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Title: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 4th, 2002, 10:30am Are any of you familiar with the begining stages of someone becoming bi-polar? My wife can go from sweet as the dickens to queen "B", to sweet again within a matter of minutes. Lately the home life reminds me of a ping pong match. Anything and nothing can set her off. Brings up shit from 10 years ago and rehashes it. She demands help with something, I step in to assist and she takes me off at the knees for daring to imply she can't handle it herself. I love the women dearly but, holy shit she's driving me crazy! And for me it's a short trip. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Mark C on Dec 4th, 2002, 10:53am Yall don't get me wrong, but my experience with women indicates the behavior you mention as perfectly normal, with women. I however...... Not to make light of a serious situation, we really do struggle here at my house with depression. If the behavior you describe is new, you may have a problem. See a doctor, meds for depression are much better than just a few years ago. Not so much a "shotgun" approach with treatment. A more targeted approach is avaliable now. I am a believer in therapy also, but do not confuse a medical, chemical problem with a possible problem better addressed with therapy, group or individual. Group has been better for me, kinda like here, it's much more difficult to bullshit a bullshitter. ;D Good luck Echo, we have a lot in common :o Mark |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by sueellen83 on Dec 4th, 2002, 12:00pm Echo, How old is your wife? The mood swings could be hormonal and not pschologically induced if she is close to menopause. Don't know if that's a better option or not. :-/ At least it could help you understand the dramatic mood swings better. Hang in there man, us women can be a handful. LOL |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Jabeen on Dec 5th, 2002, 10:57am While I don't like to use menopause as an excuse for wacky, irratic behaviour-I have seen people really change during that period. My mother was horrible and I live in fear of being like her. Others fly throuh unaffected. I would check into that probablity also...they can do hormone level tests to see where she is. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 11:06am I've got three words for you... P M S At least that's what my wife blames it on when she acts that way. For the love of God, do not... and I repeat... Do not ask her if that's what's wrong... Not if you value your manhood anyways. PFDAN..................................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by StanTheMan on Dec 5th, 2002, 11:28am Yeah, I would be much more inclined to point to hormonal changes rather than bi-poloar disorder. If you really want some info on bi-polar, I can get it. My mom's a retired RN, and she's done TONS of personal research into manic depression. (We lost a family member to suicide some years ago, bi-polar was strongly suspected.) PMS can often make a woman rather irritable, and while it *usually* doesn't create SEVERE mood swings, it CAN happen for some. By all means try to get some help for her. Stan |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 12:41pm Thanks for the input, advice and warnings. To answer one question - my little wife is 43. Here what I went through lately. She commented three times within 30 minutes that I needed to quit eating so much, lose weight, quit smoking and excercise more. I agree with all of these. At dinner she questioned why I didn't eat much and popped a cork because I didn't eat more. Holy shit! |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 1:07pm Hell... That sound's almost like my wife's normal behaviour... Except with her it's sex that she's complaining about. PFDAN................................... Drk^Angel PS... If you're really worried about this... Talk to her about it. Maybe convince her to at least discuss it with her GP, and see what they recommend. DA |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Not4Hire on Dec 5th, 2002, 1:47pm echo, my brother..she's *OBVIOUSLY* pregnant.... now ain't THAT some shit?...... on the other hand, FUGIFINO ;D dese wimmin....I swear...... can't love 'em.....can't satisfy 'em....can't trade a 46 year old in for two 23 year olds...... whatta we gonna DO? Quote:
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by don on Dec 5th, 2002, 1:53pm Sounds like the change. It's hell My wife went through the change. It's hell Now she's changing back again. It's hell |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 1:58pm on 12/04/02 at 12:00:44, sueellen83 wrote:
Depending on cup size I must agree. (or is it brains as pointed out by Cathi in a previous thread, or by the Rawhide) I couldn't resist Slammy -- Help Me! I'm outa control. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 2:05pm I likes my women with alotta brains... Two heapin' handfulls of 'em... PFDAN................................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 2:10pm So why is mine such a handful when she's a card carring member of the IBTCA? ??? |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 2:12pm on 12/05/02 at 13:47:04, Not4Hire wrote:
