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(Message started by: Deveny on Oct 15^th, 2002, 7:20am)

Title: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Deveny on Oct 15^th, 2002, 7:20am

I am making this public because I have no idea who has been told this by this man. He is attacking my family because my mother does not believe in his visions. Her right, not to believe just like anything else. This kind of slander below is not right!!!

I am not a regular poster here but my mother (Elaine) was. I received a E-Mail from Sailpappy after my last post here, I thought about the E-Mail for a long time I E-Mailed back. He E-mailed me a long letter telling me that my sister had a drug problem, and I was going to have Cancer. That he had a vision of this and told my mother and she became very upset. I in return became very upset, to think that someone would write a woman that has cancer and tell her such a thing is certainly no friend of hers. I wrote him back and expressed that opinion. I received another E-Mail and this is what he said "My eldest Uncle is a Secruity Expert that lives in PeachTree City and the rest is documented, I can go through the archives and find the post where your mother talked about you, but any person that claimes to believe in God and Be a religous personis a complete hippocrite when the only believe when it is convienient for them. I think it is time to do just that Sailpappy produce it!

My Sister is not on Drugs !!!! My sister has never been arrested and never been treated for drugs so there is no document of this...it is a pile of lies. She is working and has been since the age of 17 and she has her own place. I have had my check ups and DO Not have cancer!!!! You asked me not to E-Mail you again so I won't but by God you E-Mailed me first. You even stated that you E-Mailed with several people about my mother I am sure you have E-Mailed them concerning this.

I don't play games when it comes to my family so produce your documentation. If you can write a four page E-Mail to me twice in one day I am sure you can find the time to produce documents and back up your claim!

Also you said "I have never come close to your mother, she chose to come to Florida to meet me! I
was very surprized that someone that had been battling cancer smoked ciggarets and drank alcohol while claiming to have cluster headaches the way she does, also most of the others at the meeting drank none stop and I was amazed at this factor, just the smell of beer sets off my attacks". (What did this statement have to do with anything sailpappy ?)

My mother went to a gathering that Donna put on, and I am sure it was not just to meet you.

This kind of E-Mailing is not right nor fair to my Family.

For any of you that think bad things about my Mother the only thing I can say is you don't know her! I do not see Mom attacking people familys because she disagrees with how they feel. I don't see Mom telling people she hopes they die ect...as some of you have my Mother.

I can not stop the crule E-Mails going around but I can ask that you not believe it.

Thanks
Deveny

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by jonny on Oct 15^th, 2002, 1:55pm

Well, I for one met your Mom twice and spent many days hanging with her, She can do no wrong in my eyes....Shes a beautiful caring woman!!!

As for the drinking and smoking....I smoke like a chimeny and drink like a fish and im chronic, it has never made a difference when it came to that and my CH......Someone needs to realize that not all triggers are the same for all clusterheads.

E-Baby, your aces in my book babe dont listen to no bullshit cause thats all it is!!!!

........................jonny

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Margi on Oct 15^th, 2002, 2:12pm

I gotta add to this. Both of these folks (Elaine and Sailpappy) I consider to be friends. Good friends. I refuse to take sides when friends have disputes. But I will say this: I spent 4 days with E in Vancouver. In those four days I think I saw her have maybe 2 drinks the whole time. To my knowledge, neither drink triggered a cluster for her. She's not a big drinker at all.
But she does drink Coca Cola for breakfast though! :o She's a very smart girl though - she's not going to do anything to intentionally trigger an attack for herself. As to the smoking, yeah, she smokes. Lots of us do and are completely addicted. I sure can't throw stones at that.

Sailpappy, I know your predictions come from your heart and after knowing you for so long, I also know that you don't intentionally set out to hurt anyone.

I think we need to let Elaine and Sailpappy settle this between themselves, though. And, I have every faith that they will.

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Jackie on Oct 15^th, 2002, 2:29pm

For the record:
Elaine DID NOT have one drop of alcohol at the Florida gathering. I know. I was there.

Margi & Jonny...you two are good friends :-*

Deveny...don't be upset, Sweetie. Jonny is right... your Mom is aces in a lot of books. :)

Jacks 8)

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Donna on Oct 15^th, 2002, 4:05pm

Ok, now I'm in this too.

I feel as Margi does that these two must settle this themselves, without further discussion by us.

