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Help with Melatonin
« on: Jan 15th, 2008, 1:19pm » |
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[i][/i][b][/b]I've been reading the posts on Melatonin and since I don't take any medication at all (except Excedrin Migraine) I am going to go ahead and order a large supply. However, I've read most of you say to start off with 9-12 mg every night. From what i'm seeing they come in 1mg, 2 mg and 5 mg bottles. If I get the 5 mg bottle would it be safe to take 2 on my first try? I don't want to OD on something I'm not familiar with.. Any help would help... Thanks a bunch.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #1 on: Jan 15th, 2008, 1:26pm » |
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on Jan 15th, 2008, 1:19pm, LucyBee210 wrote:| [i][/i][b][/b]I've been reading the posts on Melatonin and since I don't take any medication at all (except Excedrin Migraine) I am going to go ahead and order a large supply. However, I've read most of you say to start off with 9-12 mg every night. From what i'm seeing they come in 1mg, 2 mg and 5 mg bottles. If I get the 5 mg bottle would it be safe to take 2 on my first try? I don't want to OD on something I'm not familiar with.. Any help would help... Thanks a bunch. |
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Take nine ones.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #2 on: Jan 15th, 2008, 3:23pm » |
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I'm not sure what the toxicity level of melatonin in humans might be (some information shows an LD50 of 1 gram per 3 kilograms in laboratory animals) but it's going to be pretty high.
You won't even get close to OD'ing at the dosages we're talking about, even though it's above the "recommended" amount they put on the label.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #3 on: Jan 15th, 2008, 3:56pm » |
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Viet .. you say take 9 of the 1 mgs? Is there any reason why I can't take 2 of the 5 mg's safely ...? The only reason I ask is because I am not a pill taker and generally gag on any pill... Thanks for your help.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
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on Jan 15th, 2008, 3:56pm, LucyBee210 wrote:| Viet .. you say take 9 of the 1 mgs? Is there any reason why I can't take 2 of the 5 mg's safely ...? The only reason I ask is because I am not a pill taker and generally gag on any pill... Thanks for your help. |
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Guess ya answered your first post.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #5 on: Jan 17th, 2008, 8:32pm » |
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Neuro yesterday said that we need to increase to 15mg from 6mg, to increase every 3 days by 3 til we hit the 15. He stated that that is the standard the cleveland clinic recommends, my jaw dropped at the 15 as I had not read anything saying that high of a dosage
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #6 on: Jan 17th, 2008, 8:34pm » |
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my magic # was 9mg
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #7 on: Jan 17th, 2008, 10:26pm » |
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9mg worked for me. I wouldn't be afraid to keep going up till the dosage worked. I got about a six month supply at a Rite Aid, buy one get sale - total $18.99. They took about a week and a half to become effective. As a check I decided to skip the melatonin and energy drinks to see if they were more placebo than real help. Mistake. They work
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #8 on: Jan 17th, 2008, 11:04pm » |
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Today I bought a bottle - they are 3 mg. I guess it would be ok to take 3 of these tonight.. I am very skittish about taking medication but if you all say it works I'm game ... anything to get a decent night's sleep. As I read further now I see it will take awhile before they're effective .. Thanks for all the help.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #9 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 9:36pm » |
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I haven't needed to use melatonin this cycle (RC buster), but in the past, I started out with 6mg. As my cycle progressed, went to 9mg, then up to 12 at the peak of my cycle. Seemed to help out a lot with the night hits! I personally didn't notice any side effects at all, though some report next-day sleepiness.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #10 on: Jan 19th, 2008, 1:50pm » |
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For what it's worth, Gary's neuro says 18mg is max.
There is also a more-targeted pharmaceutical option called Rozerem: http://www.rozerem.com/consumer/voucher.aspx
It is 8mg, so obviously doc said not to take more than two.
However, to actually treat insomnia (as opposed to CH), clinical studies have indicated that very SMALL amounts work - 0.3mg.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #11 on: Jan 22nd, 2008, 12:45pm » |
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Being new here, I haven't read all the discussion areas yet, but I have one question. What does the melatonin do? Does it get rid of the headache or just let you sleep through it, or what. I'll try anything.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #12 on: Jan 22nd, 2008, 3:31pm » |
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Stinger, I have never known anything to let you sleep through it. It helps wipe out some nighttime hits. Others swear it also helps some daytime hits too.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
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on Jan 22nd, 2008, 12:45pm, Stinger wrote:| Being new here, I haven't read all the discussion areas yet, but I have one question. What does the melatonin do? Does it get rid of the headache or just let you sleep through it, or what. I'll try anything. |
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It actually will eliminate night-time hits.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #14 on: Jan 22nd, 2008, 4:40pm » |
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on Jan 22nd, 2008, 4:09pm, thomas wrote:
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exactly - preventative = sleep
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #15 on: Jan 25th, 2008, 11:14am » |
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I woke up last night at 1:30 am with a headache. It was just bad enough to wake me, but it went away after about 15 minutes. Maybe the melatonin kept the pain down?
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #16 on: Jan 25th, 2008, 11:16am » |
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on Jan 25th, 2008, 11:14am, Stinger wrote:| I woke up last night at 1:30 am with a headache. It was just bad enough to wake me, but it went away after about 15 minutes. Maybe the melatonin kept the pain down? |
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Take more and/or mix in some time-release melatonin.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #17 on: Feb 2nd, 2008, 11:13am » |
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started on melatonin about 10-days ago. at 6mg. was still waking up after only being alseep for only maybe a hour, right about the time the beast would drop in for his nite cap, but these wake up calls had no pain. but i was on preds still. so i pushed it to 9mg and woke up 1/2 hour after sleeping? but no pain, slamed a ho- ho and back to sleep. talked to the doc and the last 3 nights im taking only 3mg and have slept like a baby. all the way to 4am. only a few days of low dose pred taper left so i hope i found my number, because it will be game time soon for me. good luck in finding your right number. coach bill
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #18 on: Feb 3rd, 2008, 7:40pm » |
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Will the higher doses of Melatonin make you groggy the next day? I know the important aspect is to halt the attacks but I don't want to fall asleep at my desk either.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #19 on: Feb 3rd, 2008, 7:57pm » |
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on Feb 3rd, 2008, 7:40pm, Scrooge wrote:| Will the higher doses of Melatonin make you groggy the next day? I know the important aspect is to halt the attacks but I don't want to fall asleep at my desk either. |
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I think there's some individual variation there--some have reported that it does so, but I've never noticed any grogginess the next day. Purely speculation, but I suspect that there's a balance between an effective dose, and an excessive one. It may require a bit of experimentation on your part.
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #20 on: Feb 6th, 2008, 2:13pm » |
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My new Neuro suggested upping the melatonin to 15mg (rather than the 9 I was taking). It seems to be effective and I am not experiencing any drowsiness in the mornings and haven't had a night hit in about a month...not bad I'd say for a chronic 
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Re: Help with Melatonin
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on Feb 6th, 2008, 2:13pm, Miz_D wrote:| My new Neuro suggested upping the melatonin to 15mg (rather than the 9 I was taking). It seems to be effective and I am not experiencing any drowsiness in the mornings and haven't had a night hit in about a month...not bad I'd say for a chronic |
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Re: Help with Melatonin
« Reply #22 on: Feb 6th, 2008, 6:49pm » |
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I guess I knew it wouldn't let you sleep through a headache. I have never done that yet. My doctor told me last week that I could continue the 9 mg (up to 12 mg) with the verapamil and prednisone he prescribed for me. It has been helping, I think. I am on prednisone for one week. I hope they don't come back worse after that.
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