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(Message started by: sailpappy on Sep 10^th, 2002, 12:23pm)

Title: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by sailpappy on Sep 10^th, 2002, 12:23pm

;D ;D http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1671.53826Pappy

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by Drk^Angel on Sep 10^th, 2002, 12:40pm

And taste good too... :) Did ya read that they found that a lotion containing caffiene may help prevent the formation of skin cancer after exposure to harmful UV rays?

PFDAN............... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by oringkid on Sep 10^th, 2002, 12:40pm

Wonder if it works on interior cancers as well. Maybe there should be a study of incidence of cancer in cultures that use chilis as a main part of most of their meals..

Interesting Pappy!

Hope you are doing better and feeling more well these days Pappy. Always happy to see you posting!

Sherry

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by Tom on Sep 10^th, 2002, 5:45pm

Sherry, your proposed study would be very, very difficult to evaluate, and why ? Because peoples that use more chillies along with their food generally also have a darker skin - and for that reason alone they usually get less skin cancer.

Thomas

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by sailpappy on Sep 10^th, 2002, 6:23pm

;D ;D Actually Tom,
I think if you check, the people that use the most hot peppers with their food are Asian, not Dark skinned but Yellow pigmented skin.
In Viet Nam or Cambodia they feed their babies hot food that would take the skin right off the interior of my mouth, I know because I tried it first hand! Pappy

Title: ±
Post by Tom on Sep 10^th, 2002, 6:36pm

Hi Pappy,

also the "yellow" pigmented skin only contains melanocites and melanine, the carriers of the "black" colour - more than that of the "white" people and less than that of the "black" ones.

(travelling myself for the last 13 years through Asia as bagpacker, every year for ± one month, and not used to the Asian hot food yet...)

Thomas

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by 2late on Sep 10^th, 2002, 6:55pm

now if we can only keepem' from burnin' the bum we'll be in good shape pappy! ;D .................2late

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by oringkid on Sep 11^th, 2002, 9:48am

Yes, but I was talking about interior cancers. In other words what is the incidence of say, stomach cancer or liver cancer or pancreatic etc. in cultures that eat alot of peppers containing capsaicin.

Sherry

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by Tom on Sep 11^th, 2002, 7:24pm

Sorry, Sherry,

I overlooked that you were talking of i n t e r i o r cancers.

Anyhow, concerning cancer (and other deseases, too) there are so many uncertainty factors worldwide like race, diets, radioactive pollution, food and water pollution, the quality of the medical care etcetc, and so one beneficial factor (like - may be - capsaicin) may be neutralized by another harmful one in the same region/population, and this way you get a non significant statistic. Following some examples:

www.preventcancer.com/articles/losing.htm
Illustratively the five-year survival rates for all cancers in the US population from 1974 to 1990 increased from 49 per cent to 54 per cent for all races, and from 39 per cent to 40 per cent for blacks.
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www.today.uci.edu/releases/00releases/149ap00.html
Stomach cancer behaves differently in Asians compared with non-Asians; may explain higher Asian survival rates
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www.monitor.net/rachel/r550.html
... data hide significant differences between races. The highest incidence of cancer in the U.S. occurs among black men (557.2 cases per year among each 100,000 persons), followed by white men (464.0), then white women (348.0), then black women.
The incidence of colon cancer is 20% higher among blacks than among whites.[3]The coincidence of multiple myeloma is about 50%
higher among blacks than among whites, and the incidence of prostate cancer is 71% higher among blacks. (Multiple myeloma is
cancer of the immune system's cells in the bone marrow.) Lung cancer -caused mainly by cigarette smoking- is 36% higher among blacks than among whites.[4]
But: Numerous studies have shown that environmental factors are far more important than genetic, inherited factors. Cancer rates differ from country to country...For example, Japanese women living in Japan have a low rate of breast cancer; but Japanese women who move to the U.S. soon have U.S. rates of breast cancer.
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www.usnews.com/usnews/nycu/health/articles/020311/11men.b.htm
Recent research points a finger at genetics. For example, black people are more likely to have genes that cause the body to process salt differently, making them more sensitive to the salty American diet. That, in turn, puts them at greater risk for high blood pressure. Black people also appear to process nicotine and cigarette carcinogens in more harmful ways. That could help explain why black smokers have higher rates of lung cancer, even though they smoke fewer cigarettes than do white smokers.
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www.apiahf.org/programs/cancerfacts.html
Rates of radiation-linked cancers due to fallout from U.S. nuclear bomb testing in the 1950s and nuclear waste dumping in the U.S. associated Pacific Jurisdictions are now suspected to be at epidemic proportions. The breast cancer incidence and mortality rate for Marshalese Islander women is 5 times greater than that for white women in the U.S., while the cervical cancer rate for Marshalese Islander women is 75 times greater than that for white women in the U.S.
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www.shaping-the-future.de/pdf_www/095_paper.pdf
mould toxins in Asia: residue of aflatoxins in fish (carcinogenesis of aflatoxin B1)

Thomas

Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by sailpappy on Sep 12^th, 2002, 10:10am

Sherry,
I think the biggest link between a food source and fighting Cancers internally has been established to be Soy Products, In the research stage Soy Been products fed to Lab Rats with prostate cancer proved to be around %98 affective in not only slowing the growth of the cancer but completely erradicating it.
I have been on a Soy product regime for about a year now, I have to increase the percentage of the intake upward to be more effective, but at this point I would us a Soy Oil ennima if I thought it would help fend off the liver cancer. Pappy
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Title: Re: Hot Peppers do more than fight CH's
Post by oringkid on Sep 12^th, 2002, 11:09am

I hear ya, Pappy. Course that soy oil enema would probably ensure that you have no problems with constipation! LOL

I think there may be many foodstuffs that have cancer fighting properties. The problem is in figuring out which ones. They say tomatos have cancer fighting properties (I think). I also heard that alcohol (in moderation) helps to ward off stomach cancer.

I really think that a cure could be found for cancer if it weren't for the money needed to research.

Until then, we all have to do the best we can and fight it the best way we know how.

Sherry