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islandtimefl
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Does anyone have any experience or recommendations concerning Seasilver? It is a liquid vitamin supplement. A friend gave me a bottle (the first one is free  ) and I'm not sure if I should try it or not so I thought my best source of information is right here on line at the CH message board. Thanks people and I hope everyone is having as great a weekend as possible! One other thing. Any correlation between clusters and lots of sun exposure and/or heat? I'd like to go boating tomorrow but am kinda paranoid. I'd probably jump from my boat and drown myself if I get a cluster while out there in the water.
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Re: Seasilver
« Reply #1 on: May 10th, 2003, 9:21pm » |
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I'm not sure what Seasilver is but if it is just a multi-vitamin without any extreme amounts of any thing, it should be fine. I take a pretty strong multi every day and I feel much better when I do. Especially when I'm in a cycle and I'm not getting that much sleep. Mine is pretty high in B vitamins and those give you more energy.
As for the sun/heat question, If I'm in the part of my cycle when I'm having attacks during the day, the sun will bring one on sometimes. At least I think that's what it is. Really good shades and a hat seems to help.
How are you doing otherwise? Are you on a preventative and do you have something that reliably aborts them? If you have O2 or Immitrex or Zomig or whatever works fast, then take it with you and go have some fun. Don't let the beast change your life any more than you have to.
Where are you going boating? els
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islandtimefl
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Hi,
I take Verapamil as a preventive but the only abortive I'm allowed is O2 due to an unrelated neuro problem. Also because of the other neuro problem sunglasses don't work for me. I need all the light I can get.
As for the Seasilver it seems to be just a liquid multivitamin. What gives me warning about it is that it has "water extract (20% alcohol" and "cranberry concentrate (60 brix)". Not sure what either of those mean and I called the Seasilver company nutritionalist but they work normal times so it will be Monday at the earliest before I hear from them. I'll call my neuro Monday too and I have an appointment with a VA hospital neuro Thursday. Not sure if Seasilver is a "snake oil' but have heard some good things about it from users so I thought after lkooking into it that it might be something for me to try. I hope to be able to give everyone a complete review on the stuff and find that it is really a cluster cure for us all! ;D
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I heard an infomercial on the radio last week for Sea Silver - it was innacurate and misleading. I have also checked out their website, and it smells of snake oil to me.
1) They claimed that only liquid vitamins are really active - their line of reasoning was that many pills take an hour or so to dissolve, and that they would not be in the stomach to be digested after an hour. But most vitamins can be absorbed in the intestines, and don't need to be digested - vitamins are small, simple molecules, not proteins or starches.
2) They claim that Sea Silver contains every mineral known to be essential for health. This is also true of seafood, or a glass of ocean water. They were careful not to claim that Sea Silver contains every mineral in the ideal concentrations and proportions.
3) Lots of testimonials about helping people with cancer and other dread diseases. Maybe true, maybe not, who can say? Where is the proof?
Here is some of the literature from the seasilverhealth.com website:
>>By analyzing air bubbles trapped in fossils, scientists have recently >>proven that the earth's atmosphere used to have 40% oxygen. By >>comparison, today's air only contains 16-19% oxygen. This is one >>half of what your body was designed for! Even more startling, analysis >>of air in different parts of the world shows that this number is continuing >>to decline and many large cities now have oxygen levels as low as >>12%. Medical researchers say that if it falls below 7%, the human >>race will perish.
>>In 1905, virtually no one had cancer. The oxygen at that time has >>been estimated to have been at 30%. In the 1940's, the oxygen in the >>atmosphere measured 25%, and one out of twenty Americans had >>cancer.
Their facts are wrong and their logic is deeply flawed. The oxygen levels of the atmosphere have not dropped significantly since 1905. In London in the 1800s, there was so much coal soot in the air that lung disease (including cancer) was rampant.
What is in Sea Silver? According to the website, it contains:
# Aloe Vera
# Phyto-Silver
# Organic Sea Vegetation
# Pau D'Arco
# Cranberry Concentrate
# Vitamins, Minerals, Amino Acids & Enzymes
All potentially good stuff, depending on the amounts, quality, formulation. (although colloidal silver is over hyped and potentially dangerous). The website lists lots of vitamins and minerals, but does not indicate how much is in a dose.
Personally, I am sceptical, I would rather spend my money on other vitamin products, or on healthy food.
