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Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« on: Jun 10th, 2005, 1:43pm » |
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I am a chronic victim, use prednisoen taper and verapamil(up to 1200 mg). Currently up to the max and using O2, Imitrex and Zomig as acute defenses. Recently found Sinusbuster online and I swear it has been very helpful. It usually stops the headache in its tracks, though sometimes it returns after the effect wears off. Takes some getting used to as it burns a bit, but my Neuro was glad to see that it was available as a spray and told me to run with it. Willing to try anything!
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #1 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 1:46pm » |
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You got a lot of medications going on there ---
Have you done a search on the Sinusbusters previously on these boards? There is a search function that might help you and you can see the feedback that exists regarding sinusbusters.
Try this thread:
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=chspecific;a ction=display;num=1113713851
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #2 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 2:37pm » |
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Good luck with the pepper spray but know this.....if you mix your imitrex and zomig you'll have no need for any of the meds since CH will be non existant=== Ya might kill yourself!
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #3 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 3:11pm » |
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #4 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 3:19pm » |
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #5 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 3:49pm » |
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A variation on the capsaisin. Our old friend Paco could abort an attack with a dash of tobasco under his tongue. He even handed out those tiny little bottle of tobasco at the atlanta OUCH convention.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #6 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 4:07pm » |
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Many more than have tried it are those who try to plug Sinusbuster here. 
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #7 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 4:24pm » |
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I'm holding fire until I see his two previous posts!
Just so you know I'm here, I just can't get it to pull them up for me right now
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #8 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 4:29pm » |
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Birdman doesn't strike me as a troll. He may have found relief with it. Vig reported positive results when he accidentally got hot sauce in his eye (  OUCH) during a hit. Personally, I'd never try it. And I sure as hell wouldn't buy Sinusbuster brand....
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #9 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 8:03pm » |
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Actually, for vig it was the oil of the peppers he was cutting up. It was on his hands. I have my stick ready but not about to pounce yet.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #10 on: Jun 10th, 2005, 9:49pm » |
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It was pepper oil on my hand from cooking Jalapenos for dinner.
The headache was very teary and harsh.
I rubbed my sore eye and immediately realized what I had done and instead of burning, it was a warm, buzzing feeling, slowly coating my eye and going back down the trigeminal nerve. The attack was gone within minutes. I've done this again a few times and it does work for me, but only once in a while. If the attack isn't teary or wet, and the pepper oil doesn't move around and get diluted, then it burns. I also believe it has to go in the eye to get to the trigeminal nerve, not through the nose like SinusBuster and Civamide (a synthetic Capsaicin that was studied about a year or two ago.)
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #11 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 2:48am » |
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Hello Birdman,
That's great the the pepper spray worked for you and I'm not doubting you at this point. For may of us that have had CH's for years have found different things (out of the ordinary) that actually worked. But, we've learned that it was always a fluke and didn't work next time around.
So now I have questions for you if you don't mind responding. We are a bunch of inquisitive people.
How long has this pepper spray been working for you ?
How long have you had cluster headaches ?
How long have you been chronic ?
Does Trex and Zomig abort your CH's ? (I hope you're not mixing those triptans)
Does 02 abort your CH's ?
Do you take 1200mg of verapamil daily as a preventive ? (if so, does it keep your attacks at bay ?) If not why keep taking it ?)
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #12 on: Jun 11th, 2005, 11:42am » |
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Civamide worked for me, but it's very uncomfortable and it takes days for it to work. The headaches were much milder and my episode ended much, much sooner.
That said, I've had much better success with psychedelics. Also, I don't think Civamide is approved for CH. I was lucky enough to participate in a study.
I know nothing about Sinusbuster except that apparently they use shady marketing tactics. But if it works for you, then run with it!
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #13 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 4:24pm » |
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Ive just been to the OUCH UK conference today and capsaicin was one of the things mentioned by Professor Goadsby under the heading of "Foolish things people have tried" He did actually conduct a trial into it which failed miserably and clinicaly proved to be of no help whatsover. He politely suggested there might be better places to shove the peppers!
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #14 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 4:58pm » |
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SinusBusters worked great for me...everyone should try it, its worth the money for no pain.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #15 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 5:09pm » |
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on Jun 12th, 2005, 4:24pm, LeLimey wrote:| He politely suggested there might be better places to shove the peppers! |
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #16 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 5:31pm » |
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lil dick..
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
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« Reply #18 on: Jun 12th, 2005, 7:12pm » |
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Troll or a poser I cant figure it out which one yet, which one are you lildick with the big ASS.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
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on Jun 12th, 2005, 7:12pm, maffumatt wrote:| Troll or a poser I cant figure it out which one yet, which one are you lildick with the big ASS. |
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #20 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 8:04am » |
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Sorry for the delay in posting. I am definetly not a salesperson. I didn;t think I would get such a neg response. Thought I would share something that helped. My apoligies to those who think I have other motive. I have had Ch's for 19 years, I am now 35. They began about three months after a concussion, not sure if related. Started using pepper spray when I couldn;t get enough trex from the insurance company. I never mix Zomig and trex but get both so I have enough supply. The verapamil keeps most pain at bay except usually one a day in the morning. That's when I use O2 and pepper spray.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #21 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 9:10am » |
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on Jun 12th, 2005, 4:24pm, LeLimey wrote:| He politely suggested there might be better places to shove the peppers! |
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Owww! Oh that burns!
What a great name Professor Goadsby has? There's a Monty Python sketch in there somewhere.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #22 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 9:46am » |
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Sinus Buster is NOT worth checking into...
my $.02
Capsaicin may be an analgesic, but this is not ready for prime time.
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #23 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 9:49am » |
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I just don't understand why so many have a problem with this treatment. It's a medically proven effective treatment for clusters!
Quote:A double-blind placebo-controlled trial of intranasal capsaicin for cluster headache.
Marks DR, Rapoport A, Padla D, Weeks R, Rosum R, Sheftell F, Arrowsmith F
Clinical Immunology Unit, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston 92114.
It has been suggested that treatment of cluster headache (CH) patients with topical capsaicin may desensitize sensory neurons by depleting the nerve terminals of substance P. We attempted to determine whether capsaicin is effective in aborting CH attacks. Patients in acute cluster were randomized to receive either capsaicin or placebo in the ipsilateral nostril for 7 days. Patients recorded the severity of each headache for 15 days. Headaches on days 8-15 of the study were significantly less severe in the capsaicin group vs the placebo group. There was also a significant decrease in headache severity in the capsaicin group on days 8-15 compared to days 1-7, but not in the placebo group. Episodic CH patients appeared to benefit more than chronic CH patients. These results indicate that intranasal capsaicin may provide a new therapeutic option for the treatment of this disease. |
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Re: Anybody tried Capsaicin pepper spray?
« Reply #24 on: Jun 13th, 2005, 10:01am » |
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I think there really is something to this theory - just ask Paco! He was always touting the wonders of hot peppers.
Mike's often gotten relief from eating hot peppers at attack onset- the capsaicin has abortive properties. It's been proven time and time again.
It's not a cure, but it's definitely a weapon to have in the arsenal. Sometimes I think we might be a little to quick to shout "snake oil".
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