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The big "O" - another temporary cure
« on: Sep 8th, 2002, 9:08pm » |
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I've suffered from CH since college, (I'm now 36). I discovered Imitrex nasal spray a few years ago,and it works like magic for me - Within 20 minutes of dosage, the pain switch is flipped off. However, like other Imitrex users, I have to make those dosages last for the most severe CH of the cycle, so I don't run out. My CH occur in my left temple, and at their most severe, a sickening pain runs down the the left side of my neck, and sometimes behind my left eye. 99% of the attacks wake me from sleep, usually around 5 a.m. or so. The attacks occur every morning for 1, 2 or 3 weeks. (this cycle is going on 3 weeks, but less severe each time)
I am a female.
My temporary cure is to take a warm shower, and have an orgasm with the help of a shower-pic type water massager. It is not at all sexy, so I am not trying to be gross here; however, this works for me maybe 85% of the time, with no other medication taken. I have experimented with just the warm shower only, and that does not stop the attack. The orgasm has a similar effect as the Imitrex for me - as the climax builds, the pain seems to lessen in steps. If I stop, though, the pain returns. The big "O" seems to blast the pain out of my head, like a switch being turned off. Sometimes, the CH will return several hours later, to a lesser degree, and can be managed with OTC pain meds, whereas theImitrex knocks out that day's CH for good (until the next day). My shower therapy is a good drug free, and money free temporary solution, to get through a cycle.
I have tried having sex with my husband before going to bed, and that has NOT staved off a morning attack. Guess it does not work as a preventative.
I have also had some limited success with a heated back massager - after about 2 weeks of attacks, I used the back massager (on my back and neck) and I was headache free thenext morning. Used it again that night though, and had another attack that morning, so results are inconclusive. ) However, there is definitely something going on with muscles in my neck that contribute to this cycle, so my next stop to break the cycle is the whack and crack chiropractor. This may have stopped last year's cycle, or it may have been a coincidence. I'll give it another go this year and see.
Hope my shower therapy helps someone out there. I wonder what a neurologist would say about it? I was too embarrassed to tell mine about it. How did I ever try such a "treatment"? I thought it would do something to my vascular system - as different tissues and organs would become filled with blood, and it also seemed that releasing endorphins would have to do something to ease the pain. It works!
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 8th, 2002, 9:16pm » |
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If it works for you, more power to ya! But during an attack, the last thing on my mind is gettin' off... I doubt I'd even be able to. Good luck!
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 8th, 2002, 9:33pm » |
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Thanks. Your shower therapy helped me. I don't know if it'll help my pain but it definitely helped me.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 8th, 2002, 9:41pm » |
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Hi JZ  . I'm glad you have found a treatment with seemingly no side effects. I prefer to take as few meds as necessary. You're lucky.
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Re: The big "O" - another temporary cure
« Reply #4 on: Sep 8th, 2002, 10:08pm » |
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technically wouldn't an orgasm send more blood to the head/brain. wouldn't that be adding to the problem? no way i could get off during an attack. glad it works for you
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 8th, 2002, 10:52pm » |
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How can one possibly even think of "getting off" during an attack. My guess is that you dont have clusterheadaches (or at least very mild ones) because there is no way you could have sex during an attack (either alone or with another). Just not possible.
But perhaps I'll give it a go next time.
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« Reply #6 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 7:28am » |
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IMHO - just from a woman's point. We don't have to "get it up" so it is easier for us to have the big "O" probably than it is for you guys.
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« Reply #7 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 10:45am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2002, 7:28am, ChristineL wrote:
IMHO - just from a woman's point. We don't have to "get it up" so it is easier for us to have the big "O" probably than it is for you guys.
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Bahahaha....... bingo, Chris! But we each achieve the big "O" for entirely different reasons! ;D
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« Reply #8 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 10:56am » |
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True Slam man - what I was referring to was that in previous posts, some of the men stated that due to their level of pain they can't even think about having sex let alone "getting it up". Since we woman don't have that to worry about we can satisfy ourselves any number of ways.
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« Reply #9 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 10:59am » |
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on Sep 9th, 2002, 10:56am, ChristineL wrote:
....we can satisfy ourselves any number of ways.
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That's why I love you guys soo much! ;D
but... Can I watch? ;D
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« Reply #10 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 11:06am » |
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Now........how did I KNOW that was what you were going to say - LOL!!!
Just let me get Jack out of the drawer and I'll see you in CA in February!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The big "O" - another temporary cure
« Reply #11 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 11:12am » |
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Thatababy!!!!!
heheh... hey! I'm just being ME! ;D
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« Reply #12 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 12:08pm » |
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Alright this is going to stir stuff up but.....
This brings up a fundamental difference between men and women. As some posts have said, women don't have to "get it up", etc. Women literally have to do nothing. In reality it seems to me that women wanting or believing in equality to men is wrong. We are VERY different and men HAVE TO DO THE WORK.
As in sex, it is the males responsibility to "do the work." During sex, women can read a book, or watch TV. Okay feminists....Bring it on!
So it seems to me, that true, perhaps for women during a CH, orgasm is possible, but for men.....much different story.
Has anyone tried Viagra during their cycle?
