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(Message started by: jonny on Nov 20th, 2002, 7:31pm)

Title: Watch your puter
Post by jonny on Nov 20th, 2002, 7:31pm
If you get mail from "CCorjito" delete it

hes a clusterhead that dont realise his shit is spewing this out.

..................................jonny

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by paul_b on Nov 20th, 2002, 7:38pm
Thank you for the alert. Yu da front line of defense. You my main man.

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Mark C on Nov 20th, 2002, 7:51pm
Computer Security is kind of a hobby of mine and sort of bleeds over onto my job where I administer a small LAN of 7 computers. I have not seen even a hit since bugbear hit a couple of weeks ago, but I have attached a couple of indispensible links for maintaining a secure computer. Please feel free to contact me for any help I may offer. Safe surfing.
Mark


http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/


http://grc.com/default.htm


http://housecall.trendmicro.com/

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Cathi on Nov 20th, 2002, 9:41pm
MarkC- I try to remain virus-free, use my Norton anti-virus like a good girl, but what I really want to know is this:
How can I make the deelieboppers and the thingamajigs go dancing & spinning like you do......I'm in AWE, here!
Lucky to use proper syntax, meself....then YOU go and do all this fancy schmancy stuff............all I got is words.
Here's a gold star for your thingamajigs...ya make me proud, Mark!
Cathi

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Charlie on Nov 21st, 2002, 3:22am
Me too Mark. Thanks for the links.

Are these things hosted by you or can you just leave them in favorites? I need somewhere to host some of my little collection.  You know your stuff but I really don't speak computerese

Charlie

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Cathi on Nov 21st, 2002, 12:20pm
Charlie- At least YOU"VE got this cute little guy that dances.........I got NOTHIN'!! I need to find the 20th Century & join up......

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Mark C on Nov 21st, 2002, 4:57pm
http://www.clipart-graphics.net/

http://www.animfactory.com/

http://www.gifartist.com/

http://www.animatedgif.net/


These are a few of the sites I get some of the gif's from. Currently I just link directly to them, but that is not good "netiquitte" so I am currently constructing a web page so I can host the .gif's and some photos. Hey Cathi, go to the the page under techanical stuff and play. To insert a gif find one you like, click on the "insert image" icon on the little toolbar amd insert the URL of the gif you want to attach. You can right click on almost any image on the internet, select properties and the URL, or web address is right there. Copy and paste it between the brackets of the insert image code , hit preview to make sure you are happy, and wala! Moving pictures. Have fun.        


http://www.animatedgif.net/miscellaneous/5chainsaw_e0.gif


Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Drk^Angel on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:31pm
Okay... I've been watching this 'puter all day long, and it hasn't done anything but sit there like an oversized paperweight.  Is it supposed to do tricks or something?  Maybe a back flip or two?  Or is this like one of those posters that just look like a bunch of weird dots, until you stare at it long enough and end up seeing something?  Okay... I'm bored... I'm gonna watch something else now...

PFDAN...................................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Cathi on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:38pm
MarkC- THANK YOU! My computer has been a vast wasteland  of letter & numbers...up till now...and as soon as I have a few more minutes, I am gonna find the PERFECT image, and I'm gonna paste that puppy up...and .....voila!!! (sounds so simple- we'll soon see)
Thanks, Mark- for dragging me (mostly kicking & screaming)into the 20th century- I'm coming from behind- but I'm catching up nowwwwww!!
Cathi

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Ueli on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:47pm
Cathi, you may make it even to the 21st century in a few years   ;D    ;D    ;D

Or does your computer still suffer from a y2k bug?  ???


Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Cathi on Nov 21st, 2002, 7:30pm
Ueli-
Thanks-that does mean there's hope for me???
Pooter's pretty new- 'fraid it's the nut that's drivin' it!!!
New pooter- old woman!!
This is me-runnin' to catch the right century.....
I'm gonna make it.............
Cathi  

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by cher on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:55am
talking of being hacked, i got hacked last week.

I openend an email which said, `someone has sent you a big kiss` lol, like the sucker i am i bloody opened it.

they sent eight different emails to eight hundred and something people, the unscrambled my password, then tw days later when aol let me back on line, my puter totally crashed and had to a full system recovery.

so beware, if someone you dont know is trying to give you a kiss , they could have a nasty virus.

be safe and happeeeeeeeeeeeee

love

cher x

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Mr.Happy on Nov 22nd, 2002, 9:29am
AOL........sheesh..........

Although we're "cable wired" the wife and kids still want to keep AOL accounts active, no matter what I say. Past two months, they've had the "Instant Kiss" of death three times, same result as yours. No real file damage, more of an Email barrage/DOS issue. AOL shuts down the account, you call up, and they issue a "really original" temp password, like "123".  The second time, they re-activated our account, and before we could even get back in to change the PW, somebody logged in using "123" and slammed mail everywhere.  AOL thought it was us. Dumb bastiches. Finally got it straight, but not until the kids Got the Idea not to fool around.
You'd think AOL would've corrected this kind of internal crapola, but they don't care. They don't need to!  :)  That's AOL for ya........

