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Title: Head trauma correlation Post by jimbo on Aug 20th, 2002, 10:56am As a youngin of about 12 years old, I had a serious, serious concussion. The left side of my forehead filled with fluid and was swelled up at least 2" from my skull. My mom said it looked like a half a grapefruit was stuck to the left side of my forehead. Still to this day, the left side of my forehead is numb (The wife said the numbness traveled to my brain) ;D ain't she sweet? Actually I don't have a brain, It was removed right after I said "I DO" HeHe (Oooh, I just got slapped in the back of the head!) :o Anyway, maybe this is a dumb question, and it might have been answered before. But is there any correlation between that and the CH's? Both are on the same side and the only reason I'm asking is that no one else in my family has a history of these Goddamn things. My wife gets headaches all the time, she gets them right after I wink at her! ;) (Paybacks are a bitch) ;D Juswonderin, Jimbo............ |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Melissa on Aug 20th, 2002, 11:47am here are a few links for you to check out... http://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages/97060.html http://www.clusterheadaches.com/wwwboard/messages/36640.html :)Mel Edited to add: The above links are from past discussions about this very subject... |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by dannyboy on Aug 20th, 2002, 12:22pm If you think clusters are purely the result of a deformed hypothalamus, then probably not ... could a blow to the head deform a hypothalamus? I don't know...? If you think clusters can be influenced by input factors outside the brain eg muscles, arteries, nerves etc etc of the head face and neck, then definately. It just depends which fence you sit on But I don't think anyone Really Knows the answer to your question one way or another Except of course those folk that got a crack on the head and their clusters started straight away ... not much you could do to convince Them that they're wrong unless you had some Proof Danny |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ueli on Aug 20th, 2002, 3:01pm on 08/20/02 at 12:22:49, dannyboy wrote:
.... Dannhyboy has once again abused DJ's message board plug his cure-all business. >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by kim on Aug 20th, 2002, 3:19pm At age 10 was hit by car and cracked head pretty bad. At around 13 began with the clusters. Are they related? I dunno. I've thought about it too. |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by 2late on Aug 20th, 2002, 6:15pm i've never been crushed in the cranium,still get wicked ch >:( .................2late |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ree on Aug 20th, 2002, 6:58pm Dave was in a motorcycle accident shortly after started getting CH... hmmmmmm probably don't cause it completely might have a little to do with it. |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ueli on Aug 20th, 2002, 7:06pm The question "When your clusters first started, had you received any medical trauma within the previous year? (i.e. head trauma, surgeries, etc.)" was answerd as follows:
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by BobG on Aug 20th, 2002, 9:26pm One time I pushed one of those buttons and guess what? I learned something and didn't have to ask one of those same questions that has been asked 86 bazillion times. I also got a headache 3 days later. Button pushing causes headaches. I never pushed another button. I'd rather remain ignorant |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by don on Aug 20th, 2002, 9:35pm JIMBO WRONG!!! Your brain was removed right beforeyou said I DO. Otherwise......well.........you get the point. ;D |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by don on Aug 20th, 2002, 9:39pm May have been asked 86 bazillion times but if your new to this site, you wouldn't know that or the answer now would you. |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by debbie4278 on Aug 20th, 2002, 9:50pm Hhhmmmm??????? I wonder how many times Ben Franklin, and Al Einstein, and Chris Columbus, and the gang, got stepped on for asking their same old unanwered questions over and over and over and over...... ??? ??? ??? ??? |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by BobG on Aug 20th, 2002, 9:57pm Here we go again. On the left side of the screen is a row of buttons. The top button says 'new visitors' and is yellow colored (different the most of the rest) for a reason. So it will stand out from the rest and maybe grab attention. Under that button there is a list that explains the purpose of this board and how this board can be used to best advantage. The FIRST item on the list to look at is 'Research the site'. Posting your first message is the FIFTH item. For anyone that can't find the buttons on the left side of the screen, click on the address below. http://www.clusterheadaches.com/newvisitors.html If Ben, Al and Chris asked the same question 86 bazillion times and never got an answer (that would be an unanswered question) maybe they should do a little research on their own or change the question. 