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Started the 'zu
« on: Jul 12th, 2005, 12:04pm »
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I never go into cycle in mid-summer, thus my CB supply is limited.  Caught unprepared.
 
Kinda-shadowed for a few days, and kinda-woke up in the middle of the night with a kinda-minor headache, but back about 1.5 inches from my traditional CH spot.  
 
So doing the 'zu today.  Popped 3x Natures Way.  Will take 2 more at 6 hour intervals.
 
That said, I am not one to experiment when the hammer is falling.  In a day or two I will start my normal shotgun treatment... Pred Taper, Topamax, and CB's.  Hopefully that is not too long.
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Re: Started the 'zu
« Reply #1 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 12:11pm »
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on Jul 12th, 2005, 12:04pm, Rock_Lobster wrote:
I never go into cycle in mid-summer, thus my CB supply is limited.  Caught unprepared.
 
Kinda-shadowed for a few days, and kinda-woke up in the middle of the night with a kinda-minor headache, but back about 1.5 inches from my traditional CH spot.  
 
So doing the 'zu today.  Popped 3x Natures Way.  Will take 2 more at 6 hour intervals.
 
That said, I am not one to experiment when the hammer is falling.  In a day or two I will start my normal shotgun treatment... Pred Taper, Topamax, and CB's.  Hopefully that is not too long.  

 
Good luck bro........may the Zu work for you!
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 12:53pm »
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Keeping my fingers crossed for you!  Hope it works.  Keep us posted.
 
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 12:57pm »
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on Jul 12th, 2005, 12:04pm, Rock_Lobster wrote:

  In a day or two I will start my normal shotgun treatment... Pred Taper, Topamax, and CB's.  Hopefully that is not too long.  

 
If all goes well, you may not have to.  Cheesy
Keeping my fingers (and everythng else) crossed for ya, bro.
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 6:41pm »
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HATE those unexpected CHs!  If nothing else, I could at least predict my clusters, except this past year.  Kudzu is getting me through until I get a nuero appointment.
 
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« Reply #5 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 2:47am »
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Stick with it, Rock....it has worked wonders for me.
 
Good luck....hope you don't have to hit the triptan's.
 
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 8:41am »
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Many thx all!
 
Did 3x around noon, then 1 every 4 hours until bedtime.
 
No problems last night (wooter!).  Shadow is lessened as well.
 
Did two when I woke up, and planning the 1 every 4 hours.  Will up it to 2 if the shadow worsens.
 
No other effects of note.
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 9:21am »
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someone needs to make a Kudzu patch...
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 10:11am »
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I've been reading these Kudzu threads and I have to say I've never seen such consistent results out of all the things that people have tried, save the first alternative treatment.  
 
Suzy has had a much longer cycle than normal, albeit, sporadic among days and of varying KIPS.  
 
Sometimes life makes you busy, but when it comes to this stuff, I think you need to fit it into the schedule, though I think the fear of getting hit while doing it (as you said in another thread Jean) stops most people.  
 
Hope everyone stays PF, hang in there WroKK!!
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« Reply #9 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 11:45am »
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Right on dude!! Feel good and PF wishes!
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« Reply #10 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 1:57pm »
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BTW Rock dude, for those pesky shadows, like I said in a different thread, give the "Red Bull" a try, it's almost magical...and delicious as well....
 
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« Reply #11 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 5:21pm »
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Thx all!
 
I thought you had shitloads of 'zu down your way, vig?  Get that hoe out!
 
Yes Ozzy... I just added Red Bull to the shopping list.  Gonna give that a shot.
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 17th, 2005, 11:04am »
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Tried the Red Bull Oz... man... pounded a pair of them... shadows were gone in about 10 minutes.  Did it twice more over the next two days... worked like a charm.  Thx bro!
 
And have been symptom free for the last 48hrs... so I would have to say that the 'zu was killer.  
 
Nice week... two more warheads added to the arsenal.
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 17th, 2005, 11:00pm »
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Make sure you stay consistent, I was doing great for two weeks, then got cocky over having found a "cure" and sloughed off about the doses, just making sure I got it two times.  The more consistent I am, the better it works.  
 
Also, when I had an out of the ordinary day, stress, eating crappy, sleep deprivation, etc, I added an extra midday dose, and it seemed to do the trick.  
 
