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(Message started by: ZAIRA on Aug 8^th, 2002, 7:53am)

Title: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by ZAIRA on Aug 8^th, 2002, 7:53am

I and You

You,
invisibile and unrestrainable being
that vent your hate and rage
in my head and in my heart;

You
that hard cling
and trouble my soul
manipulating with cunning my fantasy;

You,
deafening as the loudest noise
suddenly explode in my mind;

You,
dragon, that face up to me,
force which aims to vanish the colour of my soul;

You,
that wound me, stifle my breath,
clamp me in your vice,
know that I am not afraid of you any more.

You dragon, I knight,
swords reflect and shout resound,
two opposite forces are fighting...

I and you, confused presences
but I will rise and you will leave!

..........and my drawing..........Love, ZAIRA

http://www.ouchitalia.it/zdocpic/za.jpg

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Riccardo on Aug 8^th, 2002, 7:58am

How could I add a word?

Thanks Zaira, kisses

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Sten on Aug 8^th, 2002, 8:07am

My dear, little brave she lion,
I hear you sharing my howls in the night
but I know that you, like all CH-Gladiators, stand
and face the f'ckin' beast with just a believe:

you'll overcome it !!!

Thanksallot my dear

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Donna on Aug 8^th, 2002, 8:47am

Zaira.........How multi-talented you are. Both works are very touching and beautifully done.

Thank you for sharing with all of us. Now I shall go look to see if you have a web site.........I would like to see more of your work. 8)

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by gtarman on Aug 8^th, 2002, 12:05pm

Clusterheads, we ARE the strongest people in the world.
Say, Zaira, whatcha doin' tonite? Why don't we pop a coupla Zomigs and..uh, oh, Slammy's getting to me...

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 8^th, 2002, 12:08pm

Beautiful...

PFDAN....................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Svenn on Aug 8^th, 2002, 12:44pm

Marvelous poetry and drawing

Take care Zaira

Your friend in the "cold" north

Svenn

ps/ The sun is trying its best to kill me these days

average here is over 30C all day.Just hate that

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Slammy on Aug 8^th, 2002, 1:36pm

Zaira

Wow! Very impressive and insightful..... beautiful! :)

btw.... the woman in your drawing is just kickin! do you do requests! ;D

Just being ME ;)

Slammy 8)

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Tom on Aug 8^th, 2002, 3:59pm

» The evil is not that too many people are writing poems - the evil is that too many of them want make other people read them...«

Giacomo Leopardi ( 1798 - 1837)

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Jim R on Aug 8^th, 2002, 4:35pm

Both submissions beautifully rendered - thank you! And BEST wishes for PFDANs among other things, ZAIRA! - Jim R

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by eyes_afire on Aug 8^th, 2002, 7:37pm

Excellent poem. And the excellent drawing... my left eye can relate to it.

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Ree on Aug 8^th, 2002, 7:50pm

That was awesome ... you made me cry... I second that motion you are definately a multitalented gifted woman.
Thankyou for sharing that inner voice of your poetry and outer voice, your art. ~~~just me

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Riccardo on Aug 9^th, 2002, 8:21am

Zaira has asked me to post her thanks to you. She can't log in the board this afternoon

Ciao

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by debbie4278 on Aug 9^th, 2002, 8:31am

That was awesome. A perfect picture of the left side of my head. Beautiful words. We will not go down without a fight.
Deb
:)

Title: WOW...
Post by ZAIRA on Aug 9^th, 2002, 1:00pm

Thank you for your complimets, I am touched!

Sometimes suffering can be a good teacher and can take out the best from ourselves!

W FRIENDS, W LIFE !!!

KISSES :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Thank you Riccardo! ;D

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by ZAIRA on Aug 15^th, 2002, 9:23am

Hello Thomas,

Referring to yr. Message “The evil is not that too many people are writing poems; the evil is that too many of them want make other people read them.....; (Giacomo Leopardi) lowing answer:

" Those who find evil meanings in beautiful things are peopole without charm. And this is a fault. Refined spirits are those who find beautiful meanings in beautiful things. For those people there is hope. The elect are those for whom the beautiful things mean only Beauty." Oscar Wilde - Preface to "The picture of Dorian Gray"

Regards

P.S. Many thanks to all of you who appreciated my verses!!!!!

on 08/08/02 at 15:59:55, Tom wrote:

» The evil is not that too many people are writing poems - the evil is that too many of them want make other people read them...«

Giacomo Leopardi ( 1798 - 1837)

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Tom on Aug 15^th, 2002, 4:57pm

Hi Zaira,

sorry for the misunderstanding, but my post didn't refer to » beautiful meanings in beautiful things « or to real p o e t r y, like that of Oscar Wilde, for example - I only meant y o u r concoction !

ATB for your damaged eye !

Thomas

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 15^th, 2002, 5:28pm

And who is to say what is beautiful, and what is not... What is poetry, and what is not. Art is work from one's heart... From their soul... And art is beautiful. Giacomo Leopardi was mistaken. The evil is not that poets want ppl to view their work... The evil is that critics try to say what is and what isn't art.

