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Ginger Root
« on: Feb 18th, 2007, 11:45pm » |
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I've been suffering CH for about 11 years now. Five years ago I read about and started using Ginger to abort my CH. Raw ginger root has become one of my best friends. I keeps some, and a pocket knife with me at all times. As soon as I start to feel one lurking, I cut about 1/4 inch or more of fresh, raw Ginger root. I start chewing it to a pulp so I my stomach will absorb the juice more quickly. This took some getting used to as that much raw ginger is really spicy. The small discomfort of chewing on raw ginger is nothing compared to 3-4 hours of CH.
This really has worked for me. The effectiveness has been around 80% successful which is no worse than when I was taking meds like MIDRIN and there are no side effects.
Has anyone else tried this?
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #1 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 9:54am » |
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I'm glad to hear you get results from ginger. Lots of folks have posted about using it with varying degrees of success. I think you're the first I've seen who just chews on it as is. There has also been quite a bit of research on ginger's capacity to decrease nerve pain. Here is one link with some general information from a recent OUCH newsletter:
http://www.ouch-us.org/newsletters/06-2006/06-2006-07.htm
Do you use anything else to abort your headaches? Oxygen (link on the left) is another very successful method.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #2 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 12:07pm » |
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Mmmm... ginger.
I love ginger in any form.
The cubed glazed ginger pieces are delicious.
If ginger is a treatment, then I welcome it.
That said, I am picky about abortives. If I am not saying 'ahhh' in 5 minutes, chances are I would not go with it.
/allergic to intense pain
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #3 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 1:52pm » |
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #4 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 3:02pm » |
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on Feb 19th, 2007, 1:52pm, vietvet2tours wrote:
And posts like this could be why. You know, people will show their true colors (for good or for bad) all on their own. Why provoke someone, who might really be trying to pass along what s/he thinks is valid information, into a defensive posture right off the bat? I really believe in some cases we create the monsters we fight.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #5 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 3:29pm » |
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Quite a few people use ginger to abort shadows.
I haven't heard of it being used for full blown attacks but that is not to say it is not possible.
Good luck and glad you found some relief.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #6 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 10:27pm » |
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Interesting. I have never heard of that for CH but I would try it. It is good for digestion, and I know I get a lot of weird digestive problems (IBS) very bad when I have CH, don't know why but always have so maybe helping digestion helps the headaches somewhat. Glad it works for you--it is yummy I will try it.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #7 on: Feb 19th, 2007, 10:52pm » |
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I think I'm more concerned that she is getting 3 to 4 hours of CH. Is this a real time frame for you Darth?
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #8 on: Feb 20th, 2007, 4:37am » |
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I know alot of people who swear by ginger tea (literally a spoon of ginger in hot water) as an EARLY abortive. I haven't tried it myself but it seems as successful for them as red bull is for me however -
Info you all should know
GINGER
Contraindications
Gallstones
Ginger supplements should be discontinued at least 2 weeks prior to surgery or dental extractions to prevent excessive bleeding
Interactions with medications
Use caution when combining with other anticoagulant herbs and medications including ginkgo, garlic, aspirin, ibuprofen and other NSAIDS
Do not combine ginger with prescription anticoagulants like warfarin (10)
Taken from http://www.eclecticphysician.com/herbs/ginger.shtml
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If I drink it soon enough, ginger tea works just as well as coffee for me in getting rid of shadows. Not only that, it doesn't leave me wide awake and jittery.
Glad it works for you!
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #10 on: Feb 21st, 2007, 9:54pm » |
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I haven't tried crystalized ginger or mixing powdered ginger with water.
Melissa, What kind of ginger tea do you use? Do you have it already brewed up and on hand?
A year ago I started using Red Bull as well and that seems to work. At this point if a Red Bull is available I'll take both at the first sign.
I just ordered some pepper spray. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #11 on: Feb 22nd, 2007, 1:45pm » |
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on Feb 21st, 2007, 9:54pm, darth_malted wrote:I haven't tried crystalized ginger or mixing powdered ginger with water.
Melissa, What kind of ginger tea do you use? Do you have it already brewed up and on hand?
A year ago I started using Red Bull as well and that seems to work. At this point if a Red Bull is available I'll take both at the first sign.
I just ordered some pepper spray. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Pepper spray works real good on tacos.Maytbe ya ought to do a little reading here.Try oxygen it might work for you.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #12 on: Feb 22nd, 2007, 1:46pm » |
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on Feb 19th, 2007, 3:02pm, Gator wrote:
And posts like this could be why. You know, people will show their true colors (for good or for bad) all on their own. Why provoke someone, who might really be trying to pass along what s/he thinks is valid information, into a defensive posture right off the bat? I really believe in some cases we create the monsters we fight.
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Hey did I get it right this time?
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #13 on: Feb 22nd, 2007, 6:36pm » |
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on Feb 22nd, 2007, 1:45pm, vietvet2tours wrote:
Pepper spray works real good on tacos.Maytbe ya ought to do a little reading here.Try oxygen it might work for you.
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on Feb 22nd, 2007, 1:46pm, vietvet2tours wrote:
Hey did I get it right this time?
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Considering the validation his first post received from numerous sources, it looks like he's not the only one who stand to read a bit.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #14 on: Feb 22nd, 2007, 6:41pm » |
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on Feb 22nd, 2007, 6:36pm, Gator wrote:
Considering the validation his first post received from numerous sources, it looks like he's not the only one who stand to read a bit.