2 days ago I tried to help answer a question on the general board about oxygen. I posted the address(s) of where to go on the web for pictures and information. Within one hour another person posted the very same question on the meds board. I posted the same address(s) and information there. Less than an hour later the same questions came up again from another person on the general board. Do you see where I'm going here? |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by debbie4278 on Aug 20th, 2002, 10:10pm And for all you newbies, also on the buttons to the left, button #20, to be exact, entitled "about this site" the following is mentioned: This site is NOT about money!!! It's about sharing, it's about learning, it's about knowing we are not alone. Personally, just knowing there are others out there who suffer from this terrible curse, and I'm not crazy, is absolutely priceless (BobG must have missed this one while researching) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by kim on Aug 20th, 2002, 10:32pm ;D I even took the survey 3 months ago :o Does that mean we're not allowed to share anymore on the subject? Collecting dunce caps :D PS: BobG's just jealous. His rich blond wife took off with all the family booze and he misses his father in law :'( |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by debbie4278 on Aug 20th, 2002, 10:34pm HIGH 5 ! Kim !!! |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by BobG on Aug 20th, 2002, 10:53pm This is NOT about sharing. It's about some people that are too damned lazy to do anything for themselves. Example: If someone has a question about cluster traits, wouldn't the most obvious thing to do be push the 'cluster trait' button first? Or if someone wants to know about OUCH, logic tells me to push the 'OUCH wesite' button. Not put up a "What's OUCH?" question. If the person's own research doesn't satisfy their questions then by all means post the question. But, if the answer is right under you nose and you're too damn lazy to even look at it then I don't think you really want an answer. And yes, I miss my ex-father-in-law's liquor store. :'( |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ted on Aug 20th, 2002, 11:39pm Hell Bob. I'll stick with you on this one. After all, you know how much I hate an argument. But seriously. How did that get warped? the site says no money is being asked for and it's about sharing and learning. So Bob gave three different people the info, uh, sorry... Sharing that info for someone to learn and he never asked for money. There is a sense of welcoming yourself by not saying "I'm spoiled and lazy. I have a question that was asked 20 minutes ago. Please tell me the answer so I don't have to look two posts down that answer my question. We have shared and we have learned. For those of you new at this learnig thing, start with looking at the very page you're posting at. If right on that page you see the same topic you have a question on, read it and get your answer. If the answer isn't there, try the search button. If you can't find it, ask. But don't just walk up, neglect all the places you CAN get info from, and just ask the question. Odds are good it was asked 5 minutes before you got here. By the way, has this subject ever come up before? |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ueli on Aug 20th, 2002, 11:52pm You can show the donkey the water trough, but you can't force it to drink. I don't like it if people make shoddy statistics out of a few cases. Like our restless legged Australian, who proclaimed that 43.8% of all clusterheads suffer from RLS. When asked if this was sort of an official number, he said, no but 7 answered with Yes and 9 with No. And he assumed that for the remaining 1943 (less 16) registered user of this board the distribution was the same, duh. This thread was on the best way to produce a similar skewed statistics. Therefore, I gave some more reliable data. And of course, I gave the link to the source of these data - and get bashed for that. Only scam artists like Dannyboy make grandiloquent claims, but take every precaution to blur the trails to the so-called source, as otherwise their scam could be exposed too easily. BTW Debbie, Benjamin Franklin, Albert Einstein and Christoph Columbus were clever people. They certainly never ask questions that had been answered already dozens of times, in the contrary, their quest was to investigate unknown fields. Any questioner on this board should show that she/he has at least spent 5 minutes in searching if the answer is not already here. Anyone not doing a bit of research of his own is in my opinion a lazy bastard, even worse it is an extremely arrogant attitude if they expect the valets to present them everything on a silver platter. Next they stick out their ass after pooping and expect us to wipe it clean. |
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Title: I just took a big poop... Post by Georgia on Aug 21st, 2002, 1:36am will someone please wipe my ass clean? And don't think I am just asking haphazardly.. I searched the archives good and hard while I was pooping to see if someone had already answered my question...I couldn't find anywhere where that had been asked or answered before, so I guess that makes it a perfectly valid, unarrogant, non-lazy ass bastard question. I am just not sure how far to stick my ass out. A little help? ;) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 21st, 2002, 2:14am Ahhhhhh... Now this is what i miss. When I first started reading the posts on this MB forever ago (a few months ireal time), one of the top post was someone complaining about having to answer the same question more than once when the answer was somewhere buried on this site or on the OUCH site. This post makes me wonder the same thing that that post had... If you don't like answering the question, why did you? PFDAN............................ Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by dannyboy on Aug 21st, 2002, 5:39am Aaah Ueli ... the Hitler of medical opinions ... he's right folks I'm a scam artist ... just a very bad one thats all. I tell ya, what OUCH costs me in donations I Should start a scam of sorts ... so far ... including plane tickets ... OUCH has cost me about almost $400 over a year and a half and I haven't made a cent. And to to add insult to injury some jerk has disappeared with the worlds most expensive mug!! Ueli, Blasting Rodger the Restless Leg Dodger for his impromptue statistical inference techniques is just another of your inexcusable outbursts of anger at newbies, different medical opinoins, Tony G's, etc Danny |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by don on Aug 21st, 2002, 7:21am If all I needed were statistics and medical info then I guess I could just delete the MB from my saved sites. Not about sharing? The subjevct claearly says Head Trauma Correlation. If repetitive questions bothers someone to this degree, why do you open the post? |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Melissa on Aug 21st, 2002, 7:45am Ok, here goes... Daniel, leave Tony out of this discussion, he is NOT around at all to defend himself, much less breathe! Second, to ME, it is common courtesy to try and find the answer yourself, before asking the MB questions. If you cannot find the answer (I know how deep one has to dig to find them sometimes), please state just that. Say; "I did a search on "insert word here" but was very difficult in finding", then state your question, and apologize if it's been answered before. Just trying to help so new folks don't get the brunt end of the stick. PFDAN... :)Mel Edited to add: that it was NOT a problem for me to obtain those links. I don't mind doing the search, it makes me feel like I'm giving something back to ch.com. Just please try to remember, that this site has been around for some time, (also, not everyone is LIKE me ::)), and the answer you seek, is usually just a click away... ;) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by don on Aug 21st, 2002, 8:13am Bottom line When I see an edict the web master of this site stating "there can be no no repetitive posts or questions" then I will back him 100% Until then, if you know the question is repetitive, then just dont open the damn post. |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Melissa on Aug 21st, 2002, 8:28am now why did I even go wasting my breath? I could care less if it's been asked a million times, it don't bother me! ;D I'm just gonna put down, "Yeah, what DON said!", and let that be my answer to everything ;D I'm also gonna stick a buncha these onto all of my posts too--> ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)Mel |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by don on Aug 21st, 2002, 8:44am Smiley faces are used over and over again. If your going to use them, please dont post. It's repetitive. |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Georgia on Aug 21st, 2002, 8:49am Don - If you're going to post that you are leaving, leave. It's bad manners to post that you aren't posting anymore and then post again in a matter of minutes. Just makes you look like a ninny for contradicting yourself. Don, please don't go! I love you! We love you! I am so glad to see you posting again!! love love love love your friend forever, Georgia see you in 10th grade have a great summer |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ree on Aug 21st, 2002, 9:13am ok so we all hit our heads on this one next post sheesh... you guys should go and get your legs waxed lighten up! |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by debbie4278 on Aug 21st, 2002, 9:50am ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I'm going for a bikini wax!!! Morning Ree! And HIGH 5's to Mel!! :D ;) :) ;D |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Melissa on Aug 21st, 2002, 10:38am http://www.gifs.net/animate/amessage.gif Wut? huh? wut? huh? WUT? HUH? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Have a super, great, fantastic, lovely, exciting, boring, peaceful, sunny, rainy, painfree day everyone! ;D P.S. Shaddap Don! ;D |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ree on Aug 21st, 2002, 12:12pm High five to Mel too... and you too Deb... ree (hope it ain't a painful kini wax) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Meg on Aug 21st, 2002, 12:27pm Being an extremely new newbie supporter, I'm reading these posts and just dropping my jaw, wow..... and after everyone's been telling me what a great place this is to get support - jeeeez. I agree, it's probably get's incredibly irritating for all of you veterans to hear the same questions over and over (and over) again, but man, don't forget that feeling of being a new clusterhead or a new supporter. It's devestating, it's frightening, it makes you desparate for information. You want info and you want it as soon as possible so you can start breathing again...and so you can let that knot that's in your stomach go away, even if it's just for a second. You just want someone to tell you, quickly, what can be done to releive the pain because you or your significant other is going through a living hell and your life