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Insomniacs, any of you?
« on: Jan 6th, 2003, 11:52am »
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For the episodics out there:  When out of cycle, do you suffer from insomnia.
 
Since my last bout that ended about 3months ago, I usually getting a couple hours of sleep, am up for about 3hours, then back to sleep for a couple hours.
 
Not complaining, but was wondering if anyone else has noticed the same thing?
 
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« Reply #1 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 12:48pm »
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Now that I think about it once Brad's cycle ended he started on all sorts of big projects around here and started stayin up alot later....wasn't as tired as normal....of course the attacks wear him out but he was more tired the entire term day by day beginin ta end of the last cycle even jus before they started he seem'd more tired then usual. I'm the insomniac of the family tho....always have been......if it wasn't fer Ambien I'd be a mess. (or more of one I mean......ha-ha)  Pam
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Re: Insomniacs, any of you?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 1:00pm »
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Yep.  In bed at 9:30.  Up at 1am.  Back in bed at 4am.  Up at 5:30.
 
It's because our hypothalami are screwed up, causing also our flatline melatonin levels.
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Re: Insomniacs, any of you?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 1:04pm »
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I hear ya. Episodic here and I do find that when I'm out of cycle I keepfinding more reasons to stay awake. I do most of my house work at night and I think the only reason why I do actually get some sleep is bcz of the anti-depressents I take before I do goto bed. Wierd!
 
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 1:15pm »
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I have to say that I almost never have a problem sleeping at night when not in cycle. Guess I'm a lucky one...
 
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 2:08pm »
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Yes, always have slept very little and needed very little as well. I am not an insomniac. My hypthalamus is out of whack, as BobP says.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 2:19pm »
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No way.  I love my sleep.  I especially love my nappys without getting hit, out of cycle Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 2:38pm »
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Nope .....wes has no trouble at all when out of cycle...day, night, whenever Im around actually.... Roll Eyes
 
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 2:40pm »
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I can sleep anytime and anywhere... out of cycle, of course.. Smiley
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #9 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 3:20pm »
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Dave is a real insomniac... In and out of cycle he has problems sleeping...worse during cycle though... This is a common occurance for all people between the age of 35-50ish.... ask around all people our age have problems sleeping has to do with our natural levels of Melatonin... why do you think that they make all that sleep stuff.................its for everyone. me
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 4:49pm »
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on Jan 6th, 2003, 2:40pm, Slammy wrote:
I can sleep anytime and anywhere... out of cycle, of course.. Smiley
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 4:54pm »
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B_C - I usually do for a while, but after a few months out of cycle, I manage to go thru the night.
 
echo - I don't think its Slammy thats boring, I think we're boring him.... ;D
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 5:09pm »
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I average 3-4 hours sleep every 24 hours or so. Working a split shift adds to the problem. I can be awake for 20 hours and still lie in bed for hours without nodding off, or never really going to sleep. 10 Ambien a month help, but not much. However, I have been PF for over a month now and I am grateful for the break.
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Re: Insomniacs, any of you?
« Reply #13 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 5:10pm »
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Out of cycle I can sleep with no problems. Of course I am a night owl by nature, so I don't get a lot of sleep as I have to be out of bed by 5:30 am.
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« Reply #14 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 6:25pm »
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Well, I guess it depends on how you define 'insomniac'.  If you mean unable to sleep thru the night without waking up a few times, then yes (which is probably why I remember so many of my dreams).  However, I'm also probably a hypersomniac.  According to my brain wave measurements, my first REM onset comes abnormally early and often (which is probably why I have so many strange dreams).  No problem falling asleep for me.  Like Michelle, I like afternoon siesta, provided that the CH Beast is not scaring me.  My sleep is wacked.
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« Reply #15 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 6:26pm »
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until recently, Yeah, big time. But with the lovely mixture of meds I take now I'm lucky to stay awake at all. Odd thing though, I still have a "pseudo- sleep" state almost every night. I sleep, I even dream but my body doesn't rest. I wake up sore as hell as if I ran a series of marathons. Suppose I have chronic fatigue syndrome?
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« Reply #16 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 6:46pm »
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Cerebus, it's not so much the quantity of sleep, it's the quality.  I can get a good quantity of sleep, but if the quality is poor I feel like shit.  Maybe your meds are interfering with the normal sleep brain waves necessary for restoration.  BTW... if I'm not mistaken, REM sleep is not necessarily indicative of good sleep... it's an active sleep stage (but still very necessary).  I usually feel worse waking up in the morning after a dream-filled night.
 
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« Reply #17 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 7:47pm »
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Not an insomniac but I am a creature of the night. I will say that it was enhanced by my episodics as I was often afraid to go to sleep. Now though, it has to be mostly some kind of circadian thing.  Naps? once a year.
 
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 6th, 2003, 8:17pm »
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Cerebus.....I found out alot of them anti depressants wacked out my already wacked out wacker more......did that make any sense.....(I sound wacked you say...hey I heard that)....anywho.....alotta that stuff made me feel tired and whipped out (I didn't say wacked).....I thrive on my energy even tho not bein able to fall asleep ain't cool.....but without that energy level I am more depressed in other ways cuz I  don't have that drive I need ta keep rollin. Sorta dam'd if ya do and dam'd if ya don't situation. But lotta that stuff made other sheeit worse. Pam  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #19 on: Jan 7th, 2003, 12:37am »
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thx so much for answering.  i thought it was just me    (or what Bob P said)
 
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« Reply #20 on: Jan 7th, 2003, 8:27am »
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Yes!
 
I've had sleep troubles since I was about 25 -- I've had CH since I was 32.
Just finished my last cycle in late October.  But sleep is still a battle.  Some nights OK -- other nights it's just plain lousy -- even with medication.
Since I learned some stuff at this site about how CH can affect seratonin levels, etc., I at least have been able to make some sense of this insomnia.
 
Regards to all and prayers for PFDAN to all...
 
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« Reply #21 on: Jan 7th, 2003, 9:48am »
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Grant,
 
I'm an insomniac, as well as various other adjectives LOL
I also have sleep apnea, and when they did their little ole sleep study on me, called a code blue cause I quit breathing and they couldn't wake me up LOL.  I woke up and wondered what the hell all the commotion was!
 
The results were that I don't spend enough time in REM sleep.  Prolly why the beast doesn't always get me at night.  I'm in and out of REM sleep frequently, but never for any length, and I was told, that was probably why I was able to control my dreams.  *shrug*  The entire medical community has decided I'm an 'interesting' anomaly.  Interesting is a BAD thing when it comes to Dr's.
 
I did best when I was running 20 hours a day as a single mom trying to put myself through school.  3-4 hours sleep a night and I was probably my most energetic during that period.
 
Who knows, my pituitary gland is messed up as well as my hippothalamus Wink
 
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 7th, 2003, 9:58am »
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I had insomnia for about 3 moths before this cycle began. It's been 31 days now, and I'm still in cycle. This may sound stupid but I actually get more sleep now than I did before this started. The beast almost always clobbers me during the day. I've only been hit at night three times.  
 
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on Jan 7th, 2003, 9:58am, Brassbear wrote:
The beast almost always clobbers me during the day. I've only been hit at night three times.

 
During the last couple cycles, I've rarely got hit during the day at all.  Just all night, every night.  Angry
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brassbear........ya need ta get rid of them 'moths'....they'll eat holes in yer clothes !!! (in yer last post).....hee-hee-hee........Pam  Wink
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