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I have no idea what crawled up your ass gator but you should learn to spell if you are going to fuck with me.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #15 on: Feb 22nd, 2007, 7:35pm » |
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LOL That's funny. How about you point out the word spelled incorrectly in my last post?
As far as what's crawled up my ass - it's people who go out of their way to give newbies a hard time because they've posted something the trouble makers never heard of. This "if I never heard of it or it don't work for me, therefore anyone who mentions it is wrong" crap gets old.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #16 on: Feb 22nd, 2007, 8:48pm » |
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on Feb 21st, 2007, 9:54pm, darth_malted wrote:
I just ordered some pepper spray. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Hi ted. Are you the same ted who likes to come here every once in a long while and post stuff that'll make people fight? Good to see you back if you are. 
If you're not... pepper spray probably isn't going to help.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #17 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:45am » |
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on Feb 22nd, 2007, 6:36pm, Gator wrote:
Considering the validation his first post received from numerous sources, it looks like he's not the only one who stand to read a bit.
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That would be stands not stand.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #18 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 3:04pm » |
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on Feb 19th, 2007, 1:52pm, vietvet2tours wrote:
You're right. I don't know how you saw through my ruse but you did. I'm a modern day snake-oil salesman.
I work for the powerful Ginger industry. For the past six months, my company, a subsidiary of Halliburton, has had me trolling message boards, trying to coerce people into buying more ginger.
Did you know, besides helping with clusters, ginger can lower your debt, pick an oscar winner, channel the dead and even increase your high score on Galaga! 
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #19 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 3:22pm » |
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Seriously though, I thought this was supposed to be a POSITIVE support community. I've read this message board for over a year now and received a lot of good advice. Since I haven't read any posts here about ginger I decided to relay my experience. I've had really postive results and it would be selfish not to let others know of other possible options. I've read most of the threads here and the only conclusive thing I've noticed is that:
A. Nothing works 100%. If it did, we all would be using it.
B. Not everything works for everybody.
This being said we all need as many tricks in our bag as possible. When one thing stops working or we run out of our current strategy, it's good to know that other possiblities exist.
Yesterday I aborted 4 CH with ginger and red bull and 1 with 2 teaspoons of powdered ginger in a glass of water. I lost 1 battle this morning since I didn't wake up in time. I beat down antother CH this afternoon with raw ginger root. This last one kept trying for about 15 minutes but eventually expired.
Peace and PFD
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #20 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 3:27pm » |
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on Feb 22nd, 2007, 1:45pm, vietvet2tours wrote:
Pepper spray works real good on tacos.Maytbe ya ought to do a little reading here.Try oxygen it might work for you.
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BTW. MAYBE you should spell-check your posts before calling the grammer police.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #21 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 4:53pm » |
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Hey Darth welcome to the board. I used to let myself get fired up and get into blasting contests but Linda H. has made me sworn to stay out of the gutter fights! That being said:
I get a little worked up over how harshly some people respond to posts. I understand the need to keep out trolls, they have hurt and continue to hurt a lot of people. But it scares me to think of how many people like you, who I don't think is a troll, get disgusted with the harsh attacks and never come back. How cruel to deprive someone of the info on this board.
My point?? As my wife would claim, I rarely have one! Take the good info on the boards and ignore any personal attacks. There will always be people who are bored with life and always looking for a fight. Don't let them blind you to the rest of us on the board that hurt with you and appreciate your posts. the reponses to your post were 10-1 good to bad so, nuff said????
Wishing you some pain free times. I'll keep reading your posts with an open mind!
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #22 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:08pm » |
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Sorry folks last time in this thread, I promise.
on 02/22/07 at 17:36:15, Gator wrote:
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on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:45am, vietvet2tours wrote:
That would be stands not stand.
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Actually what I meant to say was "...who could stand to read a bit."
I figured you'd reread your post and realize how stupid you looked correcting my spelling when you use words like "Maytbe" (let's not even talk about spaces between sentences) and drop it. Guess not. What was that, something about pointing out a splinter in my eye with a tree in yours? Whatever. But hey, if it gives you something to do, my grammer's not always the best either. You want to chase me around the message board pointing out errors, knock your socks off!
Okay, I'm done with that.
-ted, thanks for your contribution. Looks like there are several people who have either heard of or used ginger for their ch in some form or fashion.
As for pepper spray, lots of people here have tried it and most found it didn't work as an abortive. There are studies which indicate it might be more useful (even if only moderately so) when used as a preventative.
Here is a 1993 report of using capsaicin, the active ingredient in peppers, in cluster headache.
http://www.ouch-us.org/medications/capsaicin.htm
Capsaicin is also the primary agent in an experimental drug called Civimide. Here is one study, from 2002, on the effectiveness of civimide as an preventative for episodics. Apparently, it doesn't work as well in Chronics.
http://www.ouch-us.org/medications/civamide.htm
Best thing you can do, especially since you have already ordered it, is give it a whirl. Keep a headache journal so you can accurately track success or failure and let us know how it goes.
Welcome to the meat grinder.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #23 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:40pm » |
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80% success rate. Ginger root juice must be some good stuff. Would someone else please jump on the Ginger root bandwagon for beta-testing ? I would, but not in cycle.
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Re: Ginger Root
« Reply #24 on: Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:47pm » |
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Well, I'm chronic....but would be willing to try ginger-need more info as all I've used is dried ginger. You get the ginger root-which I know looks pretty funky-and then what?
kathy (willing to be a guinea pig if it will get this thread back on track)
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