Holy crap if that's the case just shoot me. :'( |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 2:13pm Maybe she thinks big... PFDAN................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:00pm All women think big but the average is only 6 inches...... Cathy |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:09pm Baa dump bumm! (Mine said "give me Ten and make it hurt" -- so we did it twice and I slugged her) Oh stop -- there must be a home for individuals like me. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Peppermint on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:14pm Ohh... poor Echo :( um.... Cathi... who's ruler you using ???? uh oh... DEJA VU....... Time to clam up... :P |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:19pm ::) I don't know who's ruler Cathi is using, but mines not big enough!!!! Cathy |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:48pm Just like women... Give 'em a half foot, and they want a mile... PFDAN............................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: ???Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:50pm Hey hey hey wait a minute! I thought it was quality not quanity. ??? |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by suzy617 on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:56pm Definitely sounds like hormones to me. Her dr. can take a blood test to see her estorgen level. If it wasnt for being on Hormone Replacement Therapy for 8 years for me, I would have killed my whole family and all my friends by now. Anyways, just stay outta her way! :D suzy |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:56pm Quality does come into it but what can you do with half a foot, you certainly couldn't run a mile, still I suppose you could run half a mile with half a foot, or you could hop ;D |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 3:56pm Women don't care about quality... It's all about the quantity... They want a lot of well hung men... Never satisfied... PFDAN.................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:09pm As for your wife shes suffering from Dark Angel Syndrome - it comes on quite quickly, triggers for it include men, marriage and kids, 6 inch rulers and smart alecs!!!!!! Treatment Find a well hung man or a very short one cos you can can hit him over the head with one of the kids without pulling a muscle, and they don't run as fast cos there legs arn't as long. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:14pm Hell... My wife hasn't even talked to me since I bought her big BOB. Battery prices are drivin' me up the wall though... PFDAN............................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Slammy on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:15pm on 12/05/02 at 16:09:14, cathy wrote:
LMMFYBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D OMG! Slammy's in love! :D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by eyes_afire on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:19pm Well Echo, I think bi-polar disorder manifests itself in more complex ways than a 'jekyl and hyde' personality. Often the sufferer will have grandiose notions during a manic phase AND act upon them... such as suddenly quitting one's job and/or going on incredibly huge spending sprees, or furiously working on something without ever stopping to sleep. Then during the depressive phase a deep depression usually results, sometimes totally reversing thier ambitions or un-doing thier manic-phase creations. Bi-polar disorder can be very destructive because often it interferes with the sufferer's clarity of thought concerning the consequences of thier actions. Hope that helps answer your question. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:21pm And for your information... I AM short... About 6" high... Hang around with a couple of nuts all day... Live around the corner from an arsehole (Hell... Women say that it thinks for us anyways, might as well start givin' it the credit.) PFDAN............................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Cathi on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:48pm Well, that'll teach ME to spend a day out Christmas shopping...... Cathy- I am so glad you're out there running interference for us- you do good, girl! Echo- We talked about this yesterday- then the mb was down, I got nothin funny left to say now, but as I recall- I suggested that you MEN like to fuss about PMS- well, guys, whattabout UMS- that would be.. Ugly Mood Swings!!! Indemic in men...no cure!! Slammy- I will not forget how sensitive & caring your post was.....kinda confused me...... DARK- YOU DOGG!! I'm buying every man I know a ruler for Christmas!!! |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Slammy on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:52pm on 12/05/02 at 16:48:54, Cathi wrote:
What post? I don't remember any post.... ;D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:54pm No chance of me seeing the post then slammy I could do with a good laugh..............I didn't know men knew caring and sensitive!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:55pm Bark! PFDAN................................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 5th, 2002, 4:58pm on 12/05/02 at 16:48:54, Cathi wrote:
Well I certainly hope its a nice one, soft with out any sharp edges. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 5th, 2002, 5:00pm Why the hell should be worried about what it's like..... ;) |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 5th, 2002, 5:01pm I don't even wanna know where ya plan on usin' that ruler cueball... :P PFDAN.................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cootie on Dec 5th, 2002, 9:20pm eyes_afire hit the bipolar nail rite on the head.....there 'dedicated' to the mood swing there in at the time......keepin busy is what they thrive on and what makes em tick till they cycle out and then it's depression like ya got some sorta deep dark secret.....It's not a deal that comes on quick either.....plus insomnia cycle are part of it also....seem's alot of things go thru cycles. Abrupt subject change: is it ture what they say about a mans shoe size ???????????? |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Cathi on Dec 5th, 2002, 11:25pm Cootie- Right on the nose! How many remember when it was called manic depression? Same stuff!!!The highs are HIIIGH, the lows are horrid, and the swing quite subtle- till the bipolar (manic) hits the extreme. But, Cootie- I thought we were supposed to look at the hands....NOW you tell me I shoulda been looking at the FEET? All these years........... |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cootie on Dec 6th, 2002, 8:01am Yeah I think it's the feet and hands...then ya assume you know the rest !!! And yeah I know they used to call bipolar Manic depressant....I argued with my doc that that was a bad fraze cuz it made you sound CRAZY and out of control. Basically it's yer instincts gone 'arye'.....you suddenly feel very happy with everything....then suddenly extremely depressed as if you just got horrible news....then scared to death panic as if someone tried to push you in fronta a train...for NO reason....we have to much to worry about these days...things have happen'd to us in the past.....there's to many things that none of us can do anything about and things that are out of control around us and we all have natural instincts but some's kick in full bore without real reason or one you can explain at the time. Hmmmmm....I think I'm gonna go hang around a mens shoe store taday verses Xmas shoppin.......... |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Peppermint on Dec 6th, 2002, 9:35am girls... one surefire way to tell.... :-X |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cerebus on Dec 6th, 2002, 10:52am Ok I 've read this this entire thread so far and well.....I really can't resist ...... First of all Ladies.....I WIL NOT brag about my size wheight , length , or short comings. All I have to say on this particular subject is , outside of the hand and foot theory is that if you have to use quantum physics to calculate a man's size you either are impressively frightened or aggressively dissapointed. So It turns out that the best judge of a man's ummm ::) "character" ::) is his attitude towards women. about the mood swing thing the best two suggestions I've read so far are the "menopause theory" and the "clinical depression" idea. Either way....see a Doctor cause something isn't right. I have Panic/ anxiety disorder and from time to time experience violent mood swings. Most medication sucks in this department but there are a few that are highly effective, just don't ignore the symptoms. GET the Gal to a Doctor. I will get flamed by the guys for this next statement.....Women are beautiful in all shapes and sizes I don't give a D**** about the petty bullshit as long as she is a careing nurturing individual who can think for herself. Cerebus |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 6th, 2002, 11:00am Thanks everyone for the advise and laughs. Here's the lastest: A: It's getting worse! B: I've discussed this with her Dr. (caught her outside the office at the Mall) Dr will be sending her a reminder note for her annual mamogram, or brain squish. She will also take a blood sample for testing of all posibilities. C: Dr edges towards premenopause or severe masked depression. (keeping it secret - not wanting to show her ailment or weakness to cope) |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cootie on Dec 6th, 2002, 11:03am Wow....men say that till the 'woman' starts growin hair on her back and developein a mustache.......it's all hormones tho.....don't fergit.....so....what 'bout 'her' shoe size ??? |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by BobG on Dec 6th, 2002, 11:45am Screw the women's moods >:( I want my midlife crisis and I want it NOW, before I'm to old to enjoy it! Please. ;) |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Peppermint on Dec 6th, 2002, 11:53am Oh you Men... LIVE for those days dontcha....careful what ya wish for.... :o oh brother... :D |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cerebus on Dec 6th, 2002, 12:08pm ***Starfleet Transmission*** *** Security code: Alpha 1 *** For all you skeptics out there who cant seem to get it through your thick skulls. when I said I don't give a Damn about the petty crap and require a caring, nurturing, self thinking individual. I ******* MEANT IT!!!!!!! so If somehow you are now feeling a little narrow minded.....GOOD! ***END Transmission*** Cerebus |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:04pm He seems pretty testy and determined to convince us that he's tellin' the truth. Or is he tryin' to prove it to himself... Hmmmmmm... PFDAN..................................... Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Peppermint on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:11pm hmmmm.. That's it... I'm gettin' Woobie out here. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by RevDeFord on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:15pm I am extremely cold today, but I don't know that I would consider it bi-polar. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Cathi on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:17pm Cerebus- I think I'm in LOOOOOVE!! :-* :-* It's a fact, yknow- ya can put pretty bows & nice paper on the nastiest stuff.....but you can't change the inside- There's a thread somewhere where jonny made basically the same statement........ As for raging hormones, well, we don't want to discuss it, do we girls? |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:27pm Rev... Get yourself two big handfuls of woman brains, and warm yaself up... Cathi... Are ya always so gullible, or do you save it all for the board? PFDAN............................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Cathi on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:38pm DRK- 24/7- totally gullible- even believed the thingie about hand/shoe size.......... uhh, thanks for asking................. Don't pick on me now, I'm headed out the door again..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by NotH20 on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:45pm Echo - first off let me say that you are a very nice man to even consider trying to find out if there was something medically wrong (shhhh I won't tell anyone how nice you're being) instead of just assuming she was in a "bitchy mood." Glad to hear that you were able to get the doc aside and give a head's up......if everything comes back fine on her bloodwork and no hormone replacement therapy is issued for her - there is a vitamin on the market that helps women with their mood swings - it's called Optivite. You can take up to like 6 pills per day. There was a time when PMS almost got the best of me and I almost ripped my dishwasher out from underneath the kitchen counter....these worked well for me. It's over the counter and was even told by my GYN to get some......just a suggestion of something that might help you out.... Good luck to you Echo - brighter days are sure to come your way......... Mia |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by SommelierCH on Dec 6th, 2002, 1:52pm I’ve been with 2 ladies with bi-polar (they are very attracted to clusterheads). Major swings in sex drive. During the up phase, sex 4 times a day. During the down phase, “don’t fucking touch me”. The down phase also induced the “I’m not getting out of the bed for 24 hrs” syndrome. Without accurate diagnosis it’s very hard for them to hold onto a job, causing more depression. Living in the land of silicone, and believe me, everything you’ve heard about it, is true, it’s everywhere, I find that some men are gravitating towards smaller breasted women because they know that they are natural, and will move when caressed (there’s not a big business in breast reduction out here). As far as male measurements go, switch to the metric scale. David J. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by echo on Dec 6th, 2002, 2:02pm During our marriage my wife and I have gone from everywhere sex to hall sex. 1st year - everywhere, inside, outside any room any time. 2nd - 4th year - all bedroom, all the time, any time. 4th - 6th year - scheduled bedroom. same time same way same day weeky at first moved to monthly. Now - with all that has been going on she has hall sex with me. Whenever she passes me in the hall way she says - "Fuck You"! |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 6th, 2002, 2:07pm You had sex with your wife after 6 years?? Damn... I thought that sex stopped after like a year. PFDAN................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by woobie on Dec 6th, 2002, 2:17pm Someone please help me!!! My husband is losing his mind!!! AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Tina |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by Drk^Angel on Dec 6th, 2002, 2:22pm Think about it this way... At least he had a mind to lose... That's more than some of us can hope for. PFDAN.................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by SommelierCH on Dec 6th, 2002, 2:42pm Wow, you people have guts. Doesn’t anyone’s spouses check this web site once in a while? David J. |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cathy on Dec 6th, 2002, 3:16pm I havn't got a wife so I guess she won't check this site and I haven't got silicone.........I did hear they were doing collagen for the g.spot but I guess we won't be getting that girls especially if its a male doctor cos non of them know where it is!!!!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by spaceman on Dec 6th, 2002, 4:07pm Echo: I love that joke. The variation on it is that now we only have hallway anal sex. We pass each other and say, "Fuck you not a very nice person." As far as the whole issue goes, my lovely wife is 41 (42 in February) and this sounds incredibly familiar. I've got to vote with the majority on the "changes" and "hormones" concepts. My wife has been taking Sarafem (its Prozac dressed in pink and purple for ladies) and it's really made a huge difference. If you can tie it to hormones, the OB-GYN will usually be willing to prescribe so you don't have to deal with a psych. That's my two cents. Good luck. Oh, and if the head spins around 360 degrees, get your ass out of there. 8) Space |
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Title: Re: Bi-Polar question -- anyone? Post by cootie on Dec 6th, 2002, 6:01pm It's all hormones guys...and age related shit...most couples go thru the same deal sooner 'r later....been there, seen it 'n done it and "I got the t-shirt"....if I ain't seen or done it I know someone that has ! Plus I have noticed as I get older I get LOTS more irritated about the 'little' things.....I speak up....sometimes I go off on a tangent bout stupid shit. Hmmmm....ever heard the term 'phsyco mom' ?? Look out.......... |
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