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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« on: Feb 1st, 2003, 8:07pm » |
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You are the "king" for reminding everyone!
Mine been at half staff sincw the order came down.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #1 on: Feb 1st, 2003, 8:15pm » |
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I have been watching the news all day.
Many tears were shead today 
Flags all through town are half staff here!
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #2 on: Feb 1st, 2003, 9:54pm » |
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I agree this is a sad event that these 7 people died. But why is it being considered any more tragic than the seemingly monthly or bi-monthly plane crashes where 23 people die? 18 people die? etc. And we never give those passengers a second thought. I actually am really curious about this.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #3 on: Feb 1st, 2003, 10:35pm » |
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I give them my thoughts all the time....as do many. It is a follow u folow me...............A circle.
Thanks again KOP.........
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #4 on: Feb 1st, 2003, 10:55pm » |
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Got a big ass flag nailed to the front of my house, put it there 9/11, most have taken theres down......mine remains and will as long as I own this joint!!!
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #5 on: Feb 1st, 2003, 11:32pm » |
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Yeah we left our big flag up on our front porch too since 911.....so many people gather'd ta watch this landin taday that ended in tradgidy ....they seen it 'go down' .....was supposed ta be a happy day.....gawd that had ta be an aweful expirience for em all esp the families.....can't get that outa my head. I feel so sad 'n helpless.....God Bless America and peace and PF to ya all.......Pam
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #6 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 7:19am » |
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Ted --
A good question. It think it's because the shuttle program is the frontier, the bleeding edge of human endeavor. These are folks engaged in a very risky business, the main purpose being the pursuit of knowledge and the advacement of all humanity.
All our dreams ride with the shuttle astronauts, no matter the nationality, politics, ideology. They put their lives on the line for all of us...
That's why, I think, I felt that chill again. It's been riding up and down my spine since yesterday morning...the same way it did when the Challenger went down, the same way it did on 9-11...
And that's why the shuttles must continue to fly... It's unlikely they'd need or want an over-weight, flabby middle-aged guy with no useful skillks, but I'd ride the next flight in a second.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #7 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 9:45am » |
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Thanx KOP, .........Ted, i agree with Tommy,also i think the main difference is these people are mostly military devoting their lives to this country in wartime & peace. .........2late
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #8 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 11:12am » |
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Ted heres the answer found in the flag code.. One must be a government official and as the majority on Columbia were government personell they were considered officials deemed by the president to be so. .............................................. ............................"By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff. The flag shall be flown at half-staff thirty days from the death of the President or a former President; ten days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress". As used in this subsection -
(1) the term 'half-staff' means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #9 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 11:16am » |
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The flag I nailed to the front of my house is not there for any one American........Its there for every American, dead or alive, military or civilian!!!
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #10 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 11:31am » |
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jonny and cootie; No disrespect intended here But the flag should not be nailed but allowed to hang free................. also again from the flag code ....................... (a) Display on buildings and stationary flagstaffs in open; night display
It is the universal custom to display the flag only from sunrise to sunset on buildings and on stationary flagstaffs in the open. However, when a patriotic effect is desired, the flag may be displayed twenty-four hours a day if properly illuminated during the hours of darkness. May they all rest in peace. Knowing they have touched the finger of their Gods.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #11 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 11:46am » |
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No disrespect to you Jarvis but im rasing my middle finger of American freedom to the flag code.
Does the code say that the flag cant be a bumper sticker or a shirt ?
The best pics I have ever seen was the one with the towel head lighting the American flag on fire and he himself caught on fire.....FRY YOU BASTARD!!!!!
Shall I scrape the egale with stars and stripes in its wings off my chest cause the code says its wrong?
Fuck codes!!!!!!
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #12 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:17pm » |
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I agree Jonny....I painted a flag on the roof of my van. Up to code? No. do I give a fuck? No. Am I being disrespectful? Not my intention....
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #13 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:30pm » |
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on Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:17pm, kissmyglass wrote:| I agree Jonny....I painted a flag on the roof of my van. Up to code? No. do I give a fuck? No. Am I being disrespectful? Not my intention.... |
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I'd like to paint it on some Iraq bastards forehead!!!!
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #14 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:34pm » |
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Tattoo it on their forehead ya mean....
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #15 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:38pm » |
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Nice thought but why waste the ink and electricity when in the end im just going to cut the fucking thing off like they did Daniel.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #16 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:49pm » |
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Yeah right...they'd just wrap a friggin towel around it anyway....
Tattoo it across their dface before you cut it off...just for the sport of it...I'll pay for the ink electricity & some extra long needles....
What are we doing about Daniel anyway? I really hope not nothing.... 
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #17 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:53pm » |
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Jonny . yep the code does say it cant be worn as clothing. nothing about the tatoos though.. Not that I even own a flag mind you. I too believe in american freedom and The flag represents that freedom. Maybe it should overrule. But when the flag is not properly "respected" some would consider this an act of "treason".............. I AM NOT ONE, My father was. Hell I'm just an old hippie who had to hear it all.... The flag is kinda like a woman sometimes we worship them and at times theres just too many damn rules. But it is our flag and so it has great representation and deserves the respect it can be given. .......... Kiss glass, yours would not be considered a flag as its painted on and merely becomes art at that point.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #18 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 12:55pm » |
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KOP my apologies for straying from the original and patriotic intent of your subject. But life goes on.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
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apologies?
I think KOP will enjoy the interaction going on, he stirred the pot and came up with us.......LOL
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #20 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 1:38pm » |
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And "we" are the u.s. of america. We the people. Just dont tread on me. So the saying goes.
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #21 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 1:43pm » |
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As DJ would say
FUCKENEH!!!
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« Reply #22 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 1:46pm » |
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Vilolent here
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #23 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 1:48pm » |
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Re: Please Fly Your Flag At Half Staff
« Reply #24 on: Feb 2nd, 2003, 11:49pm » |
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I still don't get it. There were about 115 flights. 2 ended in tragedy. That puts it under 2 percent of a dangerous mission. We sit here and say they risked there lives knowingly. But they walked upon the shuttle as concerned as we are getting on a plane... knowing it wasn't much of a risk. So why do we mourn them more than others? Because they're in the military and risking their lives, as was suggested? Well, we've lost people in the war on terrorism. And I've yet to see anyone ask us to fly flags at half-mast. So, that answer doesn't work either. I am still at a loss t why their lives are considered better than anyone elses. I have asked others and only one other person was willing to give me an honest answer. We mourn them more than others because we think their lives are more important than a waitress'. Or plumber. Or a roofer. Or a...well, in my eyes... a corporate executive.
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