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« on: Mar 27th, 2006, 1:29pm »
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A friend talked me into smoking some pot to see if it helped with my pain, well after smoking it I was very stoned but at the same time did not feel any of my normal symptoms. First time I felt normal, well as normal as you can while stoned, in months.
Not sure if this is normal affect of smoking pot and CH but would be interested in knowing if anyone else has tried pot and what luck they have had.
To bad it’s illegal and hard to get but at least I live in CA where the penalties are not severe if you do get caught with it. My wife thinks I should get some and use it but I am afraid of getting caught by my kids and needing to explain why I am using something I have preached is so bad for them to even try.
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 27th, 2006, 1:46pm »
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Many people have tried it. Many people have ended up with a really bad headache.
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« Reply #2 on: Mar 27th, 2006, 1:51pm »
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I think I will try it again to see for myself if it does work for me but it is something I can only do when my kids are not around, since it would be hard to explain why dad is doing something he has preached against for so long.
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« Reply #3 on: Mar 27th, 2006, 1:54pm »
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   I'm sorry I didn't know of you before this week-end but Californians just had a get-together in Sacramento.  We would have loved if you could have been there.
 
One thing that was discussed was this subject and the concensus was exactly what Bob just told you.  BIG trigger.  
 
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« Reply #4 on: Mar 27th, 2006, 2:01pm »
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Yes to bad but long drives are not my friend right now.  
I used to live and work in Sacramento, have been back in the bay area for 3.5 years now but used to live in Antelope.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 27th, 2006, 7:01pm »
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I also tried it hoping for relief but it was a trigger for me also. We're all different and if it provides relief for you then that's great.
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« Reply #6 on: Mar 28th, 2006, 10:36am »
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It doesn't help or hurt me. Can't smoke during a CH of cource, but it's calming effect helps me after one ends.
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« Reply #7 on: Mar 31st, 2006, 10:31am »
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I have heard quite a few people say that it causes more harm than good.  Although from personal experience, I have noticed no relation at all as a trigger.  I personally think its not bad at all.  I dont know if it can help with this pain like it can help with other types of pain though.
 
Some people also say that smoking cigs is also a bad idea, but others, including myself, smoke cigs regularly and think it has no relation to the pain, and may help settle nerves just after an attack.
 
 
Good luck, let us know what happens.  Maybe you can tell your kids that smoking pot for a high is not good, but smoking it for medical reasons in a controlled environment is not bad........just like pain pills.
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« Reply #8 on: Mar 31st, 2006, 10:56am »
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Definite trigger for me.  Although I am personally against taking drugs for recreational purposes (this includes alcohol for me now as well.  Don't have anything against anyone who does just a personal thing), I did try it because I was desperate and willing to try anything.  The HA I got required one of those beloved trips to the ER and could not be aborted by any means available to me.
My guess is just that with cigarettes, even more in the marajuana, the tar is the issue that any of "us" should be concerned with b/c it may cause circulation issues.
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« Reply #9 on: Mar 31st, 2006, 12:41pm »
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Big trigger for me as well, as bad as alcohol!
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« Reply #10 on: Mar 31st, 2006, 1:56pm »
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 Uhhhhhhh what was the question again. I been smokin that shit for forty years and I like it, but when I am cycling I stop, stone cold stop. Huge trigger.                                    Potter
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 31st, 2006, 2:09pm »
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Pot doesn't act as a trigger at all for me when in cycle, but it doesn't help with the pain either. I just use it as a substitute for drinking which I definitely can't do when in cycle. I guess everyone is different.
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« Reply #12 on: Apr 28th, 2006, 11:16pm »
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I've had a similar experience.  Six years (and three cycles) ago, I had some great successes aborting individual attacks with pot.  My last cycle, however, I actually tried to preempt one of my evening attack by getting high, and was later hit hard, and found no relief in smoking more (this was a terrible night).  This current cycle, as an evening attack peaked, I turned to pot again, after having already used two imitrex injections earlier in the day, and found considerable relief on a walk outside.  But later in the night I got hit with a CH, which I perhaps blunted with more grass.  I was pretty wiped out the next day.  So there was a period when it seemed almost as effective for me as an Imitrex injection, but at this point I really don't feel like I can afford the mixed results of my last attempt.  The kid wakes up to early, bless his soul.  (As for your children, I don't see why they need to know; there are plenty of things we keep private from our children out of a sense of appropriateness.  If they are not mature enough to make the distinction between medicinal use and drug abuse, be discreet--that's my advice).
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« Reply #13 on: Apr 29th, 2006, 3:25pm »
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smoking cigs, guys please read my post in meds section. 04/ 29
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on Mar 27th, 2006, 1:46pm, BobG wrote:
Many people have tried it. Many people have ended up with a really bad headache.

