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I have been diagnosed as a cluster headache sufferer for the last 10 years. None of the medications I have been prescribed have worked.
I have just recently discovered that intensive pushups and/or dips will relieve me of my headache within 5 minutes. The headache still will occur at the same frequency as before but the duration of each can essentially be reduced to 5 minutes.
Just wondering if anyone has seen literature or has had similar results from such excersize.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #1 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 5:46pm » |
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Works for me. Squats. Do 'em till my thighs burn and I'm huffing and puffing. Then sit down with an ice pack and the HA is gone in 7-10 minutes.
I'm old and lazy now so I prefer to drop a tab of cafergot, slap on the O2 mask and just sit back and relax.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #2 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 6:10pm » |
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on Feb 12th, 2003, 5:46pm, Bob P wrote:
Sorry Bob, but old and lazy is when you have all day to cruise down a sea coast highway on your Harley with the wind blowing your three foot beard over each shoulder.
You have a few years to be a young'in ;D
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 6:11pm » |
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And true to the malefic cluster canon, for just as many of us, excercise makes it worse.... Go figure!
Pacing I can deal with; excercise raises my blood pressure and I flip cause of the pain
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #4 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 6:18pm » |
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I'm with you Bob. I prefer to pop a pill and do the rocky rock. I couldnt even imagine doing any kind of excersize except if trying to rip my head off counts...
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #5 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 7:21pm » |
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I've posted this many times before, but I too can abort most of my CH's with exercise IF, and ONLY IF I do it BEFORE the pain ramps up. Once I'm hurting, I couldn't do it if my life depended on it.
I used to think that it was the increased respiratory rate. Now I suspect that it's more like Charlie's method, re-directing the blood flow. I can often kill a CH in 3-4 minutes if I make my thighs really burn - without even getting my heart rate up. I'm not in good shape so getting that "burn" is really easy!
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #6 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 7:42pm » |
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KOH,
I have to vote as a member of the Old Farts Club on this one. Headbanger calls for meds. Too many rotted bones and joints to do the atheletic endurance thing.......although there _ARE_ those among the clan who swear by such. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. Even heavy pacing stokes the mental mania. The last time my thighs burned, I'd dropped a smoke thru my crotch on the interstate during rush hour.
If heavy exercise works, then by ALL MEANS, tear it up, man. It's a lot healthier than popping pills......but alas.... exothermic endeavers are part of the history of my body, Part I. It's canned air, Verap, and anything that ends in Triptan for me.
Keep pumping and humping as long as you can.
It's not the years....it's the miles.....
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #7 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 7:48pm » |
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on Feb 12th, 2003, 7:21pm, Marc wrote: I too can abort most of my CH's with exercise IF, and ONLY IF I do it BEFORE the pain ramps up. Once I'm hurting, I couldn't do it if my life depended on it.
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Before I was diagnosed and discovered 02, this method worked frequently for me. Can't remember how I discovered it though.
There are also some other enjoyable ways to get vigorous excercise.....it works as an abortive too..... ;D
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #8 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 7:56pm » |
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on Feb 12th, 2003, 7:48pm, Roxy wrote:
There are also some other enjoyable ways to get vigorous excercise.....it works as an abortive too..... ;D
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When the day comes that I can think of sex as the beast is rolling up on me I will bow to you.
Aint happening here.
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PS: When my head ramps from 0-10 in less than 8 mins there is no bonner even with the Mule.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #9 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 8:01pm » |
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Vigourous exercise..hmmmm...now that rings a bell. What is that again?  I'll pace around until the pain becomes unbearable and than I can't get to my imitrex fast enough. Give me a shot or get out of my way! This last cycle, I would get hit right in the middle of my volleyball game. Bastard just doesn't know when to leave me alone! I can't see myself do deep knee bends with my cigarette in one hand, and my water bottle in the other! LOL.... hmmmm..maybe I'll get my hon to take a pic! LMAO
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 8:17pm » |
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Jonny,
You're missing Roxy's point! If my theory is right, then re-directing blood to the mule ought to use at least as much blood as my thighs...... Ya gotta act fast, because you are right, after the pain sets in......... no way.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #11 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 8:23pm » |
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ok... I don't got no mule  but sex is not an option...and I don't want to hear any of course she doesn't cause she's a woman comments! 
When I get hit it takes everything I have not to scream when my hon rubs my neck...forget any other body part! If'n you can do it..hats off to you, but for me...there's no way.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #12 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 8:24pm » |
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on Feb 12th, 2003, 8:17pm, Marc wrote:Jonny,
You're missing Roxy's point! If my theory is right, then re-directing blood to the mule ought to use at least as much blood as my thighs...... Ya gotta act fast, because you are right, after the pain sets in......... no way.
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Your missing my point, Bro.
When I feel the head ramping up the last thing im thinking is getting it up cause I know my head is about to explode.
If you can do it all the power to you and all that can......I cant!!
