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BMoneeTheMoneeMan
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Shroomy update
« on: Jul 3rd, 2005, 1:29pm » |
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Last weekend (in June) was my second dose of the clusterbuster treatment. The few days after that were pretty bad CH days and i had to break down and take Trex....like 3 nites in a row. The cycle had gotten pretty bad and had fully taken hold. I was trying to break the new cycle before it had firmly taken hold with the shrooms, the only thing i was on was O2. This past week was so bad, i decided to taper back onto verapimil. 180SR a day since thursday, going to go to 360 tomorrow.
I was trying to do the shroom treatment with no other drugs in my system, but the cycle got pretty bad and i had to take trex. I just got into a bad spot and i needed the trex like a heroin freak. It was like i couldnt help myself, but thank GOD for trex, huh?
I got hit bad sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday nite pretty bad, at least 3 CHs a nite. Then thursday the beast came to my office early in the morning and cornholed the shit out of me, but thursday nite was not that bad. Then i had bad shadows almost all day friday, but an ok nite....only 1 or 2 moderate CH. Then saturday nite was actually pretty good. Only 1 moderate CH and it went away with O2.
I do take 9mg melatonin 50mg dyphenhydramine every nite.
I think that my experience with the shroom treatment was typical of some. I understand that the first few days after a dose might not show any relief, but then days 4 and 5 do show relief. It seems that i had the same thing happen.
Now, though, i have trex and verapimil in my system and know the shrooms would not be a good idea. We'll see how the next few days go, hopefully the shrooms maybe didnt 'break' the cycle, but it would be nice to see if my cycle "bends".
Any insights into my experience?
PF wishes to all
BMonee
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #1 on: Jul 4th, 2005, 9:27am » |
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Hi BMonee,
I can only offer you my opinion, I'm sure others with more knowledge will come along on a follow-up.
It is very common several days after dosing to receive large and frequent hits. After that they usually slow down and taper. The imitrex probably set you back to zero. I can perfectly understand your taking the injections, I've done it myself two times in about 18 months. There has been some discussion among us that melatonin probably interfers with the treatment and would be best if not taken in a week prior to the mushrooms.
I have just completed a total detox of verapamil. It had taken me about 3 weeks and I was slammed, but now I'm back to where I was--no better or worse while taking the verapamil. Some of us take verapamil concurrently with the treatment, but others who don't appear to do better.
You might want to consider the small piece under the tongue technique for aborting headaches while you're detoxing from trex, melatonin, etc.
When you had taken your doses, how much did you take and what effect did it have on you while dosing?
During a full blown cycle, it usually takes me three doses, spaced one week apart of about 1.5 grams per dose---This is my results.
Good luck,
John
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Yes remember that while getting post dose hits it IS possible to use either sips or sputniks to deal with these without impacting on the treatment. The reason being that very small doses do not seem to shut the door yet are somehow able to help with hits. Don't ask me why because I don't know. Most people also report that these small doses work better than trex, and that the whole treatment makes O2 much more effective.
No idea why - but there you go.
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #3 on: Jul 4th, 2005, 10:26pm » |
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i havent done the shroom route cause i cant find any to do it with im thinking of growing some still researching but i have had good success with lsa not perfect but i was forced to take vicodin while doing the treatment wich i feel effected the outcome and i did not now melatonin would do that either until i read this post i havent taken it in over a week same with the pain killer so tonight i just drank down a good dose of hbwr seed soaked in water for 12 hours there is nothing else in my system so i hope this works i havent slept thru one night in a few days now and its taking its toll on the mind i only wish io had o2 to abort with the ice thing is not working to well anymore , i too have taken a very small as in tiny dose of lsa when i get hit and it does seem to kill the beast not quick but it does also i blast down alot of water that helps too i think to be honest im way to tired to be sure just for the record i took 15 seeds soaked in water , you jus have to be pacient
man i suck at spelling oh well im over it
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #4 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 5:10pm » |
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 Hang in there with the treatment. Flash and pinky talked me through it and I swear....the treatment saved my life. Still do a dose each year around Thanksgiving and don't really have any headaches to speek of. The ones I do get don't wake me and will go away with a cup of coffee. Some one mentioned 1.5 grams as a dose. I do approximately 6 grams (dried) each dose. Seems to work, what can I say. Keep the faith.
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #5 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 5:30pm » |
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Good to hear from you, Ike! Glad it's still working for you!! 
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #6 on: Jul 12th, 2005, 6:03pm » |
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Quote:| Some one mentioned 1.5 grams as a dose. I do approximately 6 grams (dried) each dose. Seems to work, what can I say. Keep the faith. |
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Warning Will!!!....This dose size (6g) is not for the faint of heart nor for the average person for that matter.
Congrats on the PF time Ike....the therapy works pretty darned well if I do say so myself. I just wanted to jump in and warn (others) that the dose quantity you have been doing is way above the normal dose for the average person. You may have a higher tolerance for it than the average "joe". And adding, that different strains are more potent than others. I would hate to see someone see that and think "more is better" and get into something much more than they bargained for is all. But for you it is working out just fine!! 
FYI.....the cazman is busy dealing with some other issues, but did drop a note that he is seeing a nice turn in his treatment and was on about 4-5 days of PF so far and counting with the seeds.
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #7 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 12:22pm » |
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Thanks for the input and you are probably more correct than I. I have my supply "freeze dried" and they are probably a little less potent now than they were when I packed them. It has been a year or so. I do know that I put them up into six gram units. And you may be correct in that my tolerance may be higher than some. Regardless, I attribute my lack of attacks to the therapy. 
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #8 on: Jul 13th, 2005, 12:46pm » |
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on Jul 13th, 2005, 12:22pm, Ikeyboy wrote:| Regardless, I attribute my lack of attacks to the therapy. |
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Hello Ike. Thanks for returning with the report. You are case history number 25 and it's always great to hear back from people with single or double digit case numbers. Gives all the triple digit people confidence for the future.
If you haven't been in contact with Dr. Sewell at Harvard, I'm sure he'd love to hear from you and your extended period of success.
asewell@mclean.harvard.edu
Thanks for the update,
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Re: Shroomy update
« Reply #9 on: Jul 15th, 2005, 10:55pm » |
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Ike! Long time no hear!
I echo Bob's sentiments -- it's great to hear again from the pioneers, especially when the news is good. Glad to hear the treatment is still effective for you.
I will add my cautions to the others, though -- 6 dry grams is a VERY large dose for the average person using average strength psilocybe cubensis. I would very strongly discourage anyone from taking anywhere near that quantity as a first dose. Better to start with maybe 1.0 grams and see how it goes. Yes, it is true that some people are exceptionally resistant to the effects of psilocybin, but such people are few and far between. It seems you are one of those people.
Thanks for the update, bro.
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