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« on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 12:21pm »
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hi everybody here! is my first time that i write but i've read a lot from here. i have a question.  
All of we know that the alcohol is very bad for the CH, but i'd like to know if it just makes you to have more attacks or if it makes that the cycle is gettin longer. normally when i drink more alcohol of normal size.. i have 2 days FP but then it is worst.... sorry for my english and PF for all of you. thanks!
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Re: alcohol?
« Reply #1 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 12:26pm »
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For me it would be a trigger, untill I started on Verapamil, which has allowed me to drink PF.
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 12:36pm »
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I've never noticed it to have any effect on the length of my cycle. When I'm on cycle, if I'm really strict with my lithium dosing, I can have small amounts of alcohol, beer and white wine, no red wine or hard liquor, and be relatively safe. If I have more then a beer or two, too much wine or any hard liquor I get slammed realtively quickly. Mostly when I'm on cycle I just do without, not worth the owie!!!
 
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 1:23pm »
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Alcohol is a trigger for me,one beer and I get hit Sad.
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 1:27pm »
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Welcome aboard Josep!!
 
Glad you find us and keep reading, knowledge is power.
 
Alcohol is also a trigger for me, during cycle I stay away from it. Out of cycle I still can't have red wine, it brings a hit in few minutes.
 
Pain free wishes for you!!
 
 
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Re: alcohol?
« Reply #5 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 1:38pm »
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Welcome aboard, Josep! Smiley
 
I cannot imagine even taking a sip of something with alcohol in it when I'm in cycle. I did that mistake once and I'll never be doing that one again! It is definetily a trigger for me as well.
 
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Re: alcohol?
« Reply #6 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 2:27pm »
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I am one of the crowd who gets a headache 15-60 minutes after one drink, even a half a drink.  I avoid drinking when I am having headaches.
 
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« Reply #7 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 4:25pm »
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I have no idea if alcohol extends my cycle or not. When in cycle, I don't drink any alcohol whatsoever. When I've been stupid enough to drink alcohol in cycle, I get a headache in less than 20 minutes.
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on Aug 3rd, 2007, 4:25pm, marlinsfan wrote:
I have no idea if alcohol extends my cycle or not. When in cycle, I don't drink any alcohol whatsoever. When I've been stupid enough to drink alcohol in cycle, I get a headache in less than 20 minutes.

 
Ditto to that.  Doesn't even take a whole drink for me--a couple of swallows will do it.  
 
Out of cycle, no problem.
 
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« Reply #9 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 7:56pm »
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on Aug 3rd, 2007, 6:51pm, George_J wrote:

 
Ditto to that.  Doesn't even take a whole drink for me--a couple of swallows will do it.  
 
Out of cycle, no problem.
 
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Same here.   Currently in cycle, haven't had a drink in 3 weeks.  I cut out the booze as soon as I start feeling anything even remotely close to a shadow.  And I love my drink
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« Reply #10 on: Aug 3rd, 2007, 8:04pm »
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By the way....
 
Here's the NON-PROFESSIONAL idea of what alcohol does.  Alcohol agglutenates the red blood cells -- they tend to stick together.  This causes the blood vessels to dialate to let the blood pass.  Our problem with CH is due to, in part, the swelling of blood vessels, therefore we get a CH.
 
Your milage may vary,
 
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« Reply #11 on: Aug 4th, 2007, 7:51am »
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Alcohol is a very sensitive trigger for me when in cycle.  One swallow of beer and I am sure to get a bad attack within 15 minutes.  I don't go near it when in cycle.
 
In fact, even Listerine or alcohol-based mouthwashes are a trigger for me.  
 
I don't think a beer is worth the suffering, so I just stay away from it during cycle, and wait for at least 7 days after the last vague shadow before trying one beer and seeing what happens.
 
Ordinarily, out of cycle, I drink 2 - 4 beers per day without any problems.  
 
