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Title: Publicity Post by Ted on Oct 30th, 2002, 11:53pm I have a friend who is very well known in the art world as one of the top folk artists of our times. She's in the Smithsonian as well as many other prestigious museums, books, etc., throughout the world. That's about all I'll say about her at this point. But if we have enough interest here, because I know we have enough artists here, she would be willing to help us get a cluster art show going. Now, what I need to know before I talk to her anymore about it is if there is an interest in doing something like this. Right now I just need to know how many people would want to, and would, put something(s) into such a show. Any visual art would work (paintings, sculptures, etc) probably and maybe even any theme, though the cluster theme would probably be best. If there's enough interest the rest of the details will be looked at and worked with. This has the potential of bringing a lot more publicity to clusters. Not saying it'll be a household name, but it could sure help. Anyway, e-mail me or post here so I can get a rough idea of the numbers and see if I should follow this up with her. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ree on Oct 31st, 2002, 12:02am This is a great idea... with all the talent here... really get some attention for the cause... ree |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Drk^Angel on Oct 31st, 2002, 12:14am Sounds like a good idea from here. I'm not much at visual art, so I don't have anything to contribute, but from what I've seen from the artists on the board, I'm sure something could be put together. PFDAN.............................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 31st, 2002, 3:18pm What a great idea!!! JD are you out there? JD's art would be perfect to start it off. He's the one who drew the now famous "clusterhead' that I believe is one of our logo's. Unfortunately, I can't draw a stick figure. Linda Howell |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Svenn on Oct 31st, 2002, 4:14pm This is the best idea in a long time here. Just go for it folk`s Svenn |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by ave on Oct 31st, 2002, 4:14pm Ted, I could ask my Cees, who contributed art to Elaine's site, some time ago. It is not cluster art but looking at some, it might be. Maybe you saw it? |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by don on Oct 31st, 2002, 4:23pm I only draw dirty pictures but an art show is a great idea. Perfect way to illustrate to others the pain we suffer. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Oct 31st, 2002, 5:03pm One offer to contribute isn't going to make this happen. Since there's no real interest other than in theory only, might as well forget it. OK everyone. Back to complaining about how no one understands clusters and that there's a they not willing to put in any effort to do anything for us. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by jonny on Oct 31st, 2002, 5:14pm Give it some time, Ted......5 hours is not a long time for a thousand people to read your post, Bro. JD, just finished a project for me, Ill e-mail him about this....Ill bet money he will want in on this. Hell, he already has 3-4 great CH pics floating around the internet. ......................jonny |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Oct 31st, 2002, 5:19pm That's 12:53 yesterday, Jonny. Not this afternoon. :-) I'll give it time. I wouldn't close the idea down. Just watching a certain pattern emerge again with many people already having read it and only one offer. But that would be cool if JD got something in it. He does great work. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by jonny on Oct 31st, 2002, 5:23pm Shit Bro!!, didnt look at the date, sorry. Ill still mail JD and im sure Zaira from Italy will give up some of her CH art....if not I will, I got it on my hard drive......LOL ....................jonny Im almost positive JD has a couple CH sculptures, a dude grabing his head sceaming if I remember right. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Bob P on Oct 31st, 2002, 5:30pm Maybe only one of the people who have looked at it was an artist. Don't get down on everyone. Your offer is really only aimed at the artists. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cher on Oct 31st, 2002, 6:58pm hi guys........... would be glad to supply some work for a show...... just let me know what you want............... thanks.... adios jd |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Jabeen on Oct 31st, 2002, 7:04pm My son is an art major...I could probably get something from him if it flies?? |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Marc on Oct 31st, 2002, 7:07pm As Jonny and Bob said, Let the idea cook for awhile. I open this thread every time I see a new post has been added and I suspect others have too, so the "count" keeps climbing. I suspect that those of us that don't have a lot of artistic talent are watching to see what happens with this very good idea. Marc |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by catlind on Oct 31st, 2002, 9:39pm Ted I think it's an awesome idea. I'm no artist, but I can do ceramics, frames, clocks and the like. Jonny really liked his OUCH frame, so if that stuff would be helpful I'd be glad to put it to work. Just lemme know what it is you are looking for. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by BobG on Nov 1st, 2002, 11:51am I think this is a great idea. I have no talent. I just wanted to bring this back to the top. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by oringkid on Nov 2nd, 2002, 12:56pm Well, I don't have any paintings that I have already done that are CH related. I do mostly landscapes. And I haven't done any real painting in a long time...since I started really getting into computer art. But...I have a blank canvas...It has been sitting around forever....and I have tried before to get shown....(they mostly only wanted "modern" art ie "something to go with my couch" idiots!) So, I guess it would be....yeah! I am interested! Course, not being in cycle right now...not sure whether a cluster theme will be true to the pain...but... Damnit! I'm in! Sherry |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by catlind on Nov 2nd, 2002, 1:05pm Ya know I could always make the frames for the artworks with the OUCH on it if you are still interested in keeping this going.....here's the photo of the frame again: this is only for a 4x6 photo but I can make em bigger or shaped different etc. Cat p.s. Jonny can tell you whether they are good or not, he got the one auctioned. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by OneEyeBlind on Nov 4th, 2002, 8:58am Ok Ted, don't get discouraged. I have been thinking about this since you posted it. My mom is an artisit ... local kind of thing, but she does sell her work, and displays in galleries (local). I also have a nephew who has done some really bizzare art work that just graduated from art school, and another nephew in art school. If you are looking for stuff that is not cluster related ... just art .... I can sure help out. I am sure all of them would be willing to donate a piece of their artwork for the cause. I also got in touch with NightOwl who is also in to art and asked her if she would be interested in helping out the cause. Cyndra is also an artist (she was an active member of this board until recently) ... I could get in touch with her. Need to know ... exactly what were you thinking of ... If you are looking for people to donate art for sale and perhaps make it a fund raiser for ouch ... were you looking for just cluster head art .... Need to get a little more direction that's all. I do appreciate the suggestion !!!! |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 5th, 2002, 1:26pm Thanks for the responses. Looks like there is an interest in this. Cat, I like your frames too. If you all could post or e-mail me roughly how many works you'd have to show it should help to determine if we'll have enough for a show. Thanks again. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by oringkid on Nov 5th, 2002, 2:41pm Ted, I need to know if the works have to be ch related. I haven't done any paintings that illustrate ch. I have approx. 13 paintings here, but would have to take pics of them (I used to have them up on a site but finances wouldn't allow me to keep the site. And... I lost the pics of them when I reformatted my puter...stupid mistake on my part) to send to you to see if you wanted them. And if I am to do a new piece, I would need to know when it needs to be finished ( I normally work pretty fast, but I have a terrible time getting started) Sherry |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 5th, 2002, 10:16pm I'm going to be lazy and just copy and paste from my initial message for your question. Any visual art would work (paintings, sculptures, etc) probably and maybe even any theme, though the cluster theme would probably be best. As for timeframe? I don't have one to offer you yet. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by oringkid on Nov 6th, 2002, 10:30am Sorry, Ted, didn't mean to act as if I hadn't read your original post, just thought you could pin it down a little more as to whether or not it definitely should be cluster related, and if we were talking 2 wks, 2 months, 2 years, you know, just ball park. nevermind (remember old saturday night live? What was that characters name....? can't remember...) Sherry |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by OneEyeBlind on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:05pm Ted, as we discussed in private emails ... I won't be submitting any work for my family members since they are not cluster heads nor direct supporters (?). I did however contact Cyndra and Night Owl as promised but have received no response. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:18pm No timeframe yet, Sherry. It's still in the talking stages. So you do have some time. And I think it was Rosanne Rosanna Danna. ;-) Thanks for asking them Nancy. But yeah, like I told you in the e-mail, this isn't supposed to be an art show where anyone who's an artist should be a part of it. That's why even though your nephews are in college for art, it wouldn't do much if the idea of this is to help get the word out and also give an understanding of what it is. That's also why in the newsletter I try and have it only cluster-related. Because if you go all over the place with no real direction it shows. And the art show would never happen. I didn't want to put this together just to put together an art show but to have a reason behind it. thanks again for your offers though. