Yet Another Bulletin Board

Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 25th, 2024, 2:44pm

Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Member Map Member Map Login Login Register Register
Clusterheadaches.com Message Board « Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implants »


   Clusterheadaches.com Message Board
   New Message Board Archives
   Medications, Treatments, Therapies 2004
(Moderator: DJ)
   Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implants
« Previous topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implants  (Read 313 times)
floridian
Guest

Email

Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implants
« on: Aug 27th, 2004, 8:33am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Quote:
Brain. 2004 Aug 25 [Epub ahead of print]  
 
    Long-term follow-up of bilateral hypothalamic stimulation for intractable cluster headache.
 
    Leone M, Franzini A, Broggi G, May A, Bussone G.
 
    Istituto Nazionale Neurologico Carlo Besta, Milan, Italy.
 
    Summary We provide a detailed case history of the first patient to receive bilateral hypothalamic stimulation to control severe bilateral chronic intractable cluster headaches initially occurring mostly on the left. These attacks were accompanied by life-threatening hypertensive crises and a grave deterioration in the patient's psychological state. Destructive surgery to the left trigeminal was absolutely contraindicated. Electrode implantation and continuous stimulation of the left posterior inferior hypothalamus resolved the left attacks. After four destructive operations on the right trigeminal, right side attacks recurred. Electrode implantation (with continuous stimulation) to the right resulted in immediate resolution of the right side pain and the hypertensive crises. On several occasions, both known and unknown to the patient, the stimulators were turned off: in all cases, crises reappeared and in all instances disappeared relatively quickly after turning stimulation back on. Pain crises have never reappeared when ipsilateral stimulation is ongoing. The only side effects were observed during long-term bilateral stimulation, consisting of transient vertigo and bradycardia. After 42 months (left) and 31 months (right) of follow-up, the patient remains crisis free without the need for pharmacological prophylaxis.
IP Logged
notseinfeld
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Enough is Enough.        Vote Libertarian

  krilldocument  
WWW Email

Gender: male
Posts: 648
Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #1 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 10:03am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

WOW!
IP Logged

-----------Democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. ---------------------
IndianaJohn
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****




Into the jaws of the Beast we ride!

   
Email

Gender: male
Posts: 643
Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #2 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 10:10am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Not for sure, but I think that Un_solved went through this...
IP Logged

Did my brains fall out or is this headache over?
pubgirl
Guest

Email

Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #3 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 4:48pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

No, Unsolved had a temporary bilateral ONSI (Occipital Nerve Stimulator Implant) which wasn't successful. This is NOT  the hypothalamic implant mentioned in this extract (only the Italians are doing this I think - Belgians did some and had a death). Current evidence here (nothing conclusive yet as few people have had it done) suggests that the ONSI needs to be in place for a period of time for the electrodes to held securely by scar tissue and the stimulator to be calibrated to work properly.
 
The first unilateral ONSI here resulted in the CH jumping ship to the other side, so looks pointless
 
Wendy
« Last Edit: Aug 27th, 2004, 4:59pm by pubgirl » IP Logged
ZAIRA
New Board Hall of Famer
Italy 
*****




Brave to Stand !!!

   
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 1577
Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #4 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:02pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I have read it in Italian and I am so happy for Marco. Because he really deserves a break! Really! I feel lucky if I think about him.
 
on Aug 27th, 2004, 4:48pm, pubgirl wrote:
(only the Italians are doing this I think - Belgians did some and had a death). Wendy

 
Right, Wendy!
 
 
 
 
P.S. (BTW, even if Italy doesn't invest too much in research, we CH's are lucky because there are Institutes like "Carlo Besta" of Milan where neurologists like Bussone (my neuro Grin) or Leone are doing their best for saving our lives!)
IP Logged



Love yourself, Love others, Love often, Forever!
pubgirl
Guest

Email

Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #5 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:06pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Hi Zaira
 
It's good to know that the Italian and Uk doctors are trying to push the boundaries where Ch treatment is concerned.
 
But I still wouldn't have the hypothalamic implant even if I was desperate as the risks are just too high. I can only assume that your friend in Italy must have run out of options.
 
Wendy
IP Logged
ZAIRA
New Board Hall of Famer
Italy 
*****




Brave to Stand !!!

   
Email

Gender: female
Posts: 1577
Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #6 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 5:25pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify


Wendy.... yes, Marco was so desperate that he decided to do that operation... no meds was working....  
 
And now OUCH Italia has a girl that received bilateral hypothalamic stimulation... and, sadly, still she is having hard attacks...  Cry  
 
Honestly, it will be the last thing will do for CH right now...
 
 Cry
 
IP Logged



Love yourself, Love others, Love often, Forever!
Kevin_M
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****



withered branches grow green again.

   


Gender: male
Posts: 6184
Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #7 on: Aug 27th, 2004, 7:34pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

on Aug 27th, 2004, 4:48pm, pubgirl wrote:
No, Unsolved had a temporary bilateral ONSI (Occipital Nerve Stimulator Implant) which wasn't successful.

 
Wendy, true this is what Michael had, however, I think when I talked to him in Nashville he was planning on having this operation done too.  I believe he has mentioned this online somewhere awhile back.  He's been missing lately though.
 
Kevin M
IP Logged
pubgirl
Guest

Email

Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #8 on: Aug 28th, 2004, 2:13am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify Remove Remove

Kevin
 
Are you sure?
Not sure where he is going to have it done as as far as I know it's not being done in the States, and it definitely isn't here as PG currently considers it too high risk and little evidence it works
 
Michael/Unsolved
Check in ,where are you?
 
Wendy
IP Logged
Kevin_M
CH.com Alumnus
New Board Hall of Famer
USA 
*****



withered branches grow green again.

   


Gender: male
Posts: 6184
Re: Fresh Research - Bilateral Hypothalamus Implan
« Reply #9 on: Aug 28th, 2004, 11:07am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Wendy,
 
He mentioned he would be the first in this country to have it done.  Last I heard, he went to U of M and did well for a short time but then something stopped working for him.  He was slated to have this operation done if that last treatment didn't work.  
  The doctor from South America at the convention spoke of this operation and on the break following that, I was talking with Michael about it.  This is what he was refering to because he quoted me all the same results at that time and the countries in which it had been done, mentioning the same two countries and the amount of people that had it done.  It seemed he was well briefed on it, even though he was not in attendance for the doctor's speech about it.  I believe Thomas was with me during that conversation with him, because I remember looking at Thomas briefly before mentioning the death in Denmark to Michael, I was hesitant to tell him.  I'm not sure Michael knew about that but he seemed to welcome the operation.  Michael replied he knew about the death and mentioned something about how that operation went wrong, he knew about it and some details too.  
 
Kevin M
IP Logged
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

« Previous topic | Next topic »


Clusterheadaches.com Message Board » Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.3.1!
YaBB © 2000-2003. All Rights Reserved.


©1998-2010 Web Vision Enterprises All rights reserved. All information on this site is protected by international copyright laws. You may not re-distribute any information from this site without written permission from Web Vision Enterprises and the webmaster of this site. Violators will be prosecuted.
You may view our privacy policy and financial disclosure statement here

test rss