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Flying the flag
« on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:23am »
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 I have heard that you are supposed to fly the american flag from sunrise to sunset only, unless it is illuminated at night. However, I have also heard that it doesn't apply to a flag at your house. Does anyone take their flag down at night and put it back up in the morning? I have been just keeping it up all night, and it is not illuminated.
 
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #1 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:26am »
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I take down at sunset and put up at sunrise.
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #2 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:31am »
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UNITED STATES FLAG CODE
 

 
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #3 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:35am »
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I fly the flag at home night and day as long as it is not raining.  Of course I fly the Confederate Flag.
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #4 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:39am »
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§174. Time and occasions for display
(a) Display on buildings and stationary flagstaffs in open; night display  
It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness.  
 
(b) Manner of hoisting  
The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.  
 
(c) Inclement weather  
The flag should not be displayed on days when the weather is inclement, except when an all weather flag is displayed.  
 
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #5 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:52am »
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Ours flys 24/7. Except for rain and high winds. It is illuminated at night. A few months ago all the flags on our street were stolen. Last month our police dept. found 16 flags at the bottom of a pond. It broke my heart....
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:53am »
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(b) Manner of hoisting  
The flag should be hoisted briskly and lowered ceremoniously.  
 

 
This also applys to flying at half mast. Should be raised briskly to the top first and then slowly lowered to the half mast position.
 
While in Ft Lauderdale, eating on a second floor plaza, my wife and I noticed a small flag in the roadway below being run over. Just as we noticed it a guy on a mountain bike hopped off and dodged traffic to rescue the flag. He recieved and resounding round of applause from the diners and horn salutes from passing vehicles that had stopped to allow him to return to his bike. The little flag held above his head. A special moment in Lauderdale.
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #7 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:59am »
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Our flag is up 24/7 attached to the side of our house. There is a light there as well that stays on at night.  We take it down when it's too windy.
 
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Re: Flying the flag
« Reply #8 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 11:26am »
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Only during the day. I live in a condo association so I cannot have a dedicated light pointed at the flag. I have however flown it before in the dark, forgetting to take it down.
 
However, I feel that flying the flag in the dark is not exactly a disrespect - unless you personally mean it to be. I would rather see a house with a flag flying 24/7, dedicated light or no dedicated light, than to see a house with no flag at all.
 
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 2:42pm »
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I fly a flag 24/7 @ my house, too. I have a spot that is timed to come on at dusk and goes off at dawn.  
Preferrably, the flag should not be flown in incliment weather but I do.
I also have a 46 star flag (dates to the 46th state, Oklahoma, admitted on Nov 16, 1907) that has been in my family since about 1918. I had it professionaly restored last year and fly it on 4th of July, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, and Sept 11 only. The flag is approximately 10' x 15'; she's a beauty!
 
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 2:46pm »
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on Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:35am, clavers wrote:
I fly the flag at home night and day as long as it is not raining.  Of course I fly the Confederate Flag.

 
 
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 3:14pm »
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We have two big flags flyin 24/7...one on the garage and one on the front porch but both stay up. We have lights on in back and on the front porch all nite.......dam punks on these back country roads so we keep the place lit up. House got blasted with paint balls last weekend but they missed the flag and they missed the front window but hit on both sides close....not sure what they were aimin at. One big one few years back went 'thru' the sideing ! The flag on our bike stays also 24/7 and flaps behind us where ever we go. Mello-Yello paint ball Pammie
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 4:29pm »
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"Criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to the flag were contained in Title 18 of the United States Code prior to 1989. The Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson; June 21, 1989, held the statute unconstitutional. This statute was amended when the Flag Protection Act of 1989 (Oct. 28, 1989) imposed a fine and/or up to 1 year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing, physically defiling, maintaining on the floor or trampling upon any flag of the United States. The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was struck down by the Supreme Court decision, United States vs. Eichman, decided on June 11, 1990."
 
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on Jul 3rd, 2003, 4:29pm, Mark C wrote:
"Criminal penalties for certain acts of desecration to the flag were contained in Title 18 of the United States Code prior to 1989. The Supreme Court decision in Texas v. Johnson; June 21, 1989, held the statute unconstitutional. This statute was amended when the Flag Protection Act of 1989 (Oct. 28, 1989) imposed a fine and/or up to 1 year in prison for knowingly mutilating, defacing, physically defiling, maintaining on the floor or trampling upon any flag of the United States. The Flag Protection Act of 1989 was struck down by the Supreme Court decision, United States vs. Eichman, decided on June 11, 1990."
 