Like Jackie, I did not see Elaine drink one alcoholic drink, but that would be easy to misinturpret because we had glasses everywhere.

I know Elaine to be a gentle, honest and caring person and wish things like this didn't happen.

Please, for Heavens sake, people.......be kind to each other.

I learned a hard lesson this past week..............life can be snuffed out in an instant..............life is fragile.........love each other while we have us.

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Linda_Howell on Oct 15^th, 2002, 4:10pm

I have to echo what Margi said, Deveny.
I probably spent more time with Elaine in Vancouver than anyone else, since we shared a room, & she MAYBE, had 2 drinks in 4 days. Elaine is not a drinker.

However, what some people do not seem to understand is that even though alcohol is a definite trigger for episodics......it's not for us chronics.
DRINK......have a HA
DON"T DRINK.....have a HA anyway. Any questions M?

Your mom is truly loved Deveny. Linda

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Elaine on Oct 15^th, 2002, 4:23pm

I love you Deveny and the rest of the family. Your a good daughter and a good sister. What others think does not matter to me. What you and I know is what counts and one thing about our family is we do stick together.

I will say this for me to stop smoking would not have made a difference in the outcome. I saw no reason to do this. I told ya to start with I plan to enjoy my life no matter how long is left . That is just what I am doing.

I don't drink a lot you know that. You also know I don't do things to bring a cluster on.

There are many people here who don't drink and don't smoke but still get hit with cluster .

I love ya ! Heather and you are the light of my life. I love all my children. You two have made me very proud.
Remember that!!!!

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Slammy on Oct 15^th, 2002, 4:25pm

on 10/15/02 at 16:05:49, Donna wrote:

I learned a hard lesson this past week..............life can be snuffed out in an instant..............life is fragile.........love each other while we have us.

Outstanding point, Donna! This is a lesson we seem to learn a bit too late.....

Slammy 8)

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Riccardo on Oct 16^th, 2002, 2:46am

OK my point.

I know Elaine very well. I meet her 2 times, I went to her home. She is one of the stronger girls I ever met. She is a sweet, nice, and caring person.

I know Sailpappy very well. I never meet him, nor I went to his home. But he is one of the stronger men I ever met. He is a sweet, nice, and caring person.
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And now the bad side:

- Sometimes my lady Elaine get flamed for little things, sometimes nothing. (Hey, this is happened 3 or 4 times in three years...... is not a FAULT!!!!, just a little black dot in her sea of good things)

- Sometimes my friend John talk too much about his visions (and I BELIEVE in visions). He, talking (honestly) about his visions can hurt or be misunderstood from some people). But John is best man I ever know!

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This only means that you two (Elaine and John) have to talk (QUIETLY) a little about the things to avoid to say each other.

I don't want to see two of my better friends get flamed or insulted for little, not basic things.

Don't forget, YOU TWO!!! that you share heavy things!!! cronic CH, HEPC one and cancer the other..... all things that HAVE TO JOIN YOU, not separate.

I REALLY PRAY you, and I am on my knees now:

Elaine: please don't take as an insult what John write. He write these things as a vision, not as an attack.

John: any each person takes the visions "personally". If Elaine dislike them, avoid to tell her. You risk to be misunderstood.

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I really love you both, you are my heroes: I would have your strenght when (if) I will have your health problems.
So please...... I want to see an handshake here, between you two!!!! PLEASE!!!

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And for you, Deveny: I have known you 2 years ago, and I am sure that you are a good,. good girl. You have experienced some misfortune, some bad things. And you love Elaine with the deepest love a daughter can have for her mother.

So.... help this two to join again, to forget bad things and misunderstandings. All this is a misunderstanding!

I pray also you: PLEASE!

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Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by Elaine on Oct 16^th, 2002, 6:17am

I don't think either one of us will be going anytime soon, I have it from a good source!
The devil and God are debating about with us Sail.
The devil is afraid we will take over and God don't know what to do with us. ::)
Sounds like its going to be a long debate, So untill they decide they are leaving us in Djees world ;D

Title: Re: My family has been attacked Enough!
Post by catlind on Oct 16^th, 2002, 10:35am

*high five* Lady Elaine, very nice post :)

Pappy, give the devil the whatfor and the two of you figure out who gets what set of wings ;)

Luv ya both.

Cat