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(Message started by: StanTheMan on Dec 8th, 2002, 9:54am)

Title: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by StanTheMan on Dec 8th, 2002, 9:54am
While they can often provide interesting chat, rhetorical questions (e.g. "Would you trade your CH for migraines?") are often emotionally charged -- as witnessed recently.   And often, the questions (while interesting to consider) are rather pointless.
I mean, we're always going to find people that are better off or worse off than ourselves.
Why compare ourselves?  
A question like:  "Would you, a CH'er, trade places with a quadraplegic?" would generate a wide variety of comments, I'm sure -- but why even ask the question in the first place?  

We are who we are -- all from different walks of life, different parts of the world, and all with very different struggles with a very dibilitating disorder.

Migraine sufferers have their own struggles -- and for any us to walk around with a chip on our shoulder and have a "we have it worse than you" attitude is only going to make us more isolated in the long run.

Folks, the heavy in-fighting that took place between a couple of our "veteran" board members really made me feel sad.  More importantly, it does not make a good impression for newcomers, or can make some visitors become VERY hesitant to post questions.
It's one thing to have disagreement or even somewhat heated exchanges.  It's quite another to start bashing another person's character or do a lot of name calling.

In the future, the people should take their flame throwing "discussion" off-line -- to personal e-mail -- not the MB.

Okay... 'nuff said - I hope.

Prayers,

StanTheMan
:(

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 8th, 2002, 10:15am
So I take it you want to be next, Stan?

For one DORK is not a veteran of this board.

Two......Never compare Meegraines with CH...."We have it worse than you"?....Whats that shit all about?

Do you have CH?, Id give my left nut to have meegraines instead of CH.

This is a CH board and thats that, Meegrainers be gone (Unless they also have CH or support)

Lets party :D

.......................jonny

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by StanTheMan on Dec 8th, 2002, 11:07am
Jonny,

"Never compare Meegraines with CH...."

If you re-read the first part of my post, you'll notice that I asked the question: "Why compare ourselves?"
Meaning: compare my battle with CH with anybody elses
battle in life, whether that be CH's , migraines, cancer, you-name-it.

"Do you have CH?"

Yes, I do.  Episodic since '93.   But that has nothing to do as to why I posted.

My point was (and still is):  

1.  Treat message board posters with dignity and respect.  Be nice.

2.  Take flame wars to personal e-mail.  Please.

3.  Try not to compare your struggles with another person's.  You haven't walked a mile in their shoes anymore that they've walked a mile in yours.

Who disagrees?  

I hope you don't Jonny.
But if you wish to flame me just for tactfully speaking my mind, go ahead.  I'll still treat you the I way I would want to be treated.


Regards to all and best wishes for PFDAN.

StanTheMan

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 8th, 2002, 11:45am

on 12/08/02 at 11:07:34, StanTheMan wrote:
1.  Treat message board posters with dignity and respect.  Be nice.

2.  Take flame wars to personal e-mail.  Please.


I treat people as they treat me.......can you say I dont?

If I have a problem with something on the board I deal with it on the board......Why hide the problem when   everyone should to see it?

.........................jonny

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Roxy on Dec 8th, 2002, 1:06pm
This might be somewhat off topic...but, the topic was rhetorical questions and musing.

Why am I sitting here wasting a perfectly good (but cold) Sunday afternoon watching the Dallas Cowboys play football?  Is this actually football...or Jerry Jones idea of a farce?  I don't expect anyone to give me answers...but, it's like a bad train wreck, you can't quit watching!

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by KingOfPain on Dec 8th, 2002, 1:10pm
StanTheMan posted:

" 1.  Treat message board posters with dignity and respect.
 2.  Take flame wars to personal e-mail.  Please.
 3.  Try not to compare your struggles with another person's.  You haven't walked a mile in their shoes anymore that they've walked a mile in yours. "

&

" More importantly, it does not make a good impression for newcomers, or can make some visitors become VERY hesitant to post questions.
It's one thing to have disagreement or even somewhat heated exchanges.  It's quite another to start bashing another person's character or do a lot of name calling.

In the future, the people should take their flame throwing "discussion" off-line -- to personal e-mail -- not the MB. "


I completely agree Stan. Thank you for your post.

KingOfPain

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Mark C on Dec 8th, 2002, 1:34pm

on 12/08/02 at 13:06:02, Roxy wrote:
This might be somewhat off topic...but, the topic was rhetorical questions and musing.

