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Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« on: May 19th, 2008, 5:23pm » |
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Hi! I have something that may SAFELY relieve the pain of cluster headaches... My cycle doesn't usually start until July, so unfortunately I cannot test my theory... We know water is helpful and oxygen works quite well... I have recently come across a bottled water that is oxygen bonded and I have seen it have other positive effects within two heart beats... Thats when the thought came to me that this may work with clusters... I will send someone this water at no charge if you are willing to give it a try... I won't hurt you, its just water, not flavored, just a bottled water... Let me know! Thanks!
P.S. No one has claimed this works its just a thought...
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #1 on: May 19th, 2008, 5:25pm » |
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #2 on: May 19th, 2008, 6:45pm » |
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Oxygenated water is a fad of the wellness business.
The minimal amount of oxygen in a bottle (less than in half a lung full of air) will hardly do any good to a human (unless his wallet needs slimming).
Donate it to the fishes in the aquarium, they take up the oxygen with their gills.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #3 on: May 19th, 2008, 7:05pm » |
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on May 19th, 2008, 6:45pm, AlienSpaceGuy wrote:
Donate it to the fishes in the aquarium, they take up the oxygen with their gills.
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Wonder what a molecule of "oxygen bonded" water looks like? <scratches head> There's already an oxygen atom in the thing, and no more room for another.
Now--you can dissolve gaseous oxygen in water, but that's easily done. Just shake the bottle.
Conversational aside: There's a place over around Hagerman, Idaho where water comes up in springs from a deep aquifer. When it first comes out, it's completely deoxygenated. Weird stuff. Until it runs down the hill a ways and bounces around, getting some atmosphere percolating through it, nothing that's oxygen-breathing can live in it--fish, crawdads, snails, aquatic insects--nothing.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #4 on: May 20th, 2008, 9:29am » |
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There’s only one way you can get more oxygen into a liquid & that is by turning it into “H2 O2 ” hydrogen peroxide & there is no way in the world that anyone will get me to drop that down my gullet.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #5 on: May 20th, 2008, 11:14am » |
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I, too, have been pondering the role of oxygen in CH. The doctor that I put a lot of stock in, John Sarno, claims that many mysterious aches and pains we experience --seemingly with no physiological correlation to actual damagings-- are simply the brain shutting down the oxygen supply to a body part. I AM, thus, planning to take one of those new fangled courses in "breathwork," a system of concious breathing, sometimes using hyperventilation. I see that Andrew Weil, the MD, and Gay Hendricks, the relationships guy, are both into using the oxygen intake mechanisms for mediatation, psychotherapy and physical health... My CH has usually come in spring, when my manual labor schedule intensifies, so I AM keeping my Eyes open....
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #6 on: May 20th, 2008, 2:02pm » |
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on May 20th, 2008, 11:14am, danielpeterson wrote: ....I AM, thus, planning to take one of those new fangled courses in "breathwork," a system of concious breathing, sometimes using hyperventilation... so I AM keeping my Eyes open....
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And rightly so, Daniel. If it does no harm, and may help, only good can come from it. Importantly, please stay in touch to tell us the results.
Perhaps it's a complete waste of time and money or maybe, just maybe, there's something in it to help many of our ClusterBrethren.
We'll never know 'til someone gives it a go and all research is good research while no-one gets hurt.
Keep us informed, mate, and thank you for caring.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #7 on: May 20th, 2008, 2:26pm » |
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There is a 15- Step Proprietary Purification Process that includes one-Micron Filtration, Carbon Filtration, Multi-Chamber Reverse Osmosis (finer than that of the human kidney), Ultra Violet Chambers and Ozonated for increased quality assurance. It is enhanced with electrolytes and essential minerals, including Potassium. Ionized for enhanced Alkalinity (pH). Microstructured with the proprietary technology, and Empowered with MBO, a proprietary process.
I appreciate anyone that is interested and thank the rest of you that are negative for wasting my time... I honestly do not care to here your thoughts on this unless this has been proven to do nothing. Since no one has tried this exact product on here your opinions are meaningless... Remember you may think you know it all, but obviously you don't, if you did you would have come up with a cure for CH.
Negative people never believe in the possibilities of change or positive growth... I work with a few inventors and we have come up with technologies that will revolutionize industries and most of you would think these technologies would not be possible. Although we have had correspondence with the FDA that resulted in a response saying this is the next 'vital sign'. So anything is possible.
I have SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES people able to jump higher, be more flexible, and have better balance after about 4oz of this water and two heartbeats... That is not a joke and the company cannot claim that, but it gave me the thought of possibilities and the belief in this product. My thoughts aren't that this will work with one little shot of water. I believe that if someone drinks this on a consistent basis during the cycle it may be enough to keep enough oxygen flowing to your brain and deter a CH.
So if you're interested let me know, if not keep it to yourself, you think you know more than you do.
Thanks
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #8 on: May 20th, 2008, 2:28pm » |
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Elmer Gantry you're not.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #9 on: May 20th, 2008, 3:04pm » |
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Hello Chadb397,
You wouldn't happen to work for this company that makes this water.... would you?
Just curious.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #10 on: May 20th, 2008, 3:29pm » |
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on May 20th, 2008, 2:26pm, chadb397 wrote:
I appreciate anyone that is interested and thank the rest of you that are negative for wasting my time... I honestly do not care to here your thoughts on this unless this has been proven to do nothing. Since no one has tried this exact product on here your opinions are meaningless... Remember you may think you know it all, but obviously you don't, if you did you would have come up with a cure for CH.
