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any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« on: Oct 31st, 2006, 10:40pm » |
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interested to hear if any from down under,
has tried the mushroom wonder??
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #1 on: Nov 1st, 2006, 2:53am » |
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Certainly no-one I'm aware of, Turts.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #2 on: Nov 1st, 2006, 4:28am » |
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I know a Kiwi clusterbuster Turts; does he count?
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #3 on: Nov 1st, 2006, 4:58am » |
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on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:28am, LeeS wrote:| I know a Kiwi clusterbuster Turts; does he count? |
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Off the sports field, the Kiwis are very good friends of ours. Certainly he counts and thanks for mentioning it. You may even care to PM Turts with the details.
Onya.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #4 on: Nov 1st, 2006, 10:37am » |
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I suppose you beat them at cricket (again) today  
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #5 on: Nov 1st, 2006, 2:36pm » |
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There's a clusterbuster who's in the process of moving from the Mozzie Coast to Oz. She expects to be there by the end of December.
G'day,
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #6 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 5:35am » |
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Its difficult to obtain the seeds or shrooms in Australia.
I took a quick look at it and apparently would have to order online from overseas, not sure about it clearing customs though.
Have not looked into it seriously enough to tell you, sorry Turts.
Hope you are well and painfree.
Take care, comrade.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #7 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 5:59am » |
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I can personally recommend the shrooms on the Island of Bali ( short hop/cheap flight from Oz.)
Most beach bars along Kuta/Legion will sort you, but by far the best place is Ubud, (small town set in the mountains/by Monkey forest). At some Losmen (guest houses) shroom omelet’s and shroom pancakes are advertised on the menu!
Just ask
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #8 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 6:19am » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 5:59am, ben_uk wrote:
I can personally recommend the shrooms on the Island of Bali ( short hop/cheap flight from Oz.)
Most beach bars along Kuta/Legion will sort you, but by far the best place is Ubud, (small town set in the mountains/by Monkey forest). At some Losmen (guest houses) shroom omelet’s and shroom pancakes are advertised on the menu!
Just ask
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Are we talking here about serious investigation into a med that may help, or chatting happily about where best to get bombed out the cheapest?
I'm sure your personal recommendation was meant in good faith but I worry about ch.com being brought into bad repute in that we may be seen to be promoting the use of illicit substances for entirely the wrong purposes.
I respectfully ask all 'clusterbusters' to consider this.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #9 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 7:44am » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 5:35am, BB wrote:
Its difficult to obtain the seeds... in Australia.
I took a quick look at it and apparently would have to order online from overseas, not sure about it clearing customs though.
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Wrong again.
Many clusterheads have found that Rivea corymbosa seeds are an effective treatment for CH. Dr. Sewell at Harvard Medical School/ McLean Hospital is now conducting a study of cluster headache patients about their use of these LSA seeds.
They are legal to possess and sell in Australia.
Here's one source from a quick search, I'm sure there are others...
http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/Website/Shamanmainpageframeset.htm
click on Shamanic Seeds and Plants P-Z, then Rivea.
Read the clusterbusters.com LSA FAQ in its entirety before proceding.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #10 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:11am » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 7:44am, BikerBob wrote:
Wrong again.
Many clusterheads have found that Rivea corymbosa seeds are an effective treatment for CH......
They are legal to possess and sell in Australia.
Here's one source from a quick search, I'm sure there are others...
http://www.shaman-australis.com.au/Website/Shamanmainpageframeset.htm
click on Shamanic Seeds and Plants P-Z, then Rivea.
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He's right, ya know, but check out para 4, (the bit he failed to mention).
Rivea corymbosa (syn. Turbina corymbosa) Ololiuqui
Important legal information for all customers:
NO EXPORT !!
1) The importation of Rivea corymbosa seeds into Australia is prohibited under the Customs Act 1901, Regulations, Schedule 4 (Drugs). The seeds offered by Shaman Australis Botanicals are grown in Australia.
2) The export of Rivea corymbosa plant parts (including seeds) is specifically prohibited under Schedule 8 (export regulations) of the Customs Act.
3) Possession of LSA containing material such as Rivea corymbosa seeds may (or may not) be illegal under the Standard for the uniform scheduling of drugs and poisons (Australia), Schedule 9 (the same schedule as Heroin!!!!!), but treated seeds are excluded under Appendix A, and are thus legal to trade and possess. Our seeds are treated with either food grade sulphur dust or UV sterilisation procedure. These treatments have no effect on viability or alkaloid profile and are non-toxic (food grade).
4) Consumption of any LSA containing material is prohibited under state legislation in all Australian states.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #11 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:21am » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:11am, AussieBrian wrote:
He's right, ya know, but check out para 4, (the bit he failed to mention).
4) Consumption of any LSA containing material is prohibited under state legislation in all Australian states.
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They're legal to possess. So close the door and don't let the police watch you ingest them.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:21am, BikerBob wrote:
They're legal to possess. So close the door and don't let the police watch you ingest them.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #13 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:51am » |
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Snake oil salesman?
