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rachel1
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AM I ADDICTED TO FIORINAL 3???
I have done EVERYTHING else available on the planet. Now I take FIORINAL WITH CODIENE MORNING,NOON A AND AT BEDTIME ..
GUESS WHAT? NO HEADACHES. NEVER, AT ALL!!!!!!!
BUT HAVE I TURNED INTO A DRUG ADDICT??????
NOT TO MENTION WHAT THE STUFF IS DOING TO MY LIVER, INTERNAL ORGANS ETC.
ANYONE ELSE DOING THIS?
RACHEL.
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Dude, sorry to hear that. We mainly hear that narcs have little impact on clusters, this is a fairly week narcotic, relatively speaking. If you have clusters Fiorinal is not likely to do much, try some preventative meds such as Topamax or shrooms, ask your Doc how to detox off of the fiorinal. Again, if your having clusters that stuff won't do much of anything to relive the pain.
Been there, done that.
Lee
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Re: AM
« Reply #2 on: Aug 9th, 2003, 5:47pm » |
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If Fiorinal is killing your HA, my guess is that it isn't CH. How did you get enough prescribed to you to be able to have that much to take? Narcs are "normally" prescribed in limited amounts for just that reason. At any rate, Lee gave the best advice.
Most narcs are for moderate pain at best...CH is NOT, by any means, categorized as moderate pain. Seek some professional assistance as suggested by Lee, and I would suggest doing so quickly. The longer you wait, the more difficult it can be to detox.
Best wishes!
Chris
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First of all, addiction is a strong word that is thrown around everytime someone takes a narcotic. Dependence & tolorance are the down side to taking narcotics. True addiction is extremely rare.
If you find yourself taking the medication just to have a good time, or because you feel "not quite right". You find yourself lying to your doctor about the place or severity of your pain, just to get more pills... then you may be or are definitely on the road to true addiction. But if you take your medication, only for your pain. Take it within it's limits as prescribed...you are not addicted. As I had said you can become dependent, which means that extended use of a narcotic can cause a "withdrawal syndrome" when narcotics are stopped abruptly. A withdrawal syndrome is usually successfully treated by having your doctor slowly "wean" yourself off of the drug. Tolerance ... is the need for larger doses to have the same effect as it did when the drug was started.
You should definitely visit your doctor. One of the main reasons for my hatred of the way the word addiction is thrown around is because it has a stigma about it...which makes people ashamed to see their doctor when in actuality there is no true addiction & your doctor can help you through education & support. The letter of the Law actually makes it illegal for a doctor to treat a "True addiction" unless they are a part of an accredited Drug Treatment Facility. However, your Doctor can treat Tolerance & Dependence to Medications. ???
Taking Fioricet w/Codeine 3 times a day is definitely within prescribing limits.
See your doctor. Talk to him/her. If you truly have Clusters (take the quiz...button on the left), there are better treatments available. Imitrex normally took my cluster away 90 percent of the time. But you can't take imitrex if you have vascular issues (Heart, blood clots, etc...) Oxygen has done wonders for many sufferers, but it has to be used the right way. There's some great info on oxygen under "General Posts".
Good luck
Jim
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 10th, 2003, 11:57am » |
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Sorry to hear your situation. I am unlucky enough to have both eposodic clusters and migraines. Like others have said, if you really do have clusters, Fiornal 3 won't even touch them. Before I was diagnosed, I was taking up to 3 at a time for a ch - didn't matter, plus, by the time the med gets in your system, the ch is usually gone on its own anyway. I am no doctor, but it sounds as if you may have migraines. The fiornal 3 absolutely helps me with mild to moderate migraines (usually tension) because it helps relax your muscles and your mind. I can see where this med could even prevent this type of migraine. Verapamil is excellent (or Veralin) as a preventative for both ch's and migraines. I still get them both, but not near as severe. Any headpain will make you feel like worm crap - I can understand where one could get used to the overall "content, happy" feeling that comes with fiornal 3. You might try weaning yourself off it slowly in a determination to find out exactly what type of headache you are getting. If you find you are taking the fiornal because of the fear of your pain coming back- you might want to try a preventative and/or Imitrex. It works much better than any codiene med! Don't forget to take the cluster quiz on this site - trust me, if you have clusters, you will IMMEDIATELY know it from the symptoms and stories on this site. Migraines affect you totally different.
Kim
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Re: AM thanks for the advice
« Reply #5 on: Aug 10th, 2003, 6:42pm » |
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???I appreciate all the advice, keep it coming. I don't feel so alone and ashamed in the world. I feel like a drug addict mainly because I have to hide the pills from my husband and kids (they think I have a drug problem because of what they hear on tv etc.)
And YES I have been diagnosed with CLASSIC CLUSTERS... I am in my mid 30s, get them suddenly in the middle of the night almost everyday. And YES I have tried EVERYTHING. Verapimil, which did stop the headaches but put me into a depressed, sickly, horrible state for six months. Imitrex, zomig, standol, nerrontin, and mean really YOU NAME IT, I TRIED IT! Oxygen, water, meditation, nerve blocks, which I STILL get, neck traction stretching, phychotherapy, message, heat and cold packs. I can't keep up! I was even at MAYO as a case study patient in New York... NOTHING HELPED expept narcotic but interestingly NOT VICODIN, PEROSET, PERCODAN OR EVEN DARVON.... ONLY FIORINAL WITH CODIENE??? I find this very interesting and would love to know why only this (with a combo of very strong coffee) does the trick?????
Thanks so much for responding.
Rachel
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Re: AM thanks for the advice
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on Aug 10th, 2003, 6:42pm, rachel1 wrote:| ??? YES I have been diagnosed with CLASSIC CLUSTERS... I am in my mid 30s, get them suddenly in the middle of the night almost everyday. And YES I have tried EVERYTHING. |
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From your description...I would ask your doctor for a trial of indomethacin. It sounds like you may have CPH as opposed to Cluster Headaches. They're very similiar...however CPH is of a little shorter duration.
Give it a try...it's a relatively safe med, and may be the answer to your prayers.
Good luck & keep us informed
Jim
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