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Margi on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:21pm Aw....THANKS, Sherry. Now that's going to drive me crazy ALL night!! LOL Gildna Radner played the role. I can see her sitting there. ::) nevvverrrrrrmind. and then that sweet little smile. man...why'd ya hafta go and do that to me, Sherry? LOL kinda like that Meow Mix song.... meow, meow, meow, meow..... (ha ha got you BACK :P) um..I think what Ted's saying here is he wants art BY clusterheads....not OF clusterheads or FOR clusterheads....clusterheads need to actually BE the artist. Lots of the clusterhead artists i've seen actually DO art about clusters...trying to explain the pain. They do other stuff too, but quite often, a pain pic is in the repetoire.... |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Margi on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:23pm oh THANK you Ted! Rosanna Danna. *phew* |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by OneEyeBlind on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:41pm My intent from the start, was either that you were thinking of a fund raiser where anyone could donate pictures to raise money for ouch and any type of visual art could be donated; or that you wanted "cluster headache" related art, just to raise awareness. I offered both. Again, I am sorry that it didn't work out. My intent was never to get anyone in my family into a show just to publish their art. Thankfully, most of them are tallented enough to have accomplished this on their own. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cootie on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:41pm Hi yall......My husband 'Brad' is a CH'r......and he is a blacksmith.....doesn't do the horses anymore but does metal work now....he makes railroad spike knives in his spare time when he's into it and other cool novilties out of old horse shoes and makes hooks and hangers type stuff....I'm SURE he'd love to donate a spike knife fer the cause...twisted metal end that go into a blade all "hand made".....sure fits the CH's MINDS EYE (twisting metal in yer head like a knife stabbin pain in yer eye)....don't it ??? Do I sound crazy here....leme know.....cootie |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 6th, 2002, 9:49pm Nancy, how do you find a way to make even an art show controversial? I said what the intention was when I said "This has the potential of bringing a lot more publicity to clusters. Not saying it'll be a household name, but it could sure help. " If it was a fundraiser I would have asked my friend to do an art show for us with her work. Good luck to you and your nephews. Hey Cootie, that's a great idea. Sounds like that would fit in fine. thanks for the offer. :-) |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cootie on Nov 6th, 2002, 10:03pm I'm thinkin he could fit a face on the handle end part somehow worked in ever so slightly before the metal cools but not sure if that is as easy as it sounds....he also makes the metal roses by hand but they take a long long time....depends on how much time he has to spare on em. He's been PF now almost "two weeks".... cool ech....jus in time for the holiday stress to work it's magic.....arghhhh. Keep me posted on this issue !! Take care all......cootie |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by OneEyeBlind on Nov 6th, 2002, 10:05pm Perhaps Ted at least I brought it back to the top and you got another offer that you are willing to accept. Take it for what it is worth. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by LittleMmonkey on Nov 7th, 2002, 12:00am Sorry so slow to read all the posts, but I am interested in this pic thing. What I want to know is how you all think you can put ch in a pic....send some my way if they are out there..... my email is LittleMmonkey@aol.com and my name is dawn I just dont understand how you can draw a pic of ch unless it is a pic of the devil and an ice pick love ya all, just send pics my way...... |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Margi on Nov 7th, 2002, 9:09am Uh...I don't understand the problem here. To me, Ted's initial post was very clear. He is looking for art done by clusterheads. Any theme is acceptable, although if you've got any artwork that is 'cluster related' - go for it! JD, August (Marie), Ted, Piper, Zaira ... (and I'm sure many others who I can't remember at the moment) have ALL done drawings that depict the pain. What's so hard to understand about that? Ted? Post your painting that you did. Maybe that will clarify things. This isn't something to fight about, gang!! ::) |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Peppermint on Nov 7th, 2002, 9:58am Margi... I'm glad you said what you did. And yes, a devil with an ice pick sounds along the lines.....Ted - you should post your artwork - just one at least. Cootie.. that is a great idea, a powerful image in my mind... hope your hubby is pain free. Ted... I'm sure this post will keep coming back to the top on its own as others develop ideas or get brave enough to say that they have something to contribute. As you know yourself, art is a personal thing and sometimes it is difficult to show to others or even believe that it might be of interest to someone. Am I wrong on this? Mint ;) |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by catlind on Nov 7th, 2002, 