Haven't you been reading the posts in this forum about the effectiveness of Rivea corymbosa seeds?
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #14 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:32am » |
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To all newbies, see my post immediately above.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #15 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 1:00pm » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:11am, AussieBrian wrote:
Important legal information for all customers:
NO EXPORT !!
1) The importation of Rivea corymbosa seeds into Australia is prohibited under the Customs Act 1901, Regulations, Schedule 4 (Drugs). The seeds offered by Shaman Australis Botanicals are grown in Australia.
2) The export of Rivea corymbosa plant parts (including seeds) is specifically prohibited under Schedule 8 (export regulations) of the Customs Act.
3) Possession of LSA containing material such as Rivea corymbosa seeds may (or may not) be illegal under the Standard for the uniform scheduling of drugs and poisons (Australia), Schedule 9 (the same schedule as Heroin!!!!!), but treated seeds are excluded under Appendix A, and are thus legal to trade and possess. Our seeds are treated with either food grade sulphur dust or UV sterilisation procedure. These treatments have no effect on viability or alkaloid profile and are non-toxic (food grade).
4) Consumption of any LSA containing material is prohibited under state legislation in all Australian states.
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Thats pretty black and white legal info and it certainly doesn't say they are legal to possess in Oz however I would just like to point out they aren't a snake oil option.
RC Seeds are the only thing ever to give me pain free time and I've tried alot of preventatives.
There are pro's and con's you have to weigh up and I would strongly urge everyone to do just that from both a legal and a medicinal perspective.
As with all treatments you should seek advice. In the case of Rc seeds for instance you should go to clusterbusters. I would never advocate this option for anyone without having them discuss procedures and all necessary info with the experts at clusterbusters first.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #16 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 1:54pm » |
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 8:36am, AussieBrian wrote:
The snake oil salesman strikes again using the good name of ch.com to promote the illicit use of an illicit drug.
To all newbies visiting our site, I beg you to read everything you can here. There's heaps of terrific information available and people who'll assist you at every step.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 1:00pm, LeLimey wrote:
Thats pretty black and white legal info and it certainly doesn't say they are legal to possess in Oz however I would just like to point out they aren't a snake oil option.
RC Seeds are the only thing ever to give me pain free time and I've tried alot of preventatives.
There are pro's and con's you have to weigh up and I would strongly urge everyone to do just that from both a legal and a medicinal perspective.
As with all treatments you should seek advice. In the case of Rc seeds for instance you should go to clusterbusters. I would never advocate this option for anyone without having them discuss procedures and all necessary info with the experts at clusterbusters first.
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If they were illegal to possess in Oz I'm quite sure that the company in the link I posted (Shaman Australis Botanicals, Byron Bay NSW, Australia) wouldn't be in business selling them.
It's wonderful to hear that you and so many others have found RC seeds to be an effective preventive for CH.
"procedures and all necessary info with the experts at clusterbusters" can be read on clusterbusters.com
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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Sorry Bob, I was reading from Brians post. I've been a bit woolly today and I missed that bit (Which is also why I prefer public posts to IM's as when we muck it up someone else can pick up on it!)
I've dosed today incidentally so I'll let you know how I go
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
« Reply #19 on: Nov 2nd, 2006, 6:21pm » |
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Quote:Are we talking here about serious investigation into a med that may help, or chatting happily about where best to get bombed out the cheapest?
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It’s sad, you know, that shrooms and RC seeds are illegal.
It means that in most countries we have to break the law to use the tryptamine treatment. With shrooms, it means the source must necessarily be illegal (whether you grow, pick or buy them) and with both it means using these medicines is illegal. And they are medicines.
For those seeking relief, traveling to a country where the medicine is legal (or laws aren’t enforced) is a valid option. You can find shrooms legally in the Netherlands, in some of the Caribbean, as Ben says in Bali, and perhaps other nations.
Why shouldn’t we discuss this option? It is a way to use tryptamines without breaking the law. I see no problem with that, legally or morally.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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My concern isn't the efficacy of the product and I wish all the best to all those who are getting any sort of relief from it. My concern was, and is, that ch.com not be seen to be promoting an illegal substance or drugs for recreation.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 6:19am, AussieBrian wrote:
With respect to those who tragically lost their lives in the Bali bombing, their family and friends -
I suggest that replying to my “Bali post” with “get bombed” as crass indeed.
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on Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:43pm, AussieBrian wrote:My concern isn't the efficacy of the product
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Well It should be mate, because what we are doing could pave the way for new drugs to treat your children, & your grandchildren...
I see by your Avatar you don't have a problem advertising Alcohol...A known trigger for most Clusterheads...
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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Brian,
Some people just don't get it. It's just the way they are.
Have a cold one for me.
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Re: any aussies tried the clusterbusters method??
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Really,Ben, if you're going to quote me at least do it in context. And Carl, perhaps your cursor slipped so here's the complete sentence -
on Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:43pm, AussieBrian wrote:| My concern isn't the efficacy of the product and I wish all the best to all those who are getting any sort of relief from it. |
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