Gotta love it,

RJ

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Drk^Angel on Nov 22nd, 2002, 11:54am
Ahhhh... Good ol' AOHell... Good to hear they're just as bad as I remember.  Becareful though... If you ever try to disconnect your AOHell account, make sure they don't keep charging for it...

PFDAN................................ Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by fubar on Nov 22nd, 2002, 2:09pm
Yes, AOHell, aka Army of Losers.  Remember when usenet used to be, well... useful?  Then AOL connected to the internet.

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Mark C on Nov 22nd, 2002, 5:00pm
http://ichart.yahoo.com/z?s=aol&a=v&p=s&t=1y&l=off&z=m&q=l


Down...down...down....  ;D    

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Drk^Angel on Nov 22nd, 2002, 5:08pm
Ya know... After all the trouble that AOL went through to buy Time-Warner, now there's rumors of them spinning off AOL to reduce debt, and help the books... Seem to me, the only thing that the multi-million dollar merger did was give the heads of AOL a different company to mess up.  LOL

PFDAN..................................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by jonny on Nov 22nd, 2002, 5:22pm
Cannot confirm this info but I thought i'd throw it out here just in case.

...................jonny

Subject: Friends greetings.com warning


I recieved this in an email and
I just want you all to see it...
A WARNING FOR ECARD USERS/RECIPIENTS:  
There's a new card company called
"FriendGreetings.com". The following
also applies to:  
laugh-mail.com
friend-cards.net
friend-cards.com
cool-downloads..net
friendgreetings.net
friend-greetings.com  
When you (or your recipient) get(s) a
card notification from them and click
on the link, it will take you to their
site. You will be notified that you have
to install an ActiveX control in order to
view the card.  
When you begin to install, the first thing
that pops up is what is known as a "EULA"
(End User License Agreement). It is very
long, and you will not read it. They're
counting on that. When you scroll to the
bottom of it and click "Accept," you have
agreed to the terms of the EULA.  
Part of what you will have agreed to is to
have monitoring/spyware software installed
on your computer which will periodically
report a vast array of data back to the card
company. The other part that you've agreed to
is to have the software send mail to EVERY
SINGLE ADDRESS IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK.  
In short, you've voluntarily agreed to install
a virus-type product on your machine. This is
not a good thing.  
Since there is no virus in the email, and since
you're VOLUNTARILY agreeing to install the
ActiveX component, VIRUS CHECKERS WILL NOT CATCH
THIS.  
Just a reminder: DO NOT RUN ANYTHING FROM THE
INTERNET WHICH REQUIRES A EULA AGREEMENT.  
Ok here's the deal on this, I researched this
on Snopes which is a urban legend and hoax site.
This is what I found on there...  
Claim: Opening a greeting card from
FriendGreetings.com can trigger a software
download that will automatically send an
e-card to everyone in your address book.  
Status: True.  
If you'd like to read everything they had
to say just go to www.snopes.com and type in
friendlygreeting.com in the search on that
page.

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by catlind on Nov 22nd, 2002, 5:28pm
Both NAV and McAffee are talking about the e card virus, so it's probably accurate.

What I need to know is who out there can identify and write AV definitions so I can get rid of this fucking IRC trojan that won't go away and continues to reinstall itself after each and every format.  NAV doesn't find it.

This thing is driving me insane....I manually removed most of what I KNOW is the trojan, but am stumped at what else to do since without a firewall, you're defenseless against it and you can't AV fix it cause the AV software doesn't find it  >:(

Phucking Hackers ;)

Cat

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Jackie on Nov 22nd, 2002, 5:33pm
Jonny,
I have no idea what's up with all that.. ???
I'm still trying to get rid of that "Bonzi Ape Shit"  you sent me a couple years ago... ;D

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by jonny on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:05pm
Start, settings

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Drk^Angel on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:08pm
Cat... You're screwed...  Might as well start savin' up for a new 'puter... Next time don't accept files over IRC... :P

PFDAN............................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by jonny on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:13pm
DRK,

What is IRC, should I be worried about that with ATTBI cable connection?

............................jonny

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Ueli on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:48pm
Spyware


A good tool to find and remove spyware (programs that send back personal data) is:


Ad-Aware


You can download it for free from
http://www.lavasoft.de/index.html
or
http://www.lavasoft.nu/index.html

Warning: Some advertisment financed shareware programs will not run without their spyware.

Happy spy hunting,
Ueli

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by catlind on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:50pm

on 11/22/02 at 18:08:22, Drk^Angel wrote:
Cat... You're screwed...  Might as well start savin' up for a new 'puter... Next time don't accept files over IRC... :P

PFDAN............................... Drk^Angel



Ummm see that's the biggest mystery and problem Drk, I DON'T HAVE any IRC programs installed on this machine and haven't been on IRC for over a year probably and never on my laptop.  