Why am I sitting here wasting a perfectly good (but cold) Sunday afternoon watching the Dallas Cowboys play football?  Is this actually football...or Jerry Jones idea of a farce?  I don't expect anyone to give me answers...but, it's like a bad train wreck, you can't quit watching!

And I agree with Roxy!


Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 8th, 2002, 1:35pm
Take it to e-mail.....take it to e-mail

Wah!!!!

The real world starts in your face not in e-mail.......LOL

..............................jonny

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by ave on Dec 8th, 2002, 1:37pm
There is a black down side to "always be nice, esp. for the newbies".

It means you never, ever get to say what you feel or mean.
It means agreeing to each and every platitude thrown at you,
just to keep the peace.

Shee it, I hate fights as much as the next gal; even more, maybe. They literally make me sick. But being OBLIGED to be nice to others makes me sick too.

There are moments when not saying what we mean, because of the neighbours newbies is taking away our right to be ourselves.


So choose.

Oh, and having had migraines before and clusters nowadays: Yes, I'd go back to Migraines if I could.

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Slammy on Dec 10th, 2002, 12:23pm
muse this!  
http://www.uselessgraphics.com/flipw.gif


;D




Slammy   8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Peppermint on Dec 10th, 2002, 12:38pm
slamm, ROTFLMAO!!!!! , AhhHH...

:D :-*

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Cathi on Dec 10th, 2002, 1:16pm
Slammy- I think you really need to stop repressing your thoughts......just let it out........ ;D ;D ;D........

>>>>>>>>>I'M GONE!................CATHI

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Slammy on Dec 10th, 2002, 6:13pm
Ok, I can't let this go!   ;D

It just blows me away that someone who's been here less than a couple of months is going to lecture me how to conduct myself on this message board.  Especially with the "holier than thou" approach!  You wanna preach?  go find a preaching board where you guys can go and knock yourself out!

This self- rightious, self- appointed champion, for all the newbies and lurkers out there that need protection from us plainspoken clusterheads is pompus bullsh*t!

If a person is truly sufferin from clusterheadaches, our in-house banter is NOT going to scare them away!  You know why?  Cuz it is not about them, or have anything to do with them! And it's not about you!  

I don't tell anyone how or not how to post!  But if it's posted..it's open game!  just like you, just like me!

Slammy was going on hiatus for a bit..kinda burned out of this "why can't we just get along" crap.  But you know what?  You have inspired me!  I will stick around and post my slammyisms until Deeej tells me that I am not welcome here any more.

MY NAME IS SLAMMY.  AND I SUFFER FROM EPISODIC CLUSTERHEADACHES!  and this is my home!

Slammy Rant is over.. have a nice fucken day!  




Slammy   8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 10th, 2002, 6:19pm
Welcome home, Brother......together we can drive a boot up an ass or two ;D

Dont hate me cause im pretty, hate me cause I have a really big boot :o

Home is where the boot is.

.............................jonny :D

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Jackie on Dec 10th, 2002, 6:24pm
Whew!!!!!!............he's back :D

What would this board be without a 'dumbass' and an 'asswipe'..... ;D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by StanTheMan on Dec 10th, 2002, 6:24pm
Slammy,

Don't know if you saw my post on another thread, but basically I said: "I'm gonna let it drop".  
I'm not going to push a "Let's be nice" agenda, okay?

I had my "say" -- obviously there are those who don't agree, and that's fine.

If you wish to flame me, go ahead.  

StanTheMan

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Slammy on Dec 10th, 2002, 6:28pm

on 12/10/02 at 18:24:58, StanTheMan wrote:
If you wish to flame me, go ahead.  

StanTheMan



I think I just did! Unless I'm losing my touch!  ;D

Consider yourself torched!  let's turn the page!



Slammy   8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 10th, 2002, 6:36pm
Bob Seager, Slam?

.....................jonny :D

Cant we all get along?

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by RevDeFord on Dec 10th, 2002, 7:50pm
Stan,

I agree with the premise in your post, but I do have a problem with it as well.  These guys have been here a long long time more than I have, and more than you have as well.  Even though this is my second go around as I took a year off to vegetate, I still consider myself a guest here.  Ultimately, I do not pay for the board, the hosting, or any of the fringe benefits.  I got majorly flamed my first post back and learned my lesson there.

I try to give encouragement when I can, give humor even when I can't, and close an eye when I have to.

As a result, I may not always be comfortable with the language used, but I can look past that and see some pretty cool people who suffer from the same condition as I do.......

