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Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« on: Jan 29th, 2005, 9:47pm » |
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I just got something from the DME people that is supposed to be my non-rebreather mask. But it doesnt seem to be working like I thought it would.
Isnt the O2 supposed to go into a little bag, and then you breath it out of the bag, through a 1-way valve into the mask? Isnt there supposed to be a 1-way valve there to keep your exhale outta there?
My mask also has holes in the sides for air movement...If air was supposed to be mixing with the O2, wouldnt the simple nose piece be ok?
And when I hook up the O2 and turn it on, it doesnt fill up the bag at all, the O2 just escapes outta the mask cause there is no valve there or anything.
Am I mistaken? What is wrong?
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #1 on: Jan 29th, 2005, 9:56pm » |
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My mask looks like the one in the Oxygen info link on the left. But the only way my bag fills up is when I blow into it.
What is up?
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #2 on: Jan 29th, 2005, 10:29pm » |
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Those circular valves on the side are to let the air that you exhale go OUT.
When you inhale they should close(the rubber circles will stick to the holes)
Before you use the mask each time(not each breath) you need to fill up the bag by placing you fingers over the valve that's above the bag inside the mask. This closes the valve and inflates the bag so you can start to use it. When you breathe out it will close that valve and the bag will inflate again. The valve is circular maybe the size of a nickel.
Hope this helps,
Be well and PF,
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #3 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 12:17am » |
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First, there is no nickel sized valve that is in the mask. I can look right through the hole. I have taken the bag off of the mask and there is no valve in the hole.
and you say "the rubber circles will stick to the holes", I do not have any rubber circles on my mask. the holes are totally open and there is nothing there to block air passage.
I dont think I got all the parts to this mask.
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #4 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 12:35am » |
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does not appear so.
I think that is called a partial rebreather mask but may be mistaken.
You can tape the holes on the side up.....not sure what to do with the hole near the bag though I've used bandaids in the past...
I personally would just breath from the hose until I can get the non-rebreather or....
buy your own....
[url] http://www.sands.ca/airway/index.htm[/url]
you can probably find other sites online to order them or go to your closest med supply store....only about $2.00
good luck!
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #5 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 12:40am » |
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Damnit!!
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #6 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 12:47am » |
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It will work just not near as well.
Take it from the hose if you need. seriously! will not harm ya. I know this is a pain in the ass but it will bring relief too! just regulate manually in between breaths turn on and off to conserve......
Where do you live?
Maybe there is someone (one of us) locally who can spot you one or PM me your address and I will see what I can do.
Relax and try not to stress over this one.....at least you have the tank and a hose right? This will certainly bring down the level if O2 helps you.
Take it light!
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #7 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 3:06am » |
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I'm in Portland Oregon
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #8 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 10:31am » |
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I have to tape up the holes in my mask as well and pull the mask away to exhale. I wonder if insted of a non-rebreather we should be using a HIGH CONCENTRATION
O2 MASK. Anyone know what these are ??? 
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #9 on: Jan 30th, 2005, 2:39pm » |
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BMonee,
Definately sounds like you got what is called a partial non-rebreather, you need a total non-rebreather. Check out this link:
http://www2.mooremedical.com/index.cfm?PG=CTL&CS=HOM&FN=ProductD etail&PID=11275
At $1.59 apiece, it will probably be more for shipping that the actuall cost of the mask, but trust me, it's worth it. Just make sure you get one with the safety vents, or if you buy one without, take the elastic band off.
Magick,
I'm don't think you can get anything that will deliver a higher concentration of O2 other than a demnad valve mask, which are very expensive and can suck down a D or E sized cylinder in about 3-5 minutes. A larger cylinder may be more practical for use with one of those. If either of you have any questions, please IM me, I can provide some more links and sources for equipment.
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #10 on: Jan 31st, 2005, 12:09am » |
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The best setup I have found is a scuba reg. But I just happen to have a few lying around. I have tried a non-rebreather mask but could not stand the thing touching my face. I put it on a 320cf bottle of o2 and it will last over a month. You can get that size bottle at any welders supply without a prescription. You if have any questions about setting something like this up PM me and I'll do my best to help.
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #11 on: Jan 31st, 2005, 10:40pm » |
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Thanks so much for your help.
I have taken apart the mask and only use the bag. I breathe in through my mouth and out through my nose. 1 thing that I have noticed is that the bag is very small. I do have big lungs, but I can inhale WAY more then the bag holds. so when I am taking O2, I cant breathe deeply? I have to breathe pretty shallow and slowly. Is that normal?
Thanks again and PF wishes!
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #12 on: Feb 7th, 2005, 11:11am » |
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if you are breathing and the bag deflates you need to turn up the flow on your regulator. you can not tell me you can breathe in more than 15 liters in one breath
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #13 on: Feb 7th, 2005, 10:09pm » |
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Hell yes, are you kidding me? I have the reg on at it's maximun - 15lpm, and I can easily take in 1 full bag of O2 in just a half a breath. I dont want to waste the O2, but the next time I need it, I will see if I can take in 2 or 3 bags full of air.
That bag cant be 15 liters. It would take a full minute just to fill it up. My mask looks the same as the one pitures here on this site. It looks like the same thing.
You saying that you can't take in 1 bag of air in 1 breath?
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Re: Need O2 non-rebreather help STAT!!!
« Reply #14 on: Feb 9th, 2005, 9:24am » |
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Hey - I have seen first hand - people emptying that bag in one breathe. It can be done - and it is done........
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