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Title: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 15th, 2002, 5:06am Not that I ever had any intention of going to see a doctor anyways but my mother(fuck head that she is) couldn't mind her own biz and tried to get me to see one. So the family doctor went to set up an appt with a neuro in Kingston,Ontario and the waiting list is over a year long. Like I said it doesn't affect me b/c I will rot in hell before I'd trust those sickos again but the situation is really disgusting for anyone that does want to go. The hospitals in Kingston seem more like a 3rd world country than what one would expect in Canada. If it wasn't for Karla Homolka having once stayed here the place would be a complete waste. rant over now so how is everyone anyways? and why have I not recieved any money/gifts from you people yet??? :) |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by suzy617 on Nov 15th, 2002, 5:12am One year to wait is crazy. I had 3 month wait, cycle is gone by that time but will go anyway and cant hurt you to go either. Feel free to vent anytime, most of us do here once in awhile but next time maybe you should leave out those comments about your mom :o Good luck to you, suzy |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 15th, 2002, 5:41am Suzy is my mother’s name. Coincidence? I think not. :) |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Charlie on Nov 15th, 2002, 6:00am I haven't been to Kingston but I think it's a decent size town. Do yourself a favor and see another neurologist. Some of them are okay. I post all the time that my neurologist has almost no waiting period...maybe a day or two for newcomers but he seems to understand. He's weird but competent. Of course I see him for epilepsy now and I suspect they treat us well because we have a "real" problem. Still, he has several CH patients. Good luck and be nice to yourself Charlie |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by RevDeFord on Nov 15th, 2002, 6:05am Gotta love that socialized health care. WOW. All I can say is, what in the world would you do if you had a brain tumor - a year is way too long to wait. I thought 3 weeks was bad. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by 2late on Nov 15th, 2002, 6:44am LT, my doc used to pull that shit with me, i'd be seen twice a year, but i don't need to be seen if i'm feelin' ok, now i don't take"it'll be a 2 month wait"for an answer. i'm seen the same day usually, next day for sure when i'm in bad shape i'm seen. ........2late |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 15th, 2002, 6:47am Short of a handgun it is pretty hard to get their attention. You guys all remember the movie "Drugstore Cowboy?" gives me ideas it'd really just cutting the middleman out |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Mr.Happy on Nov 15th, 2002, 7:07am Now, now, LT.......it's not nice to talk about your mother that way. Remember that she carried you for 9 months (+ or -), birthed you, and wiped your snot laden nose for you in the early years. If I'm reading my manual corrrectly, we're supposed to feel guilty about that and revere their matronly footsteps forever. Or not..... :) Interesting neuro thing here. Last bout, I got the same kind of deal: 4 month wait. By that time I was out of cycle, and was busy fishing and drinking Milwaulkee into working overtime. Bag the neuro for that one........... Changed MD's this time....got an app't with a neuro after a 6 day wait (plus 2 1/2 hr wait in the office). Eureka!!!!! Well, almost. The neuro himself is a most excellent chap..........told me he see's plenty of CH's, listened intently, took notes and dictation, and understood what I was after, especially since I refused any kind of pain meds. It wasn't until he got out his script pad that the fun started. The first thing he did was turn to his computer, pull up his browser, and head to Google. Thought he was going to use his secret passwords to enter the mother of all medical sites....but noooooooooooo......... he type's in "cluster headache medication dosage". I almost pissed myself I was laffing so hard. Scooted around so I could see the monitor, and watched him look at the result (try those search paramaters). After we refined things a tad, he wrote me a script for more Verapamil (low dose, but I can adjust it), gave me a sample Imitrex (1 pill, 1 nasal hit), told me O2 might work, but he didn't know how to specifically order it, flow rate, ins. coverage, etc. Had I not walked in there with my one-size-fits-all CH folder filled with the Info of the Gods (thank you all), things might have gone ill. As it was, we laffed about how insurance would cover his $200+ office bill, the $1000 MRI I'm getting this afternoon (strictly a CYA deal, unless Im lucky and it's not CH, but rather a decent sized tumor he can actually see and remove), blood panel, etc., and yet not be covered for as many *triptan's as needed to abort. Left with a pocket full of scripts, his fone number for More Meds, and a chuckle on my lips. It was everything I expected....... and less! Glad I'm only a mere eposodic clod with once a day visits from el Hombre, and not one of you that is truly chronic. You folks have my deepest respect and admiration......... If there's a point to this rant, it has to be this: I've never met a doctor who admitted he/she had no idea what's what. Stay congenial, arm yourself to the teeth with printed info, have SOME idea of what you want before you go in, and don't take NO for an answer. Good luck LT! EOF Best to all............ |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by don on Nov 15th, 2002, 7:18am Dont feel so bad. I've had to wait a year and that was in the waiting room. Gift is on the way. Hope nobody blocks the air holes. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Stampertje on Nov 15th, 2002, 7:28am When I'm reading all this I am glad I don't live on the other side of the ocean. Here everything gets paid by your insurance. Wich is mostly sponsored by the goverment. Until you reach a certain salary, then you have to pay your insurance completely with an own risk. Because I don't make that much money I have the first insurance. I can get as much imitrex shots I want. Even my O2 gets paid. This country is heaven for sick and ill!!! Oke, most of the time you have to wait 2 or 3 weeks of you want to see a specialist. But when you're in, you're in... PFD, Stampertje |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Ree on Nov 15th, 2002, 8:34am Stamp... you are so lucky to live in a country that has insurance for all people regardless of income... Our country is the other way around the rich get richer... the little people get taxed and screwed and they encourage people on Welfare to have more kids go figure... enough ranting... Bullitt I thought I liked you... go easy on your mom... If she was Eminems mom I could understand the comment... she only made the appt because she cares... dont go if you think she was outa line... I've been a mom since I was 17... now Im a grandma at 44... Although being a mom is rewarding at times the sacrifice is emmence(sp?). You wont know til your a parent yourself... I commend your mom... she is a beautiful lady... kiss her for me... signed your friend Ree (another Mom that would DIE for her children if need be) |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Mark C on Nov 15th, 2002, 9:42am on 11/15/02 at 07:18:31, don wrote:
PFDAN for about a month now ;D See ya, Mark |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Margi on Nov 15th, 2002, 9:52am OK, first of all - as a Canadian - I need to clear something up. We DON'T live in a country that 'has insurance for all people, regardless of income'. We have provincial health care plans that some employers will pay - but not all employers do that anymore. Quite often, we have to pay this monthly insurance ourselves. Here, in Alberta, for a family, our premium for that part of insurance is $88. Not affordable by everyone, unfortunately and we can NOT be seen by a doctor unless we have it...they WILL turn us away if we can't pay C.O.D. right then. Next, there are group insurance plans here, only available through employer sponsorship - not everyone here is lucky enough to have a job that provides those benefits. I am my company's plan administrator and the cost to have one employee on this plan averages $300 a month. These type of plans are not available to individuals - it's got to be a group plan. Blue Cross is available to individuals, but their premiums are quickly becoming unaffordable to blue collar workers. And, as our political climate here is continually changing, our covered services are becoming fewer and fewer - we are, for the first time in MY life, having to pay for "extra" services - stitches, crutches, flu shots, anaesthetic, etc. So Canada isn't as rosy as it once was, for SURE. Now, LT... my husband is from Kingston originally and still has family that lives there. We are hearing, here in Alberta, that health care is quickly deteriorating in Ontario as well. I, too, was told that there was a 1 year wait here at the Foothills Hospital to get in to the Headache Clinic. Um...I've never really been one who respected rules, so when Mike was in his last cycle, I emailed that clinic and stressed the urgency that he be seen quickly (that's putting it mildly ;))... Most of our general practitioners are moving to the States for better pay, so Mike doesn't have a doctor that can give him a referral. I bitched and moaned long enough to this particular neuro's staff that they actually made room for us that afternoon. LT, if you need help getting in to see your neuro, let me know...I'm a good lil email writer ;) And, don't go too hard on your mom. Us moms out here do that kinda stuff for our kids. We're given Mother Tiger lessons in the hospital after we deliver you and they stick for life. So there you have it. A not-so-quick lesson on health care in Canada and How to Blast by Neurologist's Bitchy Receptionists, 101. I'm done now. oh, and OFFICIALLY, Happy Birthday, Bob P. ;) |