Added after reading Ueli's post: when trying to recall the infomercial, (first part of my post) I was being a bit charitable (or maybe fuzzy in my own mind). When going to the website, I became more sceptical. I guess "perfect proportion" can have multiple meanings - absolute amount (molarity) or proportional amount (Ca:Mg ratio, C:N ratio, etc). They might have a decent ratio of minerals, but I doubt that the total amount is very high. In any case, I agree with Ueli that there are lots of unsubstantiated claims and plain wrong facts.
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Ueli
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Here some excerpts from one of the worst snake oil advertisements I've ever seen:
Why Seasilver?
Because it helps against problems caused by:
3. ... beef, poultry, and pork being continuously fed antibiotics, synthetic hormones, steroids, drugs and toxic chemicals which end up in our bodies. These proven carcinogenic substances depress our immune system.
5. ... stress and pressure of everyday life; financial problems, family problems, crime, etc.
(at least the financial problems of the seller are solved  )
Another gem from the same web site, about oxygen:
Today, it is well known that the average oxygen content of air is only 19-21%. Since the early history of our earth, it appears there has been a 50% drop in the average oxygen content of the air we breath. In other words, it suggests to scientists, that the human body was originally designed to grow and operate at a 50% stronger concentration of oxygen than what's currently available. In some parts of the world, the oxygen content is continuing to decline due to pollution. Some oxygen levels have been recorded at 12-15%. Scientists claim that anything under 7% oxygen is too low to support human life.
The oxygen content of air is 20.947% (except in confined rooms with poor air exchange), in the whole atmosphere, not on average. In the early history of our earth the oxygen content in the atmosphere was zero, nil, nada. Only with the appearance of green plants oxygen in the atmosphere started to increase. When it had reached about 17% air breathing animals started to develop. At no time the oxygen concentration has been significantly higher than today; the 50% percent drop is plain and simply a downright lie invented by the scam artist to scare people to buy his products. I will pay the sum of $100'000'000 to anyone who can show me a trustworthy report about an area where the oxygen concentration is as low as 15% (or even the quoted 'average' of 19%).
It is a shame that crooks can steal money from the unwary by using scientifically sounding bogus arguments and promising that their useless product brings relieve from every imaginable bad condition, from financial problems to AIDS.
It would be on the agenda of the FDA to go after such outrageous claims of 'healing power', but they must set their priorities to the sellers of really harmful stuff.
So, since the FDA is still tolerating the marketing hypes of the Seasilver pedlars, it probably won't kill you, but about the only benefit you can expect is the satisfaction that you helped a scam artist to ease his 'financial problems'.
PFNADs
Ueli
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In the link given above you can read:
Seasilver's PROVEN 10 benefits for you and your health :
1. Contains Every Nutrient Known to Man in Nature's Perfect Balance
Vitamins
Macro Minerals
Trace Minerals
Amino Acids
Enzymes
(Macro Minerals' are presumably rocks, or at least pebbles  )
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Re: Seasilver
« Reply #5 on: May 11th, 2003, 7:16am » |
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Please be as careful with taking supplements as you are with prescribed meds. I do take some supplements (not for CH), but did not until I did a great deal of research and discussed them with my doctor.
I've had increases in the intensity of CH attacks when the temp was hot & humid. Wearing a hat will help. I'd take an ice pack or two along. Have fun boating!
Kate
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Re: Seasilver
« Reply #6 on: May 11th, 2003, 8:22am » |
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I could trigger a CH if it's real hot out side or in side the house or car.Happen to me a lot of times thats why i carry imitrex injections in my pocket when i leave the house.
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Hey Islandtime,
I never go into the sun if I can help it, but developed clusters nevertheless. The worst I had were twice when on holiday, when the weather was reasonable but not very sunny.
Last year I had my vacation in a heat wave. And I had forgoten my sunglasses, without which I can't drive, I always said.
But the car I rented had an airco. I just aimed it at my eyes and put it on full blast; and I didn't need the shades at all (and I didn't get any attacks as I had feared)
Keeping cool at the eyes did it for me. Maybe it will help you.
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islandtimefl
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Hi and thank you all! Being out in my boat today was like being "normal" again. I loved it! There is nothing more serene for me than being on the water. My dog was so happy she sat on the bow seat and just "flew" in the wind. I swear I think I get eight miles per hour faster when she is with me and her long ears are acting as wings! We even shared a pizza out there then she decided to take a swim. Best of all no headaches but at least I'm no longer lilly white!  I'm still unsure about the Seasilver though. I hope everyone had as great a day as I did!
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