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(Message started by: SommelierCH on Jan 18^th, 2003, 8:48am)

Title: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 18^th, 2003, 8:48am

This is for the people who emailed me with questions about wine. Most of the questions were about big, red wines, so here the Cabernet Sauvignon selections from my wine list, this week. I bought extra 1997 California Cabs after I tasted the 1998’s on release. I taste all the wines before I will add them to the list, so everything here is at least good, if not outstanding. You probably won’t find many 1997’s hanging around so look for 1999 for CA reds. In general, pass on the 1998’s (year of the El Nino, cool, cloud cover and rain). I am swamped with work, but I will eventually try to get to individual answers. Yes, the wines are expensive on this list, but I am in Downtown Beverly Hills….. you know, “Why pay less”.

Uh..this doesn't translate well to the MB. Price is the last number.

CABERNET SAUVIGNON AND BLENDS

400 Chateau Souverain, Alexander Valley 1998 32 8
401 Kunde, Sonoma 1998 48 12
403 Honig, Napa Valley 1998 49
404 Stonestreet, Alexander Valley 1997 68
402 Jordan, Sonoma County 1998 78
405 De Loach, "OFS", Russian River Valley 1997 85
406 Cakebread Cellars, Napa Valley 1999 85
408 Cakebread Cellars, Napa Valley 1997 119
409 Pepperbridge, Walla Walla Valley, Washington 1999 91
415 Beaulieu Vineyards, "Georges de Latour, Private Reserve", Napa Valley 1984 218
416 Beaulieu Vineyards, "Georges de Latour, Private Reserve", Napa Valley 1980 218
412 Groth, Oakville, Napa Valley 1999 95
454 Groth, "Reserve", Oakville, Napa Valley 1997 270
448 York Creek Vineyards, "Spring Mountain District", Napa Valley 1997 95
407 Lancaster, "Reserve", Alexander Valley 1999 100
413 Constant, "Diamond Creek Mountain Vineyard", Napa Valley 1997 110
414 Pine Ridge Winery, "Howell Mountain", Napa Valley 1997 110
417 Flora Springs, "Trilogy", Napa Valley 1999 110
418 Flora Springs, "Trilogy", Napa Valley 1998 120
456 Steltzner Vineyards, "Stags Leap District", "Reserve", Napa Valley 1999 115
419 Del Dotto, Napa Valley 1997 115
410 Chateau St. Jean, "Cinq Cepages", Sonoma County 1998 115
420 Chateau St. Jean, "Cinq Cepages", Sonoma County 1997 145
451 Dyer, "Diamond Mountain", Napa Valley 1996 115
422 Silver Oak, Alexander Valley 1998 120
424 Silver Oak, Alexander Valley (1.5 L) 1997 Mag. 355
426 Silver Oak, Napa Valley (1.5 L) 1997 Mag. 450
430 Silver Oak, Napa Valley (1.5 L) 1996 Mag. 525
438 Hourglass, Napa Valley 1998 120
439 Hourglass, Napa Valley 1997 165
440 Jarvis, "Lake William", Napa Valley 1997 122
445 Jarvis, Napa Valley 1997 155
449 Kendall-Jackson, "Stature", Napa Valley 1997 165
450 Heitz Cellars, "Bella Oaks", Napa Valley 1997 145
455 Heitz Cellars, "Martha's Vineyard", Napa Valley 1997 254
464 Heitz Cellars, "Martha's Vineyard", Napa Valley 1987 390
465 Heitz Cellars, "Martha's Vineyard", Napa Valley 1986 395
457 Beringer, "Private Reserve", Napa Valley 1997 140
458 Beringer, "Private Reserve", Napa Valley 1996 175
459 Beringer, "Private Reserve", Napa Valley 1994 245
466 William Hill, "Aura", Napa Valley 1997 185
467 Chateau Montelena, "Estate", Napa Valley 1998 145
421 Robert Mondavi, "Reserve", Napa Valley 1997 190
423 Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley 1997 165
900 Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley 1995 280
901 Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley 1993 321
902 Niebaum-Coppola, "Rubicon", Napa Valley 1990 385
903 Sterling Vineyards, "Reserve", Napa Valley 1997 188
904 Caymus, Napa Valley 1999 120
460 Caymus, Napa Valley 1997 188
463 Caymus, "Special Selection", Napa Valley 1997 375
446 Caymus, "Special Selection", Napa Valley 1994 625
447 Caymus, "Special Selection", Napa Valley 1987 662
905 Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Fay", Napa Valley 1999 172
906 Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "S.L.V.", Napa Valley 1999 172
907 Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Cask 23", Napa Valley 1999 260
908 Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Fay", Napa Valley (375 ml.) 1997 Half 127
909 Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "S.L.V.", Napa Valley (375 ml.) 1997 Half 127
910 Stags Leap Wine Cellars, "Cask 23", Napa Valley (375 ml.) 1997 Half 152
427 Far Niente, Napa Valley 1997 220
428 Silverado, "Limited Reserve", Napa Valley 1997 175
911 Simi, "Reserve", Alexander Valley 1997 175

