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It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 2:58pm » |
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Yep, thats the claim!
The site also says....."My brother had cluster headaches for many years, and nothing his doctor did seemed to help. Then he heard about sinus buster. He tried it and hasn't had a cluster headache since".
I heard the inventor of this on Howard Stern today, when asked how he found out this would work he said..." I started to feel a meegraine coming on during a self defense demonstration, just then my partner sprayed me with pepper spray and my cluster headache was gone in two seconds"
What a LOSER!!!!!
I think this punk was here awhile back pushing this stuff cause CH.COM is on the links page.
http://sinusbuster.com/index.html
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #1 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 3:11pm » |
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Wish that Civamide crap the doc had me try would've knocked my cluster out in 2 seconds instead of burning the top of my head off.
So his migraine turned into a ch and then they killed it? 
as Howard might say "oye ve"
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #2 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 3:59pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 3:11pm, JDH wrote:| So his migraine turned into a ch and then they killed it? |
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Ya, in other words the guy is talking out his ass, from meegraine to CH to PF all in 30 seconds....I threw a hammer at the radio but missed.......Its pukes like that that take deperate peoples money and not give a fuck.
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #3 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 4:05pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 3:59pm, Sinus Buster wrote:
The capsaicin instantly relieves this swelling and pain for up to 12 hours. Chronic sufferers such as myself may have to use the spray every (4-6) hours, but regardless of your condition -- it works on 99.9% of people. The Sinus Buster relieves many types of headaches including migraines, and it fights sinusitis and allergies like nothing else can.
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Damn I hope it comes in a big bottle that it releaves pain for up to 12 hours but chronic suffers have to use if every 4 hours.
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #4 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 4:36pm » |
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Snorting pepper spray to abort pain is like slamming your testicles in a car door to make sure it's shut properly. Even tho Doc Bigal was impressed with the Civamide results, it was a 2-3 week prevent kinda deal. Left me with a "BZZZZZZZTTTTTT - WRONG" kind of feeling in my guts. You do your thing, but fer crying out loud, DON'T touch mine.
4. Civamide clinical trials have closed out and the number crunching has begun. What they learned from the earlier trials with civamide is that it works most effectively in a prevention mode. It appears to work on a cumulative effect. The first week does not show much improvement, but by the time they get out to 20 days there is marked improvement. This may be something that can be used to abort a cycle, not just an attack.
None for me, thanks,
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #5 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 5:10pm » |
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[quote author=Mr.Happy link=board=general;num=1078328760;start=0#4 date=03/03/04 at 16:36:21]Snorting pepper spray to abort pain is like slamming your testicles in a car door to make sure it's shut properly.[/quote
LMAO.............Randy
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #6 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:28pm » |
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has anyone actually tried it though? i'm skeptical too but...?
anyone? 
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #7 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:33pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:28pm, hoeboe wrote:| has anyone actually tried it though? i'm skeptical too but...? |
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Dude,
People here have gone so far as to shove peppers up their nose and even rub blue cheese and vinager on them selfs.......Nothing!
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #8 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:34pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 3:11pm, JDH wrote:
So his migraine turned into a ch and then they killed it?
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Hehehe...I like how you put that  I was thinkin that too when I read the original post about what the guy said. Insane!!
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #9 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:35pm » |
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What is Rosemary extract and how is it obtained? Yikes!
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #10 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:37pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:35pm, stevegeebe wrote:| What is Rosemary extract and how is it obtained? Yikes! |
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Ask Hoboe.....I already think that dudes a troll.
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When someone shows up here and does not say "hi im a sufferer" but goes right into defense of snakeoil in their first post.....I say TROLL!!!!
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #11 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:45pm » |
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Quote:| People here have gone so far as to shove peppers up their nose |
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #12 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:48pm » |
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LMMFAO....Steve 
Notice that the troll is gone now that he has been called on it.....bye troll
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #13 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:55pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:48pm, jonny wrote:LMMFAO....Steve
Notice that the troll is gone now that he has been called on it.....bye troll
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Jonny you are one of the most skeptical people I have ever seen, but you keep the riff raff out.
