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(Message started by: iukid on Sep 7^th, 2002, 11:04pm)

Title: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be safe??
Post by iukid on Sep 7^th, 2002, 11:04pm

Recently i've been trying to figure out ways that I can make myself passout during a attack and the "date rape drug" poped into my mind. That drug guys slip in girls drinks to make them pass out. But I was wondering if using that stuff daily is addictive or bad for you. Input for my stupid idea please.

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Charlie on Sep 7^th, 2002, 11:22pm

Yikes!

Not a good idea. This kind of stuff pops up now and then. No one I know thinks this is a good idea.

I know very little about these drugs though

Careful!

Charlie

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by forgetfulnot on Sep 7^th, 2002, 11:39pm

Don't sound bad to me, but I brought this same issue up several
years ago. Don't wast your time.

Lee

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by iukid on Sep 8^th, 2002, 12:07am

im not convinced. Any good reasons

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Night_Owl on Sep 8^th, 2002, 12:46am

Well if you want to pass out, bashing your head against a wall is quite effective.

Night_Owl

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Georgia on Sep 8^th, 2002, 1:07am

There is more than one "date rape drug". A three second search on google gave me this:

"Rohypnol, particularly when mixed with alcohol or other drugs may lead to respiratory depression, aspiration, and even death. When taken repeatedly, it can lead to physical and psychic dependence, which is thought to increase with both dose and duration of use. An amnesia producing effect of "Roofies" may prevent users from remembering how or why they took the drug or even that they were given it by others. This makes investigation of sexually related or other offenses very difficult and may account for repeated reports of "date rapes" involving the use of the drug. " from http://www.emergency.com/roofies.htm

And...
"The drug’s effects begin within 30 minutes, peak within 2 hours, and may persist for up to 8 hours or more, depending upon the dosage. Adverse effects associated with the use of flunitrazepam include decreased blood pressure, memory impairment, drowsiness, visual disturbances, dizziness, confusion, gastrointestinal disturbances, and urinary retention. Paradoxically, although the drug is classified as a depressant, flunitrazepam can induce excitability or aggressive behavior in some users.

Flunitrazepam use causes dependence in humans. Once dependence has developed, abstention induces withdrawal symptoms, including headache, muscle pain, extreme anxiety, tension, restlessness, confusion, and irritability. Numbness, tingling of the extremities, loss of identity, hallucinations, delirium, convulsions, shock, and cardiovascular collapse also may occur. Withdrawal seizures can occur a week or more after cessation of use." from http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/rohypnol/rohypnol.htm

And some of the other "date rape drugs"...

ketamine:
"The effects of a ketamine 'high' usually last an hour but they can last for 4-6 hours, and 24-48 hours are generally required before the user will feel completely "normal" again. Effects of chronic use of ketamine may take from several months to two years to wear off completely. Low doses (25-100mg) produce psychedelic effects quickly. Large doses can produce vomiting and convulsions and may lead to oxygen starvation to the brain and muscles; one gram can cause death. Flashbacks may even occur one year after use. Long-term effects include tolerance and possible physical and/or psychological dependence." from http://www.health.org/nongovpubs/ketamine/index.htm

GHB:
"A low to moderate dose is considered to be between 5ml and 15ml or 1-2 grams. At first, one may experience euphoria and relaxation/calmness. Adverse effects can occur 15 minutes to an hour after ingestion. People experience nausea, drowsiness, respiratory distress, dizziness, seizures, and amnesia. There have been cases of people falling into comas. Poisonings and deaths resulting from ingestion of the drug have been well documented. A withdrawal syndrome, including sweating, insomnia, muscular cramping, tremors and anxiety, can develop." from http://www.health.org/nongovpubs/ghbqa/index.htm

Enough of a reason yet?

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Slammy on Sep 8^th, 2002, 3:14am

on 09/08/02 at 00:46:50, Night_Owl wrote:

Well if you want to pass out, bashing your head against a wall is quite effective.

Night_Owl

I vote for this one... ;D

Slammy 8)

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Drk^Angel on Sep 8^th, 2002, 7:20pm

Slammy... Sounds safer than roofies, that's for sure... As well as the rest of the "date rape" drugs.

PFDAN......................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by cappuccinocarrie on Sep 8^th, 2002, 11:06pm

Hey -

Nobody mentioned the obvious reason!!

Don't do it and if you do -
don't take it while you are on a date.

A womans viewpoint anyway

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Charlie on Sep 8^th, 2002, 11:24pm

Lies. All lies.

I took some Flunitrapzepam. So far I've been very happy. It has no effect on me.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm schizophrenic
and so am I

Really real Charlies

Title: Re: A way to stop the pain easily. Would it be sa
Post by Night_Owl on Sep 9^th, 2002, 12:06am

LOL!

Night_Owl