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 4th, 2007, 9:16am »
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I'm with all who say 1 or 2 sips is all it takes have not had even 1 sip of alcohol since new years(and I got hit)to me it isn't worth it.
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 4th, 2007, 1:49pm »
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I have not noticed that alchohol makes a cycle longer.  It certainly is an immediate trigger for a lot of us here, but that is just a few hits.
 
Red Wine is an absolute killer for me.  Even just 1/4 of an ounce will be bad news.
White wine and all other alcohol is a definate no-no as well.
 
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« Reply #14 on: Aug 4th, 2007, 3:06pm »
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Allah has blessed me, not one damn trigger Grin
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on Aug 4th, 2007, 3:06pm, Jonny wrote:
Allah has blessed me, not one damn trigger Grin

 
Lucky DOG!
 
I can drink the hard stuff as long as I don’t mix it with soda pop of any kind, just juice.
 
No beer, cola, or pop of any kind. I used to drink 2 cases of Bud a week before the CH.
 
I miss my beer but Allah say NO grog for me! If I disobey him I get K9-10 cane in thy eye every time!
 
Rolo..  
 
PS; Da, what does out of cycle mean? Huh I don't think I will ever know the definition so don’t bother answering. Tongue
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PS; Da, what does out of cycle mean?  I don't think I will ever know the definition so don’t bother answering.    
 
 

Why so bleak there Rolo.....you never know what the demon will do.
Ask anyone, it can leave or come at anytime chronic or episodic.
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 6:25am »
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I can drink beer and no triggers. I seen to be one of the minorities here. I don't know about other drinks as I only drink beer.
 
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 10:20am »
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I really, really want to have a drink, but it's a trigger.
 
I have been on verap. for 5 days now. I have had one CH per day since starting. Am I coming out of this cycle or is the verap. working???  I did not have a CH in the last 24 hours!!! Before starting verapamil on Aug 1, they hit  2 to 4 times a day.  
Re: alcohol - My husband said, "you are going to get them anyway, may as well have a drink".  I kinda like his reasoning, but when I had my last beer, it hit fast.
 
I am tempted to have a blender drink today cuz it's a really hot day. I miss my red wine, miss the beer...
sigh...
 
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on Aug 5th, 2007, 10:20am, Putter wrote:
I really, really want to have a drink, but it's a trigger.
 
 
Re: alcohol - My husband said, "you are going to get them anyway, may as well have a drink".  I kinda like his reasoning, but when I had my last beer, it hit fast.
 
 

 
SURE! Why not gurantee you experiance the most intense pain known to man.
 
Makes sense to me.  Roll Eyes
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on Aug 4th, 2007, 10:36pm, thebbz wrote:

Why so bleak there Rolo.....you never know what the demon will do.
Ask anyone, it can leave or come at anytime chronic or episodic.
Chin up brother.
thebb

 
You aint shitin, JB.....just look at me, I went 31 years chronic to 14 months PFand now I get a HA about twice a month.....WTF is up with that?
 
I think ill have another beer.....LMAO! Grin
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« Reply #21 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 12:28pm »
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Really....drink alcohol.suffer intense pain, any questions. Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #22 on: Aug 5th, 2007, 2:52pm »
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During my High Hit seasons, any alcohol will trigger an attack.
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« Reply #23 on: Aug 6th, 2007, 12:53am »
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Alcohol is definitely an instant trigger.  It's usually how I know I'm in a cycle.  One minute I'm at the pub with my buddies with a good beer buzz, the next minute I suddenly have no buzz at all, and the next minute I'm on the floor with a Kip 8.  Then it's welcome to Clusterville for the next 6 weeks.
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on Aug 3rd, 2007, 7:56pm, fiftyamp wrote:

 
Same here.   Currently in cycle, haven't had a drink in 3 weeks.  I cut out the booze as soon as I start feeling anything even remotely close to a shadow.  And I love my drink
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I'm chronic & currently trailing off a rough patch, I would love to have a beer but while I'm still shadowing heavy I know that one drink will send me off to the o2 within ten minutes.
So far it's been 7 weeks & I got a tongue as dry as a desert.
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