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Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 18^th, 2003, 8:49am

CABERNET SAUVIGNON AND BLENDS, CONTINUED

461 Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Insignia",Napa Valley 1998 186
462 Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Insignia",Napa Valley 1999 186
431 Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Eisele Vineyard", Napa Valley 1985 287
912 Joseph Phelps Vineyards, "Insignia",Napa Valley (1.5 L.) 1999 Mag. 385
429 Kalin Cellars, "Reserve", Sonoma County 1992 190
452 Spring Mountain Vineyard, "Reserve", Napa Valley 1997 255
453 Grgich Hills, "Yountville Selection", Napa Valley 1994 260
432 Cardinale, Napa/Sonoma 1999 220
913 Opus One, Napa Valley (375ml.) 1998 Half 120
435 Opus One, Napa Valley (375ml.) 1995 Half 155
436 Opus One, Napa Valley (375ml.) 1994 Half 170
914 Opus One, Napa Valley 1998 220
928 Opus One, Napa Valley 1997 270
915 Opus One, Napa Valley 1995 320
916 Opus One, Napa Valley 1993 320
917 Opus One, Napa Valley 1992 340
918 Opus One, Napa Valley 1991 355
919 Opus One, Napa Valley (1.5 L.) 1996 Mag. 835
920 Opus One, Napa Valley (3 L.) 1996 Db. Mg. 1812
921 Diamond Creek, "Volcanic Hill", Napa Valley 1997 275
922 Diamond Creek, "Gravelly Meadow", Napa Valley 1997 275
923 Diamond Creek, "Red Rock Terrace", Napa Valley 1997 275
924 Diamond Creek, "Gravelly Meadow", Napa Valley 1993 275
441 Diamond Creek, "Volcanic Hill", Napa Valley 1991 295
442 Dominus, "Napanook Vineyard", Napa Valley 1985 287
443 Dunn, Napa Valley 1985 287
444 Dunn, "Howell Mountain", Napa Valley 1987 425
925 Ridge, "Monte Bello", California 1992 315
926 Ridge, "Monte Bello", California 1991 330
927 Ridge, "Monte Bello", Santa Cruz Mountains 1990 355
425 Z.D., "Abacus", Napa Valley (Solera style, Reserve Vintages 1992-1999) M.V. 432

471 Chateau Brane-Cantenac, Margaux 1982 212
472 Chateau Palmer, Margaux 1986 287
473 Chateau Margaux, Margaux 1995 950
474 Chateau Talbot, St. Julien 1982 315
475 Chateau Cos-D'Estournel, St. Estephe 1996 205
476 Chateau Cos d' Estournel, St. Estephe 1995 220
477 Chateau Cos-D'Estournel, St. Estephe 1982 430
478 Chateau Haut Brion, Graves 1978 450
479 Chateau Haut Brion, Graves 1985 460
480 Chateau Lynch Bages, Pauillac 1996 150
481 Chateau Lynch-Bages, Pauillac 1988 225
482 Chateau Pichon-Longueville-Baron, Pauillac 1995 185
483 Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac 1976 495
484 Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac 1978 425
485 Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac 1985 410
487 Chateau Lafite Rothschild, Pauillac 1989 455
488 Chateau Mouton Rothschild, Pauillac 1982 1295
489 Chateau Latour, Pauillac 1975 475
490 Chateau Latour, Pauillac 1982 1390

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by rick on Jan 20^th, 2003, 2:31am

on 01/18/03 at 08:48:22, SommelierCH wrote:

In general, pass on the 1998’s (year of the El Nino, cool, cloud cover and rain).

