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Hi All,
first of all, support for those who dance with the "beast"
I myself for 11 years now, some of them epis, some of them chronical, bout 50/50.....
I ve tried, verapamil, deseril, prednisone, O2, imitrex, etc etc etc etc...and am just comming of Lithium......
Ever since the beginning of my CH years, i've always felt a sore, hard, painfull spot in my neck, pushing on to this spot, gave the same pain , or even triggered an attack.
Since 14 years I'm a physicalmassage therapist, and I've discovered 2 years ago MyofascialTriggerPoint therapy. A study based on the works of Dr Travell, & Dr. Simmons. I've discovered in their book, that the spot in my neck directly relates to my CH pain.
now 2 years further, and still treating this spot regulary, I've had almost no attacks .....the ones I did had, where mild, and dissappeared with a little O2.
Are there more of you, who tried this therapy, or learned it themself ( it is selftreatment)
and or are there people with similar neck, and or shoulder, pain spots like I have?
Maybe this can help .....if only even one ( becides me..)
For all, stay strong, it will pass!!!!!!!!!!!
and what doesn't kill you, will only make you stronger 
Regards, Philip
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Re: Triggerpointtherapy
« Reply #1 on: Aug 22nd, 2007, 7:36pm » |
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It is up to YOU to educate yourself and then help your doctor plan your treatment. If you just sit down in front of your doctor and say "make me better" you are setting yourself up for a great deal of pain.
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can't seem to understand the messages sent back????
legwax? and the other???
what has this to do with triggerpointtherapy??
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:39pm » |
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 22nd, 2007, 9:41pm » |
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Re: Triggerpointtherapy
« Reply #8 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 1:51pm » |
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Trigger points seem to play a role in migraine - maybe they do for clusters, maybe not. Worth a try since it is free - anyone can find the tender spots and deactivate them if they are willing to learn that massage technique.
Quote:Eur J Neurol. 2006 Mar;13(3):244-9.
Trigger point evaluation in migraine patients: an indication of peripheral sensitization linked to migraine predisposition?
Calandre EP, Hidalgo J, García-Leiva JM, Rico-Villademoros F.
Instituto de Neurociencias, Universidad de Granada, Granada, Spain. epita@ugr.es
Although migraine is a neurovascular disorder, both scalp tenderness and referred pain have been observed in migraine patients. The present study was carried out to investigate the presence of trigger points eliciting referred pain in 98 migraine patients and in 32 healthy subjects. Trigger points were found in 92 (93.9%) migraineurs and in nine (29%) controls (P < 0.0001). The number of individual migraine trigger points varied from zero to 14 (modal number: 4), and was found to be related to both the frequency of migraine attacks (P < 0.0001), and the duration of the disease (P = 0.017). About 74% of the total detected trigger points were found in temporal and/or suboccipital areas; other locations were mainly found in patients showing more than four trigger points. Trigger point palpation provoked a migraine attack in 30 (30.6%) patients. Pericraneal allodynia was found in 15 (15.3%) patients. These data indicate that nociceptive peripheral sensitization is a usual finding in migraine, and that central sensitization can develop in patients with frequent attacks and long-lasting disease. Trigger points' detection in migraine patients could be useful when applying therapies like acupuncture, needling or botulinum toxin injections directed to reduce peripheral sensitization.
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Interesting to see that in migraine, massaging the trigger points could actually bring on a migraine. But maybe in combination with other treatments, the short term increase could be blocked and lead to a long term reduction in hits.
No evidence yet, but I am betting that people with low magnesium levels are more likely to develop trigger points - the muscles knot up easier and develop tenderness/sterile inflammation. This can refer pain elsewhere, maybe activate the trigeminal nerve.
Got TMJ/jaw problems? You probably have trigger points, and massage might help. Got neck problems? Same thing. Seems that any inflammation around the head can make things worse for some of us - sinuses, colds or flu, dental stuff, etc.
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 23rd, 2007, 3:11pm » |
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As everyone here knows I've had dangerously low magnesium levels but no trigger points which leads me to believe I AM the king of wishful thinking!  Mind you, a total of 300 tons of bombs were dropped on Britain during the First World War causing some 5,000 casualties, a third of which were fatalities. Some form of early warning system was badly needed, especially to counter the night raids.
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