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scrambler terapy
« on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 11:41am »
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Huh
 
 
Hi You'll ,
 
Doe anyone do knowledge of this terapy,cure,machine???
It 'd consist in a system to lie the brain .Brain would not get or do not issue any signal of pain!I heard something of that form here ....
It could be  great for all of us ..it sounds good to me ....
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 1:08pm »
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Guiliano,
 
I have never heard of this, and couldn't find anything on a quick search of the web.  What can you tell us about it?
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 1:25pm »
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I've run a quick google search using the phrase
 
"scrambler therapy pain control"
 
Came up with alot of hits but I'm *not*real good at putting all the pieces together of it all right now...part dopymax part sleep deprivation...lol.  but go for it.  What little I do get from it appears to be a sort of electro stimulous process that either is meant to mask or interupt the pain signals.  Isn't this what the electrodes in the deep brain stimulation surgery is meant to do, and isn't that risky?  Maybe this is was the the reseach that led to the idea of implanting the "trodes" into the hypothalamus to start with?  I'm grasping here I know...and don't know but I'm not awake enough to read it all right now and make sense out of it.  
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« Reply #3 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 2:35pm »
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Ok, I found a few links to: Transcutaneous Electromanipulation by Nervous Patterns Scrambler
 
It seems to be real medical research. Most of it is in Italian.
Here a link to a study written in English. http://www.joplink.net/prev/200301/24.html
 
Transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation (TENS) is real and well researched.  For this 'scrambler' they seem to use the same technology to confuse the nerves that transmit pain.  
 
One of the good things about TENS is that the electrodes are put on the outside of the body.  The electricity flows through the tissues underneath.  I think to get this to work for clusters, somebody would have to get the electrodes into the sinuses as close to the trigeminal nerve as possible.  
 
One thing that seems to be different about the scrambler (as far as I can tell) is that it monitors nerve signals and adjusts the electric signals to specifically cancel out pain. Other electric implants seem to use a 'pacemaker' metaphor with a constant frequency, while the scrambler seems adaptive to different nerve transmission patterns.  
 
I'm still reading the article linked to above - for that study, it was to control visceral pain (from the abdomen).  Not sure if it would work for something so close to the brain but maybe.  Maybe a micro-electrode upstream of a cluster-spot would be useful.  "honey, you seen my remote?"
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