With all the drugs used for CH treatment, I havent read about Viagra. Perhaps it helps the CH and the "sexual" problem.
OK, let the screaming at me begin.
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« Reply #13 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 12:35pm » |
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BTW Chris... We weren't saying "getting it up"... We were sayin' "gettin' off" There's a difference. And man can get it up without gettin' off, and there may be some that can get off without gettin' it up. It doesn't change the fundmental problem that during an attack, it would seem to be nearly inmpossible to concentrate enough on gettin' off to actually do the deed.
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« Reply #14 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 12:45pm » |
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Ok, but only because you asked for it...
on Sep 9th, 2002, 12:08pm, HypnoticFreddy wrote:| Women literally have to do nothing. |
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I'm sorry to tell you this, but we need stimulation to achieve the "O" too. That, in fact, is SOMETHING.
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Yes, we are different, but to say that men have to do the work, is an out and out LIE. Men only do the work if they WANT to, not HAVE to. Geez!
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Now this is a stereotypical comment. I'm sorry, but this is not true, maybe in your world, but not mine.
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I don't know who it is you base this on, but I definately CANNOT read or watch TV during sex!
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Just because a woman disagrees with your views, such as myself, doesn't automatically make them a feminist.
As for JZ, whatever works hon!
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« Reply #15 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 12:52pm » |
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Awwww Mel-baby... you were way too nice. 
Slammy thinks Freddy was just looking to liven things up. I really doubt he truly thinks those things. However, if he does... he's out there on his own! ;D
Out of the 5 points there... Mel's 5-0..... 
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« Reply #16 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 12:58pm » |
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Y'all over-looked the obvious... He's basing his opinions on personal experience... In other words, his girl-friend/wife/whatever lays there, motionless, seemingly bored, reading a book or watching TV, waiting for him to finish his need so that she can go back to doing something she might enjoy, like the next door neighbor or something. That would explain his views on sex.
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« Reply #17 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 1:12pm » |
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I didn't overlook that, Dark-dude... I just didn't care to reflect on that point. It may or may not be true. I always like to give the benefit of doubt, but you never know. Slammy's been known to lob a few scuds from time to time, tongue -in-cheek, of course! ;D
Ya got to give JZ credit for her method though, don't ya? I mean.. whatever works, right?
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« Reply #18 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 1:16pm » |
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Like I said... If it works for her, more power to her. It's sorta like that one guy that posted to the board a few times, and mentioned that when attack was building up, his girlfriend would ride him 'til he got off, and it helped with the attacks. Some ppl it helps obviously... I wish I was one of them. LOL I know my wife wouldn't mind at all. 
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« Reply #19 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 1:51pm » |
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Ok I stirred stuff up. Some nice intelligent responses and yes, my experiences are rather skewed. I have no girlfriend/or wife at the moment.
Yes, I agree, women need to be stimulated in order for satisfaction and ease of penetration. But in my experience, that is much easier for women. For intercourse a woman does not NEED to be stimulated. A man on the other hand NEEDS to be stimulated. Case closed.
I am quite a basket-case, so please don't take my comments to much too heart.
With each CH I get, each day of being on 7 meds, yes seven!!! I am going nutty. Not to mention that I am a PhD chemist and I have been out of work for over 7 months. I am in a state of cahoots, and I have nothing better to do than to stir up people.
I apologize for my comments, but some really do hold true. Thank you for all your responses. Cheers.
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« Reply #20 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 2:45pm » |
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on Sep 9th, 2002, 1:51pm, HypnoticFreddy wrote:
I am quite a basket-case, so please don't take my comments to much too heart.
With each CH I get, each day of being on 7 meds, yes seven!!! I am going nutty. Not to mention that I am a PhD chemist and I have been out of work for over 7 months. I am in a state of cahoots, and I have nothing better to do than to stir up people.
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State of cahoots...... is that just outside West Virginia? ;D
Hey, that's as good a reason as any!
Seriously, hope you get on your feet soon..... there's nothing more dangerous than a bored chemist! ;D
ok..that wasn't very serious, was it...
hope things get better for ya, Freddy!
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Hey Slammy... I resemble that remark... I'm only a Sunday drive from West Virginia. IMHO... The state of cahoots is West Virginia.
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« Reply #22 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 4:13pm » |
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hey guys - isn't JZ's "cure" just another "visualization" technique, with the modification of giving the blood somewhere else to go? (shaking your hands, doing jumping jacks, whanking off, etc.)
just kind of thinking out loud....
JZ - do they make one of those waterpicks for men?
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« Reply #23 on: Sep 9th, 2002, 4:17pm » |
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Sorry Drk.........I should have gone back to read the previous posts instead of trying to do it from memory.
Now its true we don't have to worry about getting it up. Getting off is another story all together!
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« Reply #24 on: Sep 10th, 2002, 11:53am » |
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JZ, the big O works for me too. However, it isn't easy to achieve when you are in pain. The release of endorphins I think is the key. I have also noticed that the big O will temporarily relieve nasal congestion. Weird I know. But achieving orgasm has successfully aborted some of my CH's or at very least stopped the pain while the orgasm is going on. Why don't I do it all the time? Because it IS very hard to concentrate on "getting there" and some times I just can't stick it out.
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