PFDAN........................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Tom on Aug 15^th, 2002, 6:56pm

Quoteing your statement: » Art is work from one's heart... From their soul... And art is beautiful«:

You're wrong, Drk, a r t comes from the b r a i n (i.e., not from our damaged hypothalamus, but from a - hopefully - not damaged cortex!).

Thomas

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by catlind on Aug 15^th, 2002, 7:09pm

on 08/08/02 at 15:59:55, Tom wrote:

» The evil is not that too many people are writing poems - the evil is that too many of them want make other people read them...«

Giacomo Leopardi ( 1798 - 1837)

Tom, you posting that statement to this thread is a contradiction. You obviously read the poem, and no one forced you to do so. If you see the title poem in a thread, and you feel it's evil to make other people read them, then you best look at the man in the mirror. No one has ever twisted anothers arm on this board to read a poem or thread or anything else.

Cat

(sometimes it's better to just ignore and shut up, but forgive me Riccardo, integrity, or a lack there of, is a personal thing I just never seem to be able to keep my mouth shut about or ignore :) )

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 15^th, 2002, 8:02pm

The difference between a critic and an artist... An artist tries too hard to show what they are feeling, and a critic tries too hard to rationalize it. The sad thing about you Tom is that until you are able to stop trying to rationalize things into nice neat little boxes in your "b r a i n", you'll never see the true beauty that art offers us. Art is a feeling... Art is an emotion... Art is love... And art is hate... The one thing that art isn't is apathy, which you must be overly endowed with. May you one day be able to open your eyes, and open your heart, and see the wonders that art and life have to offer.

PFDAN............................. Drk^Angel

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Ted on Aug 15^th, 2002, 8:25pm

I don't know why Tom decided to post his criticism about the poem, even if he does feel that way. It just struck me as odd since it didn't seem his style, which is what I meant by "I don't know why...". When fights break out here I never see him tangled in one. Basically all I've seen him do here is answer people's questions and offer to help. I don't know of many other doctors, sufferers or not, who do that and kicks around here just to offer us laypeople answers when we ask. Like I said too, I don't know why he said that about Zaira's poem (It was a nice poem, by the way, Zaira) because it did seem out of character for him. Maybe he had a bad day? Maybe his cycle is just starting and he had a REALLY bad day? Maybe there's some history there that we don't know? But what I do know is this. I almost never see people thank him for sticking around to offer his medical opinion/expertise for us. Instead, when he puts out a negative post one time, like most of us here have before, he gets brought down hard.
Tom, thank you for being here and doing what you do for us. ATB
Zaira, I liked that drawing you did too. Hopefully we'll see more of your artistic talents of words and drawings.

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 15^th, 2002, 9:05pm

I didn't bring anyone "down hard". Nor was I trying to argue with him. I was just expressing my point that art is more than a mental concept. I found it a bit unfair how he attacked Zaira with such unconstructive, hurtful criticism, after she was generous enough to share her art with us.

Drk^Angel

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 16^th, 2002, 2:25am

Den is right. Zaira had the right to post her poetry... Tom had the right to criticise it... And I had the right to criticise Tom's criticism. It's all good.

PFDAN..................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by catlind on Aug 16^th, 2002, 9:22am

Very well put Den :)

Cat

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Riccardo on Aug 16^th, 2002, 4:15pm

OK, my turn....

A great (the greatest, for me) Italian song writer and POET (Fabrizio DeAndre') wrote:

"We ALL write poems until the age of 20. After, only two kind of men continue: The stupids and the poets"

This statement could sound weird to Zaira, but.... why?

I know (and she know better) that's not a stupid....then .... she's a poet!

If your poems comes from the heart, and you don't write them to be pleased, or to steal attentions...... you are a POET anyway.

Someone can hate poetry, someone ignore, someone love it over the limits, live for it, someone just love to read....Poetry can be shared, lived, suffered. Only the stupids USE IT. And Zaira do not use it.....

Kisses Zaira :-* :-* :-*

Title: My God!
Post by ZAIRA on Aug 16^th, 2002, 4:18pm

Thank you to all of you who understood that my poem's aim was to share with you my feelings...
I am very touched for helping and understanding me towards the unfair critics of Tom.

Love, :-* :-* :-* :-*

Zaira

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by ZAIRA on Aug 16^th, 2002, 4:21pm

Dear Tom,

Fortunately my brain is still working, thanks God!
In a short time I am going to post some other poems.
I look forward to yr. clever critics...

Hochachtungsvoll = con il massimo rispetto

Zaira

Title: Re: My poetry, written suddenly a CH attack!
Post by Drk^Angel on Aug 16^th, 2002, 4:46pm

Please do post more Zaira... I'm looking forward to reading them. Thanks for sharing your gift!

PFDAN............................ Drk^Angel