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(Bad) signs of the times
« on: Mar 18th, 2008, 5:18am » |
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Things aren't looking too good for Englewood, Fl. (and surrounding areas) business. To those of you who have been here, Basketville (a huge tourist attraction)that was here when I moved to the area in 1984, is closing, and a large ABC Liquor store and another very popular restaurant already have. Then there are so many little businesses.
Vinyltech, a large employer, is sinking quickly. They've laid off about 1,500 people already and now there's talk of their closing.
Forclosures are out of sight in this state, as well.
What's happening in your neck of the woods?
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #1 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 8:15am » |
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I see inflation outgrowing my paycheck. Its only a matter of time.
He's the worst president in History IMHO, and whoever takes the helm will not be able to get us back on course for years to come.
I voted for him, so I can only blame myself.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:15am, Sean_C wrote:I see inflation outgrowing my paycheck. Its only a matter of time.
He's the worst president in History IMHO, and whoever takes the helm will not be able to get us back on course for years to come.
I voted for him, so I can only blame myself.
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When's the last time we were all "on course"?
As a society it benefits the politicians of all sides to convince us that we are dangerously off course, and that change is needed, that doom is impending, that the bottom is going to drop out, things are ready to blow up, that the country is on the verge of imploding, that things will never be like they were, that they need to be different than they are, that the good old days were better, that we need to look toward the future, that we need more hope, that we need less complacency, that we need to think about how we solve the problems, that we need to act now to solve the problems.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #3 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 8:47am » |
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I can second Sean's comments 100% with the exception of the voting thing.........
Each week my money goes less and less far and my company lays off more people. Every office I visit has the "last day of school" feeling with 75% of the people who were once there gone and all the empty desks and cubes.
I do feel better that we got those WMD though, I guess that makes it all worth while..........
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #4 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:01am » |
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 8:47am, superhawk2300 wrote:I can second Sean's comments 100% with the exception of the voting thing.........
Each week my money goes less and less far and my company lays off more people. Every office I visit has the "last day of school" feeling with 75% of the people who were once there gone and all the empty desks and cubes.
I do feel better that we got those WMD though, I guess that makes it all worth while..........
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I wish things were that simple. Fact is, there are good times and not so good times. It's a natural part of the economic cycle. While that doesn't pay the bills it does allow one to understand that "this too will pass" and the future will not be what it is today.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #5 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:12am » |
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Its bad here also.
Foreclosures are out of sight in this state, as well.
Construction is down, but with the weather damage that might go back up. Layoffs are bad here to. Its bad every where.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #6 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:24am » |
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I certainly do agree with you that "the future will not be what it is today".
The days of buying tomatoes, oranges, etc. grown and sold in Florida are long gone. A few small produce stands are around, but the rest is imported and our produce is exported.
We are being charged $4.00 for a gallon of milk, $.72 per pound for bananas, almost $3.00 a pound for tomatoes and beef is off of my shopping list.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #7 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:24am » |
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It never ceases to amaze me that people can truly believe it's one guy's fault. We all have this need to point the finger, don't we?
Maybe it's the nature of the beast. I don't know. I give up.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #8 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:27am » |
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What's the point of having a president?
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Doesn't he influence anything?
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #9 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:39am » |
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 9:27am, DonnaH_again wrote:What's the point of having a president?
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The point is not to fix everything in our lives.
That is part of the problem now days. Everyone wants the govt. (the President) to do something to help them.
It is not the govt. or the Presidents job to do that!!!
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #11 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 9:58am » |
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Well, maybe it's time we started helping ourselves....
Me, I'm getting a garden spot ready. Plan to plant what I'm gonna eat. Haven't canned in a long time, but plan to get back in the swing of things (well maybe more freezing than canning, but ya get the idea).
Things are gettin' a little tuff in Texas too. But it's about like it was back in 83 when things hit rock bottom. Gas went up - staples went up, jobs went down and the government was gonna fix it all - they didn't. Interest rates got up to 20% and you couldn't give a house away.
But most of you weren't around back then and don't remember what we did back then. Some survived - some didn't. I forget who we were blaming it on then...
It just happens ever so often and we do what we gotta do. But Georgie Porgie is living in a dream world if he thinks things are just "peachy" right now. We're in a damn recession... and it's gonna get worse before it gets better.
And hell, I'm an optimist!
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #12 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:06am » |
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Barb I lived in Tx during that time.
I remember my Dad lost his business.
Both my parents had to go and find jobs.
My dad went from being a business owner to repossessing peoples belongings when they could not pay.
Times were tough, so we ate black label everything and our we shopped at the thrift store.
Then they turned around and things got better. I don't remember once my parents wishing that the govt would help us.
They just did what they had to do and that was that.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #13 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:19am » |
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It is really discouraging to me, that people are so eager to let the government take care of them. I wonder if they still teach history in schools or not. This country rose to greatness because of the independant, self-motivated, hard working spirit of the individual American citizens. We have slowly lost all of the virtues that made us great. Now instead of having the ability to work to better ourselves we are trapped in the middle (slave) class with no way out. Dark days are ahead folks, you've yet to even see the tip of the iceberg.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #14 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:25am » |
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Especially when people start worshipping politicians like they were sent from on high. Shades of Nazi Germany.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #15 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:37am » |
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Hey kids, I think we're talking about two different things here. I wasn't asking the