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(Message started by: Georgia on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:04am)

Title: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Georgia on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:04am
Once upon a time, before I ever found this place, there was a ch'er who came to the old message board. He called himself Dally Ho. He spoke of a treatment that was anything but conventional.  He found that rubbing apple cider vinegar on his arms, neck, back, and chest while holding a hunk of bleu cheese under his tongue would abort his clusters in a very short amount of time.

Den read his remedy, and like many of us, was desperate for relief and was willing to try anything. He tried the bleu cheese and vinegar treatment, and to his surprise, it aborted three cluster attacks for him.

My head has not been good lately. I have been getting hit everynight and every morning all week. About an hour ago, my nightly attack started building quickly. Den asked me if I was ready to try the bleu cheese treatment yet. I said "sure", while thinking, "yeah right, that's gonna work....at least it will be an interesting and smelly attack".

He sat me down, made me put a large "plug" of bleu cheese under my tongue to let it dissolve, and started rubbing vinegar all over my back, arms, and chest. There are very few things that have ever worked well for aborting my clusters...very few...Imitrex works 2/5 times, O2 works about 50% of the time, etc, so my hopes were anything but high. Within seconds of starting this, the congestion in my one nostril disappeared completely. And the cluster itself? Stopped in it's tracks within minutes, as in under 10 minutes without meds, without pacing, without screamin, without crying, without wanting to die. Totally and completely aborted faster and with less pain than ever before. I know how ridiculous this sounds, but I am dead serious.

I was in the shower in less than 15 minutes of the beginning of this attack, washing the vinegar off...pain free. Not sore. Not shadowing. PAIN FREE!!!  I still feel muted, wasted, as though I just got done fighting the beast for hours...with one big difference...my head doesn't hurt.

I know Den has posted about this on here before, and that there have been jokes made about it, but I come to you now, in total amazement and gratitude....it really fucking worked. I know it was only one attack..but I can't think of anything else that has ever worked so quickly for me, so completely. It's cheap, there are no nasty side-effects, no chance of stopping your heart, etc. I don't know how it works or why it works or if it will work again. All I can say is, you have got to try it!! It surely can't hurt you, and shit, you might even get as lucky as I did and stop a cluster...imagine...the beast...lying cold, dead...from a little bleu cheese and vinegar.

If anyone else tries it, please let me know if it worked for you and I will let you know how it works on my next attack.

Peace and love and loving bleu cheese and vinegar right now,
Georgia

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by amber on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:09am
holy shit
that's a new one :)  I'm definitely gonna try it.  And if anyone laughs at you I'll kick their ass ;)
amber

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by catlind on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:15am
Hmmm wonder what it is in the ingredients and chemical reaction in the body that makes it work.

Definitely something to discuss at the convention.  Perhaps one of the docs might be able to make a minor connection and launch some research into why it worked.

Vedy Vedy interesting!

I have been willing to try anything, so I'm not going to laugh.  Wonder if it is something to do with the mold in the cheese??  Georgia, would you be willing to try it with just the bleu cheese?  For research sake?

Cat

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by don on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:24am
"Sweet fancy Moses? Isn't he some relation to "Holy bald headed Christ" ?  LOL

I'd leave the vinegar on. Keep the annoying "oh its just a headache" morons away.

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Roxy on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:27am

on 04/12/03 at 00:09:08, amber wrote:
holy shit
 And if anyone laughs at you I'll kick their ass ;)


Let me add another holy shit to that.  Georgia, I am so glad that worked for you.  Get Den to purchase stock in blue cheese and vinegar.  That is the coolest thing.....I have been so worried about your head.

Kudos Den.....you're a special man.

Here's hoping it works over and over for you girl!!   ;D

Tracey

BTW, bet Den just hated rubbing that on your chest.. ;) :) :-*

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Georgia on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:42am

Quote:
Wonder if it is something to do with the mold in the cheese??  Georgia, would you be willing to try it with just the bleu cheese?  For research sake?


