re: Most Annoying Post(er) Ever.... Post by KingOfPain on May 13th, 2003, 2:27am ok,.....bump. KOP |
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