Good luck with the "zu"!!!  I swear, I just get mezmorized driving by the kudzu groves in central Georgia, thinking how they really have helped so many here with hopeless situations.  It's pitiful it's just the wrong thing, it's not derived by a mega-pharmaceutical company in a lab, the Creator made the BEST fix for many of us, but there's no money in it, so why would any company who could easily mass produce it bother???? Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: Jul 18th, 2005, 10:24am »
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Who needs pharmaceuticals with all the prescription and insurance hassles when all I have to do is go to the supermarket and get some kudzu (prevent) and some Red Bull (abortive).....
 
 
We need more people to try both, so I can go buy some shares on Red Bull... Grin
 
 
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« Reply #15 on: Jul 18th, 2005, 3:59pm »
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It totally wrokks that the 'zu is working for you, bro!!!  
Consistency, consistency, consistency....
I just can't say that enough.
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 19th, 2005, 10:52pm »
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I just bought a can of red bull today, in case I am a dumba$#$ and forget to take my morning of evening kudzu.
 
I was glad to read in Tom's post, Nani, that it's (kudzu) not really for a CURE for us episodics, but the cycle is bearable. The first couple days WERE pain free, but now that I have been on it a while, there are shadow days, some worse then others.  I just have to be consistent!!!!! Grin
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 20th, 2005, 10:57am »
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I too started on kudzu last week (taking six pills a day at regular intervals).  the first couple of days were negligible effect but the last 4 days have been pain-free until last night i had a very mild one (i tried tapering down to 4 a day).  episodic here but if the kudzu is working i wonder when i would get off to see if the cycle is over....anyone figure that out yet?
 
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on Jul 20th, 2005, 10:57am, clusterhead99 wrote:
I too started on kudzu last week (taking six pills a day at regular intervals).  the first couple of days were negligible effect but the last 4 days have been pain-free until last night i had a very mild one (i tried tapering down to 4 a day).  episodic here but if the kudzu is working i wonder when i would get off to see if the cycle is over....anyone figure that out yet?
 

 
My own experience was that I rushed it a little bit, even though I kind of sensed the beast had not yet been slain. So, as Cat Stevens said, "Take your time and think a lot, think of everything you've got, for you will still be here tomorrow, but your clusterheadache may not" (well, maybe he didn't include that last line) You'll know when it feels right to go off but, no, you don't have to take it forever.
 
 
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 20th, 2005, 11:03am »
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I'm glad it's helping you! Most episodics tried tapering off too soon and quickly realized they needed to get back on. Are you experiencing "phantom" activity? Like a CH with no pain. It seemed that as long as there was activity, the cycle was still going. I would guess that waiting for a week or so after all activity has ceased might be a good time to try and taper. I'm chronic, so I'm only stating what I've read. Good luck, keep us posted and PF wishes, nani
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« Reply #20 on: Jul 20th, 2005, 5:36pm »
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very interesting...this phantom concept.   feels like there should be a HA with some pressure and weird sensations but no pain comes.....
i agree...i'm back on now...maybe i'll try in a week to taper off again....will keep you guys posted...thanks for the info
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 21st, 2005, 11:48am »
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Indeed CH99... I too sensed this 'phantom' thingy this time around... the pressure at my spot when the 'zu was working.  
 
But as of now, I am off the 'zu and PF.  Not due until Dec/Jan... so lets hope it stays that way.
 
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« Reply #22 on: Jul 21st, 2005, 2:19pm »
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that's great news....i'm looking forward to finishing this cycle so i can have some nice cold ones again Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 22nd, 2005, 12:49pm »
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Fuck.  Went off it waaay to soon.  No shadows then BANG... fucking hit right now.  Only a mild one, but it still blows
 
Back on the 'zu and gulped down a handful of Pred.  Will see how tomorrow looks before I see if this becomes a Pred taper.
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« Reply #24 on: Jul 22nd, 2005, 12:58pm »
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Been thinking a cycle was coming in and sure enough, got hit last night. Not too bad of a hit but a hit nonetheless, clarified whether I was really coming into cycle or not for me. So, i'm also back on the Zu as of this morn. O2 coming this afternoon.
 
Have to admit the sick curiousity of wondering whether a cycle was real or not had me go over to neighbors for beers last night. Knew there was a good chance it would happen. Man, these things are kind of sicko when you do goofy stuff like that. My twisted logic was that if I get the cycle roaring I can then "get'er done".
 
So, off the beer, on the zu and a good boy from here out.
 
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