Except for slammy......he is just wrong...    ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by cootie on Dec 10th, 2002, 9:18pm
Does this thread get a red or white flag.....or was it yellow.......or did someone win and get the checker'd flag this time...........

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by pimmony on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:32am
I am a newbie and recently was encouraged to talk more and I embraced that with both tap tappy hands and heart.

I would hate to think that people felt obliged to be nice to me when they felt far from inclined but I also hope that no one would br prejudiced in their behaviour towards me simply because I am new on the forum?

I love when people are really, sincerely, nice to one another but that is born of a really abusive personal history and is subjective.  I have to refight victim behaviour still and that consumes so much energy and effort and I hope not to have to do it is all.  not that I cannot, not that I will not, just I prefer not.

However, I also hope that I am not constrained by parameters either and that I am free to post without having to ingratiate myself.  I want to be the real me too - in fact that is all I can be.

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by pimmony on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:35am
Ohhh one realy important thing I meant to say .....

When people were fighting I was really really confused because people slang each other off in a friendly way and folks with more yang in them seem to even flame quite seriously with affection.

The sad thing is I read those threads and thought that it was a brutal but affectionate flamefest  :-[

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Mark C on Dec 11th, 2002, 7:20am
Nice animation Left Coast!
;D 8) ;D

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by cootie on Dec 11th, 2002, 8:57am
You'll be fine on here long as ya don't steal your spouses meds or change yer name to abruptly......hang tough......sumtimes it's fun talkin to yerself....I do it on here all da time........... ;)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Gani on Dec 11th, 2002, 10:36am
             I agree Stan, But all we can do is skip
       post written by the wannabe bad ass.

                                           8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Slammy on Dec 11th, 2002, 10:48am

on 12/11/02 at 10:36:47, Gani wrote:
             I agree Stan, But all we can do is skip
       post written by the wannabe bad ass.

                                           8)


Or hide behind a new name and snipe from the back row like you?



Slammy   8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Lapsi_Harmaahapsi on Dec 11th, 2002, 10:55am

Quote:
wannabe bad ass


You  mean wannabe dumbass or wannabe asswipe?  ;D
I don't remember anyone claiming to be a vanilla badass.  ???
I'm just a not-very-good smart ass.. does that make me
a bad smart ass?  ;)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by dannyboy on Dec 11th, 2002, 12:25pm
Bunch of blind people the lot of you

The reason Jonny called Drk^ out...

And the reason Margi called Drk^ out ...

And the reason And and And and And either called Drk^ out or hinted at calling him (or others) out ...

Is because, secretly, They, And Drk^...

Are Lion Hunters!

I just wish they'd hunt the Lion they're tracking together for more than 11 seconds, instead of splitting the difference and argueing about the same crap again and again and again, while the Real King roars his mighty head off with laughter and goes and back home to shag Mrs Lion till someone has the courage to come looking for him again.

Well at least they made a start.

They'll get closer next time you fuzzy, mangy, flea bitten, over sized house cat!

Danny

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 11th, 2002, 1:52pm

on 12/11/02 at 10:48:38, Slammy wrote:
Or hide behind a new name and snipe from the back row like you?
Slammy   8)


Touche', my brother.....you could not be more right!!!

......................jonny

Danny, the street lights are on and your mother is calling you, go the fuck home will ya!!

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by dannyboy on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:21pm
Why doesn't he have clusters Jonny?

Tell me and I'll go home and drink my milk

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by dannyboy on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:25pm
Ok Ok Ok Fuck

I'll go

But I'm comming back

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Margi on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:28pm
I want some of what Dannyboy's smokin...

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by echo on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:31pm

on 12/11/02 at 10:48:38, Slammy wrote:
Or hide behind a new name and snipe from the back row like you?

Slammy   8)


I've really got to pay closer attention.  Who was Gani in the past life? little stoned today from last nights dance

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by jonny on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:35pm
We will see, Echo.

DJ, has every ISP # that has passed through here, maybe I can convince him to run some numbers ;D

...............jonny :D

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Jackie on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:45pm

on 12/11/02 at 14:28:42, Margi wrote:
I want some of what Dannyboy's smokin...


No you don't, Margi ;)
What that boy is on renders one ignorant as dog shit ;D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Margi on Dec 11th, 2002, 2:56pm
Good point, Jackie.  