11:03am Margi, I'm glad you chimed in on this as well. Remember, it doesn't have to just be CH'ers.....the theme of CH also includes supporters and our lives in general. A painting of a sunset is a day free of pain that someone was able to enjoy. A drawing of a man and woman holding each other - comforting a sufferer or a supporter, a supporter sitting alone in tears feeling helpless.....I know the theme doesn't have to be strictly CH, but even within that theme itself there is a world of art that could be done for a display. There is more to CH than the pain, there is our lives. Just my 2 cents Cat |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Margi on Nov 7th, 2002, 11:10am Cool post, Cat. Marie (August) did a beautiful picture depicting just that...a man and a woman sitting facing each other, with his arms around her, comforting her. It was just a silhouette, but it was beautiful and really spoke to the issue of support. Wordless and unconditional comfort. I would love to see a drawing of the 'supporters' stance' .... most of us supporters know it. Seated. Head in hands. Total devastation and frustration at their own ability to help. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by SFChris on Nov 7th, 2002, 2:34pm Ted, I can't even draw a straight line (nor sing or dance)....pathetic. Sorry! But, I will buy some of the art if that helps out. PS - Ted/Margi/Sherry, I can correct the Rosanne Rosannadana "nevermind" question. The "nevermind" line is also from a character created by Gilda Radner. The character was Emily Latella - the old lady who often misunderstood current events i.e., Presidential Erections, etc. She would go on a tirade, then Jane Curtin would correct her and she would say "nevermind". Clearly I didn't have enough to do on Saturday nights when I was a teenager! Cheers, Chris |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Margi on Nov 7th, 2002, 3:02pm Thanks for clearing that up, Chris. I love it when Ted's wrong. :D But it really sucks that I was, too. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by SFChris on Nov 7th, 2002, 3:05pm I wouldn't call you wrong, Margi....let's just blame Ted, shall we? :o Chris |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Margi on Nov 7th, 2002, 3:13pm cool, Chris. Works for me!! I believe I owe that boy some payback anyways, so...this is a really good start. ;) |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cerebus1968 on Nov 8th, 2002, 8:24pm OH yeah!!!!!! I am DEFINATELY IN what kind of art do you want ? and is anyone willing to have themselves photographed (anonymously) of course. While I was in Art school in Kansas there was an exhibition on Aids (right about the time it was becoming public nationally) and there was a very and I do mean VERY graphic photographic display by someone who's partner had contracted the disease. The display showed photos of (the now deceased) from the initial doctor's diagnosis at the office to the "death bed last hours" and it has stuck in my mind permanently. something of that magnitude could be very helpful to you. As for actuall paintings ETC, just give the word and I'll get to work!!!!!!! LOVE THE IDEA! Captain R.D. Brown |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cootie on Nov 9th, 2002, 12:19am A photo pic of someone with a CH (as I have seen them as a supporter) would lool like the pic on the "King Crimson" album years back...think Pink Flyod has a similar pic....or do I have em mixed up...either way.....it's the look of a MADMAN ...scarey !!!!! |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cerebus1968 on Nov 9th, 2002, 12:54am possibly....lol i have seen that one many times however i had hoped to not get close up and personal and would provide a series of shots . Capt. Brown |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 20th, 2002, 8:04am OK, time for the next step. I need people interested in this to send me a sampling of their work that would also be included in the show (if this takes off)... Jayacat2@aol.com By the way, Capt, any form of visual art is what's being sought. Hey DougW, how's that acupuncturist search coming along? LOL |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 20th, 2002, 9:47pm Just bringing this morning's announcement to the top of the board for those who only check the board at night. |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cootie on Nov 20th, 2002, 10:01pm Ted....Will get pics of the knives here shortly....is there a deadline....he has ta make em yet which takes a lill bita time ? Where's the show gonna be...or did I miss that part earlier......cool idea !!!!! :) |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 20th, 2002, 10:11pm Well, it would nice to have the pictures of what is going to be shown by next week. As far as the details of when and where it'll be, that's all going to be figured out after we see if there's enough sent in to have a show. You didn't miss anything. :-) |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by cootie on Nov 20th, 2002, 10:15pm Roger Wilko....will do.......... |
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Title: Re: Publicity Post by Ted on Nov 23rd, 2002, 7:50pm Just a reminder. If you would like your artwork to be in this show I need you to send me some art or a letter of interest by the end of next week. |
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