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #13 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 8:31pm » |
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Koh - I do the same as you. Never found a med that works in 20+ years. . Pushups at the first sign will often reduce the time of an attack and occasionaly abort them completely. I've been doing this for several years now. I think its the endorphins that are created that do the trick. . With pushups you get the muscle burn right at the base of the neck and poof its gone. Another benefit for me using pushups is that I recover afterwards much quicker and ready to go. . It's not the cure but it works better than any drug I have tried to date. Glad to hear it works for you too.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #14 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 8:42pm » |
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Yo Jonny!
I was just making a Mule joke! This has come up before and I agree - no possible way.
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on Feb 12th, 2003, 8:17pm, Marc wrote:Jonny,
You're missing Roxy's point! If my theory is right, then re-directing blood to the mule ought to use at least as much blood as my thighs...... Ya gotta act fast, because you are right, after the pain sets in......... no way.
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I wanna revise my answer, Dude.
Are you telling me that when you feel the beast ramping on your head you can get it up and have sex before it reaches a 10? (Re-direct the blood)
That is fucking completly nuts in my world!!!
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REVISED.........I hear that Dude......LOL
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #16 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 9:29pm » |
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LMAO! reading this stuff and trying to imagine myself dealing with the beast and doing ANYTHING else, let alone trying to get off. And besides, my wife thinks the o2 mask is a turn off.
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« Reply #17 on: Feb 12th, 2003, 9:33pm » |
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Guys....it was a joke! 
At a 5 or above...there is nothing for me but 02 and imitrex. When in pain, sex is not an option....unless, maybe, you're one who likes the two together. I want no one even near me....I would prefer everyone to go miles away. That may be how I learned exercise could sometimes abort....running my butt off, trying to outrun the pain.
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same ole, same ole...I found myself, zomig under tongue, o2 mask on and runnin in place on cold concrete (just added the cold floor part in deference to Charlie's get the heat somewhere else posts)...the runnin seems to be the only sustainable exercize this old body can withstand. Painfree before the dirty bastard even made a good showin.
Maybe in the interest of science we should dedicate a room at the cornvention to the study of Roxy's method. Give the ole O2 bottle a spin and let the treatment begin.
This hole redirect bloodflow thing is interesting. The cold floor theory ...sort of baiting the bloodflow to warm the feet...with practice I could be a baiting master....
...does it also follow that I would entice the engorging blood flow to aid erection by dropping my penis in a bucket of icewater? I think not.
During a Cluster is probably the only time I don't think of sex even though I repeat "fuck, fuck, fuck" over and over....cum to think of it ...during sex I never think of God either although I moan "oh God" and "Jeeesus" a lot. Does that makes me guilty of taking the name of sex in vein?
Yes...exercize does help abort my CH.
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i've found that if ive got only moderate pain (or pain thats left after taking a pain killer), and still able to function ok, weight lifting can stop the pain.
Bench press, squats, or anything that gives you a muscle pump and causes veins to bulge is going to reduce the blood pressure inside your head (to the point where you're feeling light headed). also this will cause an endorphin release.
however, cardio exercise doesn't really help me at all.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #20 on: Feb 13th, 2003, 3:32am » |
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So...Koh.....intensive push-ups and/or dips will relieve your HA's......good for you. Then keep doing them.
Not everything works for everyone. Stay away from the Narcotics and pain-killers. They don't work for CH and will cause rebounds from hell, make you become addicted. This is your brain. This is your brain on Codeine/Darvocet/demerol/ etc.
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on Feb 13th, 2003, 12:57am, rumplestiltskin wrote:| I repeat "fuck, fuck, fuck" over and over.... |
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I think there are times, during a ch, that we all speak the same language.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
« Reply #22 on: Feb 13th, 2003, 12:12pm » |
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I'm with Bob on this one, although I must say you're not an old fart until they put that plastic wreath on your grave...
The sex thing works for me, if and only if, it's a KIP 4 or less. Once it ramps up, forget it and anything else 'cause we're dancin'! Lucky for me, I'm only eposiodic so these thing don't hit too often [excluding the past 2 days, of course]. GD MF beast. It's THAT time of year for me.
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Re: vigorous excersize the only cure
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There is a very pretty man on TV advertising a piece of exercise equipment called the "Gazelle" that looks easy...
Any elevation of blood pressure drives me nuts, but I'm keeping an eye open for ideas. I have heard endorphin release helps. Gravity is also becoming an issue as the years pass and the beast keeps kicking his feet up on my couch...sigh.
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LMAO! Den!!!
The sex thing works for me if the pain has not gone higher than about a 5. If over that...can't do it. Sometimes it is just too much to even try it. And I think in both cases (the exercise and the sex) it is endorphins that do the trick. I have found endorphins are fast acting pain relievers (and also will unstuff a stuffy nose LOL) but that the relief is VERY short lived. But I must say that the relief albeit brief is complete! No inkling of pain exists in those short minutes. Now all we have to do is come up with a synthetic endorphin that is long lasting!
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