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Title: :DRe: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 15th, 2002, 10:25am I do'nt get ya ???, What ya mean hope someone blocks the air holes, :D LMFAO... That is nice Mark C, Oh! to be pain free. :P Happy to hear about your PFDAN... :) David |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by erik on Nov 15th, 2002, 10:39am dont feel to bad i had a appointment made for another MRI in june of this year and the mri is for July 26 2003 at 2am in the morning in London ontario 1.5 hr drive from my home base have been trying to get it moved up but unless your a politician a sportstar or docter yourself you will have to wait or in some cases i guess just die. just wish private clinics where available but the canadian goverment wont let us pay for it even if we could.so i am getting one done in holland when i travel there at christmas time. talk about a fucked healt care system. "dont even get me going".ERIK |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by brad267 on Nov 15th, 2002, 10:40am Mr Happy, I just love your writing style... Comical, informative, etc... anyways... Good for you. Since you know more about CH than your neuro, I think next time you see him, you should take one of those diplomas off the wall and keep it for yourself... LOL Brad |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by talitha on Nov 15th, 2002, 10:52am Total ditto on the going in armed with info. I found that the following works on getting seen sooner than 1 year: 1. always go in person :o 2. weeping hysterically while crumpling onto their floor :'( 3. telling them that the voices in your head told you to clean your guns last night ( ;D 4. explainning, in detail, how hideous the pain is :-[ Okay, I've actually tried three of these methods. The voice thing, well, lets not go there. And, geez, I had been led to believe that you folks in Canada really did have it made. I'm sorry to hear that your health care system is as screwed up as ours. LT, the word F...and mother should never be used together when referring to the woman who carried your sorry butt for 9 months, changed diapers, wiped noses, ect. Oh, and LT, I was not aware that we were to send you money and/or gifts. What exactly would you like? I will consult with the voices and see what we can do ::) |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by SFChris on Nov 15th, 2002, 11:01am Brad - I too have thought that Mr. Happy seems like a pretty cool addition to this board. I like his style as well... Peace, Chris |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 15th, 2002, 12:24pm I aggree with you guys Mr. Happy has A flare for it. You the Bomb Happy! Thanks for being here. David |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 15th, 2002, 12:48pm Stampertje- Nice medical service in the Netherlands. Wish everywhere were the same. But, cannot happen in the USA, TO many people here some 250million I believe is the number. We have learned from Canadian system it would never work. Like Canada has we would have everyone running to emergency for fever, It is A real problem here in US, With no solution in sight. All ready the elderly have to go to Canada to affort the Meds. Shamefull :( WAS a great country A one time. BFDAN TO YOU.. David |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Margi on Nov 15th, 2002, 1:02pm "We have learned from Canadian system it would never work. Like Canada has we would have everyone running to emergency for fever" Never been to Canada have you, David. ::) Um...not EVERYONE in Canada runs to emergency for a fever, ok? Our health care system isn't exactly what you portray. Far from it. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Margi on Nov 15th, 2002, 1:26pm uh Ree? check your mail, honey. The Karla in this picture is NOT the Karla that posts here, ok? This is Karla Homolka. One of Canada's worst criminals. Don't let appearances fool ya. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 15th, 2002, 4:01pm Hi Margie- Yes I have been to Canada several times, I have many friends in St Cathriens Ontario. and Hockey was my life when I lived in Mass. And I have seen many games in Montreal.. But, the information I provided was not my own assessment of the Canadian health system. But rather investigative reporting, sixty min. or 20/20 some show like that. I truely thinking that was aleing the system. And my friends from st cathriens spoke of it a time or too. But, They do not know anything Margie they are Native Americans from the six nations. Mohawk ;) ;) Best to you! David |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 15th, 2002, 4:22pm Sorry Margie I said Native Americans, shame on me. The Mohawk from the six nations reservation would flip me If they heard me say that.. But, they are native American. Great deal they get. And recornise no borders in North America.. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by don on Nov 15th, 2002, 6:45pm If she is a criminal I want to be a criminal too. With a little luck I'll get life in the same cell. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by domm on Nov 15th, 2002, 6:50pm LT - glad to see you're posting again. Don't give up on the medical community. There are good docs out there and there are meds that help more than harm. You just need to find them, and yes, it can be infuriating and painful. Hang tough domm Karla Homolka? - "the Barbie and Ken of murder mayhem"? give me a break....... ;D |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Mark C on Nov 15th, 2002, 9:22pm and to our own Karla. I didnt mean to cause confusion. Here is a little more on the "Ken & Barbie" murder team. http://members.fortunecity.com/mastercrime/thecrimeweb/id24.html |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Jude_aka_kiwidoc on Nov 15th, 2002, 9:55pm I was faced with the same delays here in the UK (I don't live in NZ anymore). I was lucky - I had met a good neurologist who saw patients at the hospital where I worked so I went to see him privately instead of on the national health service. He promptly booked me an appointment in his hospital clinic and told me to change GPs (family doctors/general practioners) so I did. I have got to know the Senior Registrar very well and he told me that the world is full of people who complain of pain all the time. He gets angry because these time wasters make it harder for him to deal with the people who really need to be seen - those with CH, MS and other awful illnesses. The bottom line is that it is worth paying out even if its only for one visit so you can find out what your options truly are. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Ree on Nov 15th, 2002, 9:59pm OK I FEEL DUMB........ I REMEMBER THOSE NUTZ AND I CANT BELIEVE I THOUGHT THAT WAS OUR KARLA SORRY... NOW MARGI THINKS IM A CRAZED SEX MANIAC TOO........ LOL... I SWEAR DAVE WANTED TO KNOW IF SHE HAD PANTS ON... WASNT ME... I TEACH SUNDAY SCHOOL FOR GODS SAKE... LOL AND IM A NANA TOO... SHEESH.......................... >>>ree feels stupid thanks marc For fear of looking stupider I erased my past message... |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 16th, 2002, 6:54am Jude- I agree the serivce is worth paying for, But, You could not afford medical care here in the U.S. I should say I would pay anything to abort the pain of an attack David |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Ann on Nov 16th, 2002, 7:13am Just wanted to add my 2 cents about the health care system in Canada. I live in Quebec, and we are living a doctor shortage in the regions. If you live in the big city there is no problem finding a family doctor. As far as costs go, you want to see a doc, you go to a clinic or hospital, present your medicare card and wait your turn. You do NOT have to pay for anything. The province pays the doc for you, even specialists like cardio's and neuro's. As for meds, either you have a private insurance policy (which I do..they pay 80% of all meds up to a certain amount and then pay 100% once you've gone over that amount) or you use the provincial insurance. If I'm not mistaken, once you've paid out a couple hundred dollars, the province foots the bill for the rest of your meds for the year. Our system is not perfect and yes there are long waits in emergency rooms, however there is triage and if you are considered an urgent patient, they will see you immediately. If you are suffering from a fever, you will wait forever, so you are better off at home in bed where you belong anyway! Margi, I didn't realize Alberta had gone through such a big change! I was flabbergasted when I read your post!! How can there be such a big difference from one province to another? And have you seen the ads on TV from the Premier's council regarding medical costs? They are putting pressure on the federal government to get their act together. Hope that will help! hugs Ann |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 16th, 2002, 7:51am Hi Ann, Your province runs things basicly the way it was always told BY Canadiean friends of mine in ONTARIO.. I'm aware it is th few and not the whole of Canada abuseing the system.. David |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 17th, 2002, 12:56am my mom is Mohawk, the old gutter S____L____U___T! she doesn't have to pay taxes on alot of things and has the option of living in a purple shack with six cars out front on blocks, drinking so much aftershave she forgot they lost the war, blocking roads and bridges shits over, give the land back to the Vikings, they were here first better work this time |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 17th, 2002, 1:26am on 11/15/02 at 09:42:58, Mark C wrote:
I told her if she had have been with me instead of Vanilla Ice there she would never went through the hell she did and be where she is now. Women just don't listen but I forgive her, she's still the fairest in the land. |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Mr.Happy on Nov 17th, 2002, 1:52am Dang. I just HAD to check out the latest post by LT.......another vision of Not Our Karla. It only reminds me that I'm right handed....... |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 17th, 2002, 2:03am My mom, THE OLD GUTTERvery *friendly* person! damn man, who be editing my posts, giving it the Disney version????? gotta admit, it's kinda funny though, just don't mess with my child/necro/beastiality/rape/ files :) |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by LTBullitt on Nov 17th, 2002, 2:04am My Mom the old Gutter S L U T! |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by Luna on Nov 17th, 2002, 1:17pm Hey LT, My Doc sent me to an internist in Trenton. She said the only Neuro in the area moved and the wait is too long to go to K-town. Had my appointment with him in about a week. I am not sure if he will be quite as effective as a neuro but he seems willing to learn. Had a book open to the CH page as he asked me my symptoms. I just have to get him to listen a bit more. I am hoping that if he decides this is out of his field he might have more weight in a referral to a Neuro. Have you had a MRI? Mine was requested in August and still haven't got a call to get the appointment scheduled. It will be done at KGH & I am wondering what the wait is for that. Laura |
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Title: Re: One Year Wait For Neuro Post by David Shea on Nov 17th, 2002, 8:29pm LT - THE Mohawk, I have visited in Canada are all really great people. couple of NHL stars from hamilton too. David |
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