David,

Is this a result of the weather altering what you or others were expecting from these wines in terms of their characteristics, or did El Nino damage their overall quality?

-R

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 20^th, 2003, 2:44am

Can anyone answer this question?

Who gives a fuck!!!!!

...............jonny

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by rick on Jan 20^th, 2003, 2:51am

Jonny,

When you deal with wine for a living, it's interesting.

Next we'll talk about lube oil so that we can keep your attention.

;DR

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 20^th, 2003, 2:57am

Sorry Rick......I dont do oil

......................jonny

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by Linda_Howell on Jan 20^th, 2003, 5:06am

I do.....use a lot of oil that is..However between Cathi's Corvette and my Merc. hmmmmmmm no telling how much oil we use on monthly basis. I say it's time to have a glass of wine instead. How about you Cathi?

Linda

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by Charlie on Jan 20^th, 2003, 6:41am

Thanks. I learn something every day.

Theres nothing like a good can of wine.

Charlie

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jmorgan52 on Jan 20^th, 2003, 7:59am

In wine there is wisdom
In beer there is strength
in water there is bacteria

German proverb

PS thanks Jonny for making me laugh

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 7:00am

Jonny, The damn stuff gets you real warm and drunk, and makes women DOUBLE-JOINTED!!! But it’s frigging expensive and not all of it is good. Sooo….people follow the weather cycles during growing season, just like any other crop. Wine is made in the land, by the farmers and growers, not in the winery by the winemaker.

Rick, In 1998, El Nino changed the weather pattern in CA (below Mendocino) from a sunny, hot, dry summer and fall, to cloudy, cool, moist. Cloudy and cool were the killers. Grapes with thick skins like cabernet sauvignon need heat and sunlight to fully ripen. 1998 produced a lot of under ripe, green, herbaceous flavors, like green bell pepper, canned peas, asparagus etc. not the flavors I’m looking for in a red wine. Some wineries knew their land and compensated for the weather and made good red wines, but in general (especially since the 1999’s are out) stay away from 1998 CA reds.

PFDAN

David J.

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by BobG on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 7:51am

jmorgan..............
the German that said that may have been my Uncle Skeeter. He also said "Water is to wash for underwear in."

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 8:25am

on 01/22/03 at 07:00:40, SommelierCH wrote:

Jonny, The damn stuff gets you real warm and drunk, and makes women DOUBLE-JOINTED!!!

Ill take a case ;D

.............jonny ;D

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 8:46am

Hiya Jonny, what are you doing up so early?

As far as the wine goes, I thought you'd see it that way! ;D

David J. ;D

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by jonny on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 8:55am

on 01/22/03 at 08:46:28, SommelierCH wrote:

Hiya Jonny, what are you doing up so early?

Trying to get an early flight out of this hell hole, its colder here than in Boston.

....................jonny ;)

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by SommelierCH on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 9:04am

Good luck, man. Have a great flight. At least no one-armed bandits got ahold of you. Unless the babe's were missing a limb.

David J.

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by Charlie on Jan 22^nd, 2003, 9:07pm

Hope all goes well with your flight.

Remember to surrender your nail clippers (not dangerous but I guess they don't like you to be annoying :D )

Also, for god's sake don't forget to register your shoes.

Your .357 is probably okay though....

Charlie

Title: Re: WINE LIST: My Cabernet Sauvignon page
Post by rick on Jan 23^rd, 2003, 1:48am

David,

I was just curious as to if the cooler weather would create some Bordeaux like qualities or just plain spoil the batch. Good knowledge to have, Gracias.... 8)

-R