(I just deleted the rest of the paragraph I was typing.  LOL.   Trust me.  Be proud of me for doing that. )


Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Jackie on Dec 11th, 2002, 3:03pm

on 12/11/02 at 14:56:48, Margi wrote:
Be proud of me for doing that. )


I'm always proud of you, Margi......  ;D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by dannyboy on Dec 11th, 2002, 3:13pm
Right Jacks, but it gives good courage for Lion Hunting, wanna hit sugar? Ya keep shouting on purpose to chase em away and I can't get a good shot.


Margi Barker!

Time to trade that banana for a 30-06 with no scopes for close range quick draw in thick bush, and a 454 Cassul side-arm just in case. Watcha say?

Change your mind

In the name of OUCH - speak out!

Am I a bit over passionate?

Danny

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by SFChris on Dec 11th, 2002, 3:31pm
WTF?

???

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by echo on Dec 11th, 2002, 3:50pm
Close range in bush?  I'll stick with my S&W Model 39, or Army Issue 45.  30-06 requires too much swing area for close range bush.

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by dannyboy on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:05pm
I like this guy

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by echo on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:12pm

on 12/11/02 at 14:35:38, jonny wrote:
We will see, Echo.

DJ, has every ISP # that has passed through here, maybe I can convince him to run some numbers ;D

...............jonny :D


So he keeps numbers?  Damn, I was going to come back as "repeatedvoicemountainbounce" just to screw with people.  I guess I'll just stay as echo, the echomiester, echoramma, echodome, chromedome, baldfuck, echo the dippen whale.  wooooh I digress.  

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by RevDeFord on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:16pm
I'll stick with my Russian Dragunov Sniper 7.62X54R 202 GR for distance and my Remington 870 Magnum with 3 1/2" shells for the close stuff.

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by SFChris on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:18pm
Hey Rev - thou shall not kill?
???

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by echo on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:21pm
Makes me think of the movie "We were soldiers"  and the prayer.

something like "God - ignor the prayers of our hethan enemy.......... and we'll blow them straight to hell.

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by RevDeFord on Dec 11th, 2002, 4:22pm
The Bible doesn't say you can't have a gun.  When Peter cut off the soldier's ear, Jesus didn't say ,"Hey Peter, what are you doing with that gun?"

Instead he said, "If you live by the sword you will die by the sword."

Same way with guns....if you live by them, you will die by them.  If you like them because they are fun and they enable me to protect my family, ain't no problems.  I know more Christians who have guns than non-Christians.

Most of the people fighting in the Civil War were Christians, and the same with the Revolutionary.

I love my Dragunov.....I can snipe a target at 250 yds.  Never tried farther because I don't own that much property.

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Ted on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:17pm

on 12/11/02 at 16:22:59, RevDeFord wrote:
I know more Christians who have guns than non-Christians.


You know Christians who have non-Christians? Man, you right-wingers get more absurd every day. First Trent Lott ruing over the fact that the days of segregation are over and now you all are actually owning non-Christians?

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Slammy on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:21pm
Bahahaha!!  Ted got ya there, Rev......
as much as I hate to admit to a whiney, conspiracy-minded democat!   ;D


You know Ted, you should run for office, or chair their party.. you can turn any thread to a political battle!  :D



Slammy   8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by RevDeFord on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:26pm
LOL, Ted, though you did get me on that one, I must say, I own you man.  Admit it.  If anyone owns anyone, I own you   ;D

Leftist socialist philagrabite!

look that one up!

LOL ;D

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Ted on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:27pm
Conspiracy-minded? Me? Never. I just know that we live in a two-party system. There's the Democrat's and then there's the Autocrats, who branched off from the Aritsocrats. :-)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Ted on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:31pm

on 12/11/02 at 17:26:40, RevDeFord wrote:
I own you man.  Admit it.  If anyone owns anyone, I own you   ;D

What? I wish a Happy Chanukah and now you think you can own me too? Let my people go!

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by Slammy on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:39pm

on 12/11/02 at 17:31:11, Ted wrote:
What? I wish a Happy Chanukah and now you think you can own me too? Let my people go!


BAHAHAHAHAA!!!! LMMFYBO!!

That's two, Rev!   ;D



Slammy   8)

Title: Re: Rhetorical Questions and musings...
Post by RevDeFord on Dec 11th, 2002, 5:58pm
Hey no fair, how does that count as a point?  I don't think it does.  Who made up the rules to this stupid game.........Oh yeah, slammy did.  Now I know why none of it makes any sense.   LOLMBO ;D



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