has been turned upside-down. So, for the time being, you skip all of the buttons that will lead you to pages and pages of info, and you just jump to the question...cause you just want some help and you want some hope, not 10 hours from now after you've worked your way through the archives, but now. Then....once you realize there actually may be some hope, you can sit and take the time to educate yourself by going through all of the info. It would be great if everyone, (at least those who are able to focus enough) did the research first, but it's just not going to happen. I think that giving someone a quick answer and then directing them to the resource is the cool thing to do. and if it drives you crazy to see the same questions, close up the message. Those of you who do open it might just save someone's life. Meg |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Slammy on Aug 21st, 2002, 1:06pm Meg, Point taken....BUT: I think all of us has been where you are. The problem is not being unsympathetic or even unempathetic. The problem is logistics. There is so much information, so much data of value, that is posted on here, the best advice is to point you to where the information resides. Alot of vets will even provide the link to the specific information when asked. That is what exactly Melissa and Ueli did at the beginning of this thread! The other problem is the fact that there is no quick answers to the questions that are asked. Regarding wading through tons and tons of info... that is why the magical search button is graciously provided on this site. I think if the question is specific or concise..most people on here have been accomodating. SHO! ( Slammy's humble opinion) Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Ted on Aug 21st, 2002, 1:23pm The only point I've never seen addressed in this topic, that's come up many times before (It has. Search the archives and you'll see. :-) ), is why are people so resistant to using the search button or look and see if the question was already asked on the very page they're posting their questions to. Seems like this simple request upsets a number of people. |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by catlind on Aug 21st, 2002, 1:42pm Meg, one of the things you will get used to fast at this home called clusterville, is that there are several folks who love to argue and banter back and forth. To a new newbie, it CAN be daunting, and Donna has addressed those issues in a post entitle need answers please and then gave the results. Many new folks have opened with a question that is answered openly on a clear link and had to bear the brunt of those who are tired of repeating themselves. Your best bet in clusterville is to join in the banter and argue back and just generally be a pain in the ass. Slammy for one will love you for that ;) In all serious Meg, this is a great site, and every person on here (mostly) WILL cover your back in an instant. For example, I've come up with some 'far fetched' posts, and I've had my share of slammings (no slammy not your slammings :P) but in an auction for a portable O2 tank, I didn't have the winning bid, but the person who won it donated it to me. That's the kind of people who are here, BILL_L doesn't know me from a hole in the ground, he only knows I suffer clusters and have had a hard time with medical and insurance arena and today I received a portable O2 Tank that he paid for. Always remember that those are the people here that make this place tick. Everyone argues and everyone disagrees, take it all with a grain of salt, when you are in need, almost all of the above who posted would back you up. Cat (either really disillusioned, or really at home with the looneys here) ;) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Meg on Aug 21st, 2002, 3:03pm Thanks for that reply Cat. I've seen the support offered here and I think it's awesome. Now.......what do i have to do to get slammed - in particular, by Hammy? ;) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Slammy on Aug 21st, 2002, 3:13pm on 08/21/02 at 15:03:05, Meg wrote:
heheh, Do I know you from a previous....... life? :D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Melissa on Aug 21st, 2002, 3:13pm Meg... All you gotta do is yell, "Who wants the last piece of sleeze?!.....I MEAN CHEESE!!", and he comes runnin with his tounge hanging out! Kind of like this--> :P (only picture the little smiley head on a body that's running...) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Edited: because I am boring the Slam Man... ::) :P |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by pjbgravely on Aug 21st, 2002, 4:19pm What about my problem? I keep asking questions that no one can answer, Like how to stop your kid from hitting. I still don't know what I have, is it clusters that last as long as migraines or migraines that have the exact symptoms and pain as clusters. And by the way I have never had a seriose head injury |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Slammy on Aug 21st, 2002, 4:22pm on 08/21/02 at 15:13:41, Melissa wrote:
What's a tounge??? heheh "Hammy" It's been "sung" before....... ::) Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: Head trauma correlation Post by Donna on Aug 21st, 2002, 4:42pm It IS Hammy! I thought I recognized your banter, and PJ, you'd better duck. Meg, you're gonna fit right in. Glad to meet you. You too, Georgia Sass. |
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