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Hi Chad. Do you have cluster headaches?
There is a lot of moral support here, and you might want to back up and try another approach.
Normally, I say welcome aboard, and I'm sorry you had to find us, but I am reserving judgement for the moment.
Charlotte
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #11 on: May 20th, 2008, 3:54pm » |
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Chad, it is much more likely that 'Microstructured with your proprietary technology, and Empowered with MBO, your proprietary process', would help with cluster headaches than the additional miniscule amount of oxygen. You would probably get more oxygen in your system if you bought a houseplant.
And let me ask you. You say you have seen positive effects within 2 heartbeats? 2 heartbeats for me would take approximately 1 to 2 seconds. What kind of positive effects did you see within 1 to 2 seconds? After you open the bottle, it would take approximately 30 minutes for the O3 to break down to O2.
That being said, typically those who want to make a sales pitch need to speak with the owner of the site first.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #12 on: May 20th, 2008, 5:01pm » |
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #13 on: May 20th, 2008, 6:51pm » |
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Can I get a sandwich with the water????
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #14 on: May 20th, 2008, 7:25pm » |
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The usual wishy-washy pseudo-scientific flubdub of a scam artist.
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What's wrong with distilling water? Not enough mystique to justify an exorbitant price?
Go and peddle your miraculous oxygenated dihydrogen monoxide at a site with dumber people than here.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #15 on: May 20th, 2008, 9:13pm » |
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on May 20th, 2008, 2:26pm, chadb397 wrote:
So if you're interested let me know, if not keep it to yourself, you think you know more than you do.
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Am I dumber than you are? Don't know and don't care. Am I negative? Nope, but I see that you are.
The lack of maturity I see in your msg really tells me all I need to know. I'll listen to anything, hey I'm a clusterhead, we are a desperate people (well, ok, I am anyway). Please, tell us what you find out.
And PLEASE, don't tell me I am not "allowed" to question or disagree (which actually I haven't, just haven't seen anything that would convince me).
Am I feeding a troll? Damn, that's a good question.
Oh, and BTW, you are not allowed to respond to this msg, you may "keep it to yourself". I cannot accept anything else.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #16 on: May 21st, 2008, 1:12am » |
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on May 20th, 2008, 2:26pm, chadb397 wrote:| I honestly do not care to here your thoughts on this unless this has been proven to do nothing. Since no one has tried this exact product on here your opinions are meaningless... |
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Waterboy, you can totally bite me.
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Ah! The foreigners put on such airs
Wearing the tangerine suits
And their harlequin eyes.
The pain they inspire
Draws in harmonica melodies
And the feathers of birds
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Debonair.
(Ellen)
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #17 on: May 21st, 2008, 3:40am » |
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No I do not work for the company... A friend showed it to me saturday and I was amazed by the effects, had a thought, talked to my scientist, pharm-D and PA-C and we all thought it could possibly work on a CH... I have someone that is wanting to try so I should know within a couple weeks and thats all I needed.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #18 on: May 21st, 2008, 6:24am » |
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on May 20th, 2008, 2:26pm, chadb397 wrote:
I have SEEN WITH MY OWN EYES people able to jump higher, be more flexible, and have better balance after about 4oz of this water and two heartbeats... That is not a joke and the company cannot claim that, but it gave me the thought of possibilities and the belief in this product. |
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Next time I have worries over my jumping ability I'll check it out.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #19 on: May 21st, 2008, 8:01am » |
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on May 21st, 2008, 3:40am, chadb397 wrote:No I do not work for the company... A friend showed it to me saturday and I was amazed by the effects, had a thought, talked to my scientist, pharm-D and PA-C and we all thought it could possibly work on a CH... I have someone that is wanting to try so I should know within a couple weeks and thats all I needed.
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How cool is that? You have your own scientist.
I wish I could have my own scientist.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #20 on: May 21st, 2008, 8:33am » |
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on May 21st, 2008, 8:01am, Brew wrote:
How cool is that? You have your own scientist.
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I thought everyone had their own scientist?
Mine follows me around every where I go. He's like one of those stray dogs that you feed once then won't leave you alone. 
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
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Hey Audre,
Maybe with the special powers from this water you would be able to run away from your scientist that keeps hangin' around. If you're trying to shake him. 
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
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on May 21st, 2008, 9:41am, Jean wrote:| Maybe with the special powers from this water you would be able to run away from your scientist that keeps hangin' around. |
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Why would anybody want to run away from their scientist? Nancy Reagan has her astrological advisor, B. Hussein Obama has his preacher, I want my own scientist.
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #23 on: May 21st, 2008, 10:31am » |
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on May 21st, 2008, 3:40am, chadb397 wrote:No I do not work for the company... A friend showed it to me saturday and I was amazed by the effects, had a thought, talked to my scientist, pharm-D and PA-C and we all thought it could possibly work on a CH... I have someone that is wanting to try so I should know within a couple weeks and thats all I needed.
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So, you aren't gonna answer the questions I asked, then? Why not? What are you afraid of, little buddy?
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Re: Anyone currently having a Cluster Cycle?
« Reply #24 on: May 21st, 2008, 10:39am » |
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You can borrow mine if you'd like. He's more of a vanity scientist though. When people start bragging "Oh I just bought this" or "I just bought that" or "Today's my birthday" I'm like "Yeah? Well, I have a scientist!" Then he pops out from behind me wearing his white lab coat, does a few tricks and everyone's oh'ing and ah'ing.
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