Cat - Sure. I plan on trying it both ways...once with just the vinegar and once with just the bleu cheese. I really think it was the smell of the vinegar that first cleared my nostril. Maybe it's the combo of the two....but I will try them apart and let you know.


Quote:
And if anyone laughs at you I'll kick their ass
Thank you, Amber. You are a sweetheart. I am not really all that worried about people laughing at me....I aborted a cluster tonight..super fast and super easy, not something to scauf at in my opinion.


Quote:
I'd leave the vinegar on. Keep the annoying "oh its just a headache" morons away.  
Yes, Don, but then they may just think I had that "not so fresh feeling". ;)


Quote:
Kudos Den.....you're a special man.
I can't agree more, Rox. He has gone from sweetman, to hero, to a true angel in my eyes. Love...ahhh...love has never...uhh..smelled so bad. :)

It has been over two hours now since the attack started, and I am still pain free....miracles really do happen.

In awe,
G

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by don on Apr 12th, 2003, 12:56am
If wearing a clown suit with a condom on my head while juggling fish in church aborted one I'd do it with out much notice to peoples reactions.

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by WeezohKnows on Apr 12th, 2003, 1:18am
Hey Georgia!

Do they have blue cheese at circle k?  I am on my way.
I truly believe it has everything to do with the vinegar rub-er-inner that helps with this treatment.
Seriously, I am happy for you and I really am going to give this a try.

Pain-Freeness to you!
Piper

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Roxy on Apr 12th, 2003, 11:14am

on 04/12/03 at 00:56:42, don wrote:
If wearing a clown suit with a condom on my head while juggling fish in church aborted one I'd do it with out much notice to peoples reactions.


Even if it didn't get rid of your ch, you might make some money.  I know I'd pay to watch that!    ;D ;)

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by brain_cramps on Apr 12th, 2003, 11:18am

on 04/12/03 at 00:56:42, don wrote:
If wearing a clown suit with a condom on my head while juggling fish in church aborted one I'd do it with out much notice to peoples reactions.

Lemme know when and where.   This i gotta see!!!    :o ;D

grant  8)

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by jonny on Apr 12th, 2003, 1:38pm

on 04/12/03 at 00:56:42, don wrote:
If wearing a clown suit with a condom on my head while juggling fish in church aborted one I'd do it with out much notice to peoples reactions.


What!!?

No midget's?

.......................jonny

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by cbolony on Apr 12th, 2003, 3:26pm
Georgia i use to put vinegar and water in coffee cup heat in the microwave and put it by my nose and start sniffing the vapors sometimes it worked for the low kips not 7-10.I still do it once in a while

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Charlie on Apr 12th, 2003, 7:42pm
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Nice going G & Wizend friend......  :D

I'm with Don. Whatever works.

Sounds better than my thing anyway.

Charlie

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Bob P on Apr 13th, 2003, 8:09am
I bet rubbing vinegar on your chest Georgia would stop one of Den's headaches.

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Mark C on Apr 13th, 2003, 2:14pm
Vinegar!     (http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/AC/acetic_acid.html)


Physical data
Melting point: 16.7 C
Boiling point: 118 C
Specific gravity: 1.05
Vapour density 2.07
Vapour pressure 11 mm Hg at 20 C
Flash point: 40 C
Explosion limits: 4% - 16%
Ignition temperature 426 C


I would like to see Ueli do a synopsis (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=synopsis) on this.

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Georgia on Apr 13th, 2003, 7:34pm
Update:

I searched the web yesterday looking for info on apple cider vinegar. I found that it is proclaimed to cure everthing form shingles and baldness to sore throats and osteoporosis. I decided to start drinking 2 Tablespoons a day, for good measure. Maybe it will work as a preventative too?

Yesterday: My shadow started rising into an attack. I drank 2 T of the apple cider vinegar....the shadow stopped. No more attacks all day.