 
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 7:10pm »
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The U.S. flag flies outside my house 24/7 unless it is raining. ;D
 
I never could figure out why it should be illuminated at night? Why is that considered respectful of the flag?
 
I leave my flag which is in good condition out 24/7... even at night... with no light.
 
However, the California Department of Motor Vehicles office across the road from me illuminates their wind blown faded ripped to shreds flag at night.
 
So they must be more patriotic than me?  ???
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« Reply #15 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:02pm »
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I fly the flag a lot but I hate to see people wearing variations of flag shirts, hats, etc. I just don't like it.
 
Flag protection isn't something to be codified. Screwing it up isn't something I'd do nor do I like it. However, the conservative answer is to leave it alone. Making an issue of it, makes it more frequent.  
 
This is the kind of thing that so so candidates use to get a few more votes. It's rare.....for now.
 
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I have been flying my flag since we bought our house... at times I used to change my flags for different holidays. but since Sept 11,2001 the United States flag has flown proudly at my house... and now since March 5th with a spot light and my yellow ribbon on the little tree out front... To date it has 3 other ribbons one for every month that Sean is deployed I will be adding another on the 5th of July... I have never thought the flag was as beautiful as I do now... and what it symbolizes to me...   happy 4th everyone  love Ree
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:46pm »
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Beautiful picture Ree.
 
Here's hoping he'll be home soon to enjoy what he's been helping to preserve.
 
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The Flag Code is a voluntary guideline, and that's as it should be. The Supreme Court was right to strike down efforts to make it law.  
 
If it comes to a choice between shredding the flag and shredding the Constitution, I say shred the flag.
 
A lot of folks get upset when protestors burn the flag. It bothers me, too, sometimes, to a certain degree: it a waste of a perfectly good flag, and often it is done too lightly... To me, burning the U.S. flag is an extreme form of speech, to be expressed only in the most extreme circumstances... the same circumstances in which a full revolution is called for.  As TommyJ once wrote..."When in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary..."
 
In less extreme circumstances, better to fly the flag upside down, as a signal of freedom and democracy in peril and distress.
 
I realized yesterday, July 3, I did not have a flag to fly on the  
Fourth... thinking about it, I decided I should get a 13-star flag, to honor the spirit of freedom, of independence, of the questioniung of authority and the challenging of tyranny, that TJ and his friends felt when they signed the document we celebrate today.
 
But I couldn't find one in time. I will pledge to get one soon, and get it flying.  
 
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'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all'             Everyone have a fun and safe PF holiday    .........andy
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I like my version better:
 
"I pledge allegiance, not to the flag, of the United States of America, but to the Constitution for which it stands, one nation, of the people, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
 
I say this pledge a couple times a week as I attend various meetings of various local governments.
 
I have another version as well, that I think has better meaning:
 
"I pledge allegiance, to the Republic, of the United States of America, and to the Constitution which makes it possible, one nation, of the people, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
 
But the second version doesn't scan along with the usual version when reciting with other citizens.
 
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For me, I wish we still used the 13 star. Less complicated.
 
 Neither are easy to make and perhaps that's a good thing. So far, we've done well keeping it together.  It can take a beating too. What is represents is the important thing.
 
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Here is Tom M's 46 star flag and the gorgeous house attatched to it...........cool house Tom... I am moving back to MD...LOL Ree
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 5th, 2003, 12:10am »
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Thank You, Ree!  Smiley
 
Now y'all have seen the house and Expo parked in the drive. If you see a tan Expediton w/ a cooler on the front, MD plates,  and Coast Guard stickers on it, it's me. Honk and flag me down. We'll have some brews because that cooler is usually stocked w/ cold Amstels and water. BTW--the garage attached to the house is really just a roof for the beer fridge.  Cheesy
 
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on Jul 3rd, 2003, 10:35am, clavers wrote:
I fly the flag at home night and day as long as it is not raining.  Of course I fly the Confederate Flag.

 
Me too brother. ;D
 
I fly my American Flag upside down inside my garage. It is the international sign of a soldier in distress. Being a former soldier, and seeing my country heading for a disaster, I will not raise my flag in the proper manner until MY country is on the right path once agian........ Angry
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