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Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« on: Jan 27th, 2005, 10:56pm »
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I only have a nose piece for my O2 and the reg only goes to 8 lpm.  It only works for me about 60% of the time.  People say that if I get the non-rebreather, my success rate will go up.
Why is the non-rebreather so important?  
If I got an increased flow, do you think that will help me?
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #1 on: Jan 27th, 2005, 11:44pm »
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on Jan 27th, 2005, 10:56pm, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Why is the non-rebreather so important?  

Decide for yourself.  
Go here and order some: http://www.med-worldwide.com/page177.html  You need a $10 order (6 masks).
 
on Jan 27th, 2005, 10:56pm, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
If I got an increased flow, do you think that will help me?

Yes. Get some masks first..
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #2 on: Jan 28th, 2005, 6:11am »
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BMonee,
When I was first prescribed O2, my Neuro prescribed exactly the same thing - nose tubes and 8 L/M O2. This did not work at all for me, thought I might be one of the ones that O2 wouldn't work on. Double checked the O2 link on the side of the page and went back and told him I needed the non-rebreather mask and a rate up to 15 L/M. Also referred him to this site as to where I was getting the info. He said he never heard of 12 -15 L/M, but prescribed as I requested.  IT WORKED AND WORKS DAMN GOOD.
 
This is my understanding of the mechanics of O2 treatment in my uneducated layman terms: It seems you need to get 100% oxygen into your blood stream. When the levels are high enough in your blood, the brain senses this higher than normal level, it then sends signals to clamp down the blood vessels which helps for vessel dilation resulting in the cluster attack. Once the vessels start constricting, relief starts, hence the abort.  
 
I'm sure others will be along whom can more accurately define this mechanism, but this is how I understand it works.
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #3 on: Jan 28th, 2005, 11:33am »
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You need a high flow of o2 to saturate your system.  8 lpm isn't high enough flow .. .it needs to be 12 to 15 lpm.  When using a canula (the nose thingie) it's not high flow enough and much can 'escape' ...we didn't have a non-rebreather, but were able to get a regular mask .. . and it worked WAY better than the canula (which the tards at the o2 place tried to give us first).  I can only imagine how much faster the o2 would have worked had he had the right mask.  Oh, and do NOT put the strap over your head, if you fall asleep and drain the tank you run out of air!
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #4 on: Jan 28th, 2005, 11:48am »
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With a nasal cannula, you will be breathing some air - which is 78% nitrogen.  More oxygen = better for aborting.  
 
Read the thread "Dr. Rozen's CH Therapy Update" for a detailed discussion.
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #5 on: Jan 28th, 2005, 2:47pm »
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Another mask question:
 
It says here on this package ...
 
"Single Use"  
 
Does that mean i can only use a mask once? Or is it ok to reuse them?  
 
They only sent me one (finally)
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #6 on: Jan 28th, 2005, 8:02pm »
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I would thing that single use means only use for one patient.
 
After all, you wouldn't want to use a mask that had been used by someone else, would you?
 
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Re: Why is non-rebreather so impotent??
« Reply #7 on: Jan 28th, 2005, 8:20pm »
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Thanks Kris  Smiley
 
Makes sense.
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