Today: Drank my 2 T at 2:30pm. Started a left-sided (I normally get hit on the right side...the lefties are always my killer 10's) attack at 7:20pm. Chugged a cup of coffee.  Put the bleu cheese under my tongue and rubbed vinegar all over my upper torso and face. (den was napping)  By 7:25, CH was gone. No shadows remained. It is now 7:49 and I feel congestion starting in one nostril again and tightness in my neck. I am going to go try more of the same. Will let you know.

This is just too fucking amazing. I would love to know if anyone has an explanation for this or if anyone else has tried it yet. And if you haven't...why the hell not???  :)

Here is what I found about vinegar, BTW. I know it sounds like snake-oil.....but I honestly don't give a damn.  I am typing this right now because it stopped another ch for me.

"For centuries people have known drinking apple cider vinegar makes them feel
better. Now scientists know why! Apple Cider Vinegar contains
cholesterol-reducing pectin and the perfect balance of 19 minerals,
including potassium, phosphorus, chlorine, sodium, magnesium, calcium
sulfur, iron, fluorine and silicon. In fact, apple cider vinegar contains 93
different components that can help you body. It is also often used in colon
and intestinal cleansing formulas.  

Peace and love and strange rubbings.
Georgia

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 13th, 2003, 8:00pm
G.,
Your apple cider foray rings a resonant chord, one that has interested me w/o reply:Brown Apples (http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1042916652)
If a snake needs oil.........

Pass the 5W/30,
RJ

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Not4Hire on Apr 13th, 2003, 8:19pm
G/Hap....i am sure your research has led down some paths that only the braver among us have tread.....but are you sure that these avenues are ....safe? ....seriously, there are folks who have ...allergies....and pre-existing conditions....and ...other ailments best left to the medical profession to diagnose and treat....

...just trying to err on the side of caution.....

Steve(N4H)

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Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Frank on Apr 13th, 2003, 8:53pm

on 04/13/03 at 20:00:24, Mr.Happy wrote:
G.,
Your apple cider foray rings a resonant chord, one that has interested me w/o reply:Brown Apples (http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1042916652)
If a snake needs oil.........

Pass the 5W/30,
RJ

I see by clicking a link on your profile page that you are a Minister of the Universal Life Church http://www.drfeller.com/clustology/godman.html . Now what was it you were trying to say?

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Mr.Happy on Apr 13th, 2003, 11:56pm

on 04/13/03 at 20:19:39, Not4Hire wrote:
G/Hap....i am sure your research ** safe? ....seriously, there are folks who have ...allergies....and pre-existing conditions....and ...other ailments....
..just trying to err on the side of caution.....
Steve(N4H)


Mate.....with the MASS QUANTITIES Of Expensive and Colorful Medications We Take.........if Brown Apples and Cider Vinegar does a human in....then Darwin has made his point. I'm for all people, in all ways, in all things........ but really..........I should be in the _Front_ of the selective thinning line.....

Herd it thru the Grapevine,
RJ

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Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Not4Hire on Apr 14th, 2003, 1:16am
ok then....NOT

Quote:
....seriously....
....happy?  ;D

(well, of COURSE you are.....)

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by catlind on Apr 14th, 2003, 9:09am
Sheesh and I thought cockney rhyming slang was bad.  You 3 (Frank, N4, Hap) have completely lost me! LOL

Georgia, I'm so glad this is working for you.  I am off to buy some bleu cheese today :)

Cat

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by Bob P on Apr 14th, 2003, 9:31am
Hap,

See the last treatment listed on this page:

http://www.clusterheadaches.org/resources/non_script_treat.htm

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by TomM on Apr 14th, 2003, 11:34am
I'm officially a Blue Cheese and Apple Cider distributor. Please send all requests to tgmeyer@msn.com
Thanx.
Tom  ;)

Title: Re: Sweet fancy moses....it actually works!!!
Post by BruceD on Apr 14th, 2003, 12:09pm
What! That can't possibly work. After all, there's no prescription necessary, no wait for the doctor apt, no fighting with an insurance company, no limits on the amount of "meds" you can get, no legal issues, no nasty side effects ... where's the fun in a treatment like that? ;D  :P  ;D

Now, pass the bleu cheese please...

Later
BruceD



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