 
Lets just say that I have HEARD about this thing called POT and yep it gives you a headache.  Great for Dorito sales though.
 
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 30th, 2006, 5:01am »
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In cycle it is a trigger for me.  Was not like that years ago but then like every other med, it changes face when you least expect it.
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« Reply #16 on: May 1st, 2006, 12:15pm »
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Trigger for me.
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« Reply #17 on: May 6th, 2006, 3:15am »
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not a trigger for me but doesnt help any when in high cycle (makes the ha worse)
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on Mar 27th, 2006, 1:46pm, BobG wrote:
Many people have tried it. Many people have ended up with a really bad headache.

 
 
Word.^  Never EVER again!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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so it seems like pretty mixed feelings.. no real consensus is apparent to me.  
FIRST of all, you are not all smoking the same thing.  Most of the shit you all were smoking was most likely commerically, poorly grown, full of nutrient crap herb that was also probably picked prematurely.  This stuff will give you headaches.
I only smoke weed that has been fully flushed of its nutrients and has been grown with care.  I have been getting clusters chronically for at least a year now, for the last few years I've always woken up and smoked one.  Very recently I found that if I smoke too early in the morning, it causes my clusters to be higher on the pain scale than they may have been if I had not smoked.  I can never know for sure because if I had not smoked I may have been in the same pain, but will never know...on the other hand I have not smoked all day and still been hit with some of the hardest clusters i've ever experienced...  I smoke everyday and am just about as committed as anybody is to this sacred plant.  I am not ready to believe that it has the ability to be a sole contributor to clusters, I think that it can worsen a cluster that was going to come already.. but why this happens for me i'm not yet sure.. at least for me I believe it has something to do with my anxiety and the stress that it causes. (If I smoke one in the morning I spend the rest of the day worrying that I made my cluster come on that afternoon...largely because people who shouldnt be commenting say that weed is a trigger.. thing im wrong.. show me a study.)
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on May 14th, 2006, 7:21pm, mrnice wrote:
so it seems like pretty mixed feelings.. no real consensus is apparent to me.  
FIRST of all, you are not all smoking the same thing.  Most of the shit you all were smoking was most likely commerically, poorly grown, full of nutrient crap herb that was also probably picked prematurely.  This stuff will give you headaches.
I only smoke weed that has been fully flushed of its nutrients and has been grown with care.  I have been getting clusters chronically for at least a year now, for the last few years I've always woken up and smoked one.  Very recently I found that if I smoke too early in the morning, it causes my clusters to be higher on the pain scale than they may have been if I had not smoked.  I can never know for sure because if I had not smoked I may have been in the same pain, but will never know...on the other hand I have not smoked all day and still been hit with some of the hardest clusters i've ever experienced...  I smoke everyday and am just about as committed as anybody is to this sacred plant.  I am not ready to believe that it has the ability to be a sole contributor to clusters, I think that it can worsen a cluster that was going to come already.. but why this happens for me i'm not yet sure.. at least for me I believe it has something to do with my anxiety and the stress that it causes. (If I smoke one in the morning I spend the rest of the day worrying that I made my cluster come on that afternoon...largely because people who shouldnt be commenting say that weed is a trigger.. think im wrong.. show me a study.)

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on May 14th, 2006, 7:21pm, mrnice wrote:
so it seems like pretty mixed feelings.. no real consensus is apparent to me.  
 
largely because people who shouldnt be commenting say that weed is a trigger.. thing im wrong.. show me a study.)

Huh? no consensus? Here's your mixed feelings just from this thread..........12- Against the use of pot for cluster pain relief, 2- No effect, 1- didn't know and a zero score for those in favor of this treatment (except for you, mrnice)
 
Study? OK Go back about 7 years in the archives and start reading the posts about pot. I think you will find that the clusterheads posting on this site, the real experts on our disease, overwhelmingly say do not use pot for cluster pain.
 
Do you have a study that proves pot is a treatment for cluster pain?
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largely because people who shouldnt be commenting say that weed is a trigger

 
If your not looking for comments then dont post the question.
 
Are you thick? Read Bob's post for your concensus.
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It can be a trigger for me. It's calming effects is the best depression med I've ever tried.  
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You can state "trigger" a thousand times and it wont matter. Beating a dead horse.
 
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