I will continue to reformat until I can figure this crap out. If I had a firewall I'd be fine....the desktop is stopping the backdoor.subseven virus, but the laptop is wide open and getting nailed.  We are in the process of reporting a few IP's that are traced with the internet security on the Desktop but currently NAV and a few other virus software programs have been unable to actually FIND this trojan on my system, even though I know it's there.

Until it's got an AV definition and removal tool, I'm winging it, and I really really hate winging it in the registry  :-/

Cat














Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by ChristineL on Nov 22nd, 2002, 6:54pm


I had that Trojan IRC virus last week. Norton never picked it up. I downloaded for free Housecalls@antivirus.com and they found it. I had to take it to the hospital to have it removed.

Chris L

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Mark C on Nov 22nd, 2002, 7:36pm
Cat....go here for Trojan Help.


http://www.mischel.dhs.org/trojanhunter.jsp


I liked it enough to buy it. It is Shareware for the first 30 days. Good program. Will clean your registry and allow you to undue any changes that may cause harm, but I have been using all year, after several upgrades, and have no complaints.

Go here and get Zone Alarm Free firewall. Another program I liked enough to buy, but there is a free version that is more than satisfactory. It will pester you at first but as you teach it what programs to allow internet access it will calm down.

http://download.com.com/3000-2092-10039884.html?part=zonealarm&subj=dlpage&tag=button


Then go here.......


http://www.dslreports.com/scan
and see how your computer tests. Let me know if you have any problems. One more thing, Ueli is right (again) about Ad-Aware, another program I cannot believe is still free, good one. Not all hackers are bad, some of us wear "white hats", we're the good guys. We can fix you right up, no problem.



Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Charlie on Nov 22nd, 2002, 7:40pm
Thanks Mark for the clip art sites.  I see a couple I haven't been to.  I have a ton of the things but the only ones I can use here are the ones I talked that nut Michelle into hosting in chat.  

Now all I need now is to learn to do that.

Really like the theater seats. Keep 'em coming Mark. I've saved a bunch of yours...many thanks

Charlie

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Drk^Angel on Nov 22nd, 2002, 8:50pm
Don't worry Jonny... If you don't know what it is, then you don't use it.  It's an old chat network that people still use.  Sorta like HSG Chat, except IRC clients are normally not web based.

PFDAN................................. Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Mark C on Nov 22nd, 2002, 9:20pm
IRC although an old protocol remains one of hackers favorite methods of obtaining control of unsecured "Zombie" computers to be used in DDOS attacks. Links attached.

http://onlinesecurity.virtualave.net/hacking/irc.htm


A rather lengthy but well written article about DDOS is here.

http://grc.com/dos/drdos.htm


Safe Surfing!


http://animatedgif.net/sports/nshang10_e0.gif

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by Drk^Angel on Nov 22nd, 2002, 11:21pm
Marc... That's because too many ppl know someone that uses IRC, and tell them how to get it and use it, but don't know to tell them how to protect themselves.  I remember the good ol' days... Convincing IRC newbies to do stupid shit... Like the always popular, "Type format c: at the command prompt..."  Or... "What's your userID and password, I'll take a look at your account and get ya all fixed up..."  Those were the days... LOL

PFDAN.................................. Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by marty on Nov 23rd, 2002, 12:36am
Okay, I guess that today was my day to finally realize that a Trojan had sneeked his way into my system. This Trojan could only be recognized by Norton (for some reason since I don't like 'em). Turns out that this particular one is spread via some "Pop-Ups" - I am not sure how that works really but it is not transfered via E-Mail (good thing).

Up until today I have for a couple of weeks been yelling at MSN (dial-up connection) and complaining about being disconnected, at first not to often but increasingly more frequent to the point where I got disconnected 3 - 4 times every 5 minutes - and that made me "angry".

Turns out that I also have an AOL account (had - canceled yesterday) and most likely that is where I got hit.

The Trojan that I have cannot be eliminated - only quarrantined and it will remain on the Hard Drive - inactive.

So now, I am trying to save approximately 25 Gigs of info from a computer that freezes up every time that it is not supposed to >:(

So I moved everything over to a server that I have and installed everything I could think of, including Internet firewall on top of the server basic protection programs. Took me forever to get back with MSN and get them to allow all access since I was told that I could not access certain things from behind a firewall :-X

Sorry, juyst blowing off steam here.. I'm really pissed off..

Marty    

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by forgetfulnot on Nov 23rd, 2002, 1:41am
jonny, got a flyer stuck in my front screen door for the exact same shit your are talking about, being a natural pessimist I tossed the thing in the trash, however as you noted this scam appears to be legal.

jonny would you be offended if I used  capitol J in your name or are you lazy like me and don't bother fucking with it?

Lee ::)

Title: Re: Watch your puter
Post by jonny on Nov 23rd, 2002, 1:31pm
I really dont see a big deal with J or j, Lee.

....................jonny



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