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #14 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:58pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 3:59pm, jonny wrote:Its pukes like that that take deperate peoples money
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People who snake-oil others at their wits end with CH, hoping to snag a few who might think he has found an answer or it's worth a try, they care shitless if it works or not. This guy knows the CH crowd is perhaps small so tries to snag the bigger crowd with the migraines too. Next he'll have people attesting to it's effectiveness.
If he REALLY had clusters, he should be sent to a remote Pacific island with nothing but his miracle cure.
I WISH
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 7:55pm, Tiannia wrote:Jonny you are one of the most skeptical people I have ever seen, but you keep the riff raff out.
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Tia,
Most people would not see how obvious that was but ive been here for so long I can spot snakeoil really fast.....Nobody!!!....fucks with this family on my watch.
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #16 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:04pm » |
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Not suggesting Sinus Buster is any good but wasn't there credible research on Capsaicin as a possible abortive?
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #17 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:05pm » |
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #18 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:10pm » |
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Just found the reference I was half remembering.
Rome Headache Conference last year that Don went to. Dr N.T. Matthew from the Houston Headache clinic gave a talk on abortives, part of which said:
New treatments are Vanilloid Receptor Antagonists - Capsaicin (can give intense irritation of nasal cavity), Civamide Nasal Spray (a significantly less irritant than Capsaicin. Gives significant reduction in h/a over 21 days. Currently running a very small study on this – but more volunteers desperately needed!)
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #19 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:14pm » |
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It's true there is a significant amount of literature on using Capsaicin to abort CH. However, I think the problem with this whole issue is that it is really claiming that it is 100% effective and stops all CH for 12 hours.
Nothing works for 100% of people!
The way the claim is made...even if it is a legit product...makes the claim unreliable and unbelievable!
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« Reply #20 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:17pm » |
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Take poll of how many people that this has helped, Wendy
Sure, it helps some people but take your poll and ill bet you its under 2%
The problem is this dudes site say "100% effective for CH"
Ok?
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #21 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:23pm » |
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chill out people! i am not a troll! i was unaware of anyone shoving peppers up their nose to try to abort the devil.
i have suffered from this s**t for 10 years and and have given up hope from any modern medicine because NONE of it works for me for any extended period of time.
like many of you have said in the past (and yes i have been a casual viewer of this site for 3 years), you would give anything for something that worked!
i have just gotten to the point where i don't want to poison my body with more crap like Imitrex and have just sucumbed (sp?) to the fact that i will have these for the rest of my life and bare the pain nightly without meds.
i am sorry that i did not introduce myself first before making my first post but really is the response anyway to treat a newbie? it's not like i was defending it! i was asking a friggin question
maybe this isn't the support or help group i was looking for 
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:28pm » |
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CLASSIC TROLL!!!
You decide
He registers on this board two hours ago and hes defending snakeoil in his first post......Think!!
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Re: It's 100% effective on cluster headaches
« Reply #23 on: Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:52pm » |
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on Mar 3rd, 2004, 8:23pm, hoeboe wrote:have given up hope from any modern medicine because NONE of it works for me
you would give anything for something that worked!
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We all suffer because there is no actual medication made for clusters, but giving up hope is not an
advisable cup of tea.
Give anything for something that worked? This is the premise with which sales are hoped to be made with a
100% effective tag slapped across the label.
Imitrex has done too much for people here to be termed
poison and crap.
Feel free to try any remedy you wish, but check out the effectiveness and how many use it. That info can be found to the left, medication survey. But then, that survey reflects only the choices people prefer when unbearable pain MUST be stopped, from people who experience that pain.
If you have given up hope and then try this remedy; what if it doesn't work too. Then what? I hope it works for you, if not, this site will be here.
Putting your above three sentences together, I'd recommend: Read jonny's post above.
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Sorry Jonny
I wasn't clear, I wasn't trying to suggest that capsaicin was anything other than an experimental possible if people have failed with the treatments we know work (wouldn't do it myself, sounds far too painful) and the extract from the Rome Meeting of all the CH gurus makes it clear that the Doctor concerned thought that Civamide was a far better option (if an option at all!)
And anyone who claims ANYTHING is 100% effective as a treatment for CH is either mad, a fool, a troll, a charlatan or a snake-oil vendor.
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If you want support and help for CH, it is here in abundance, but perhaps you'd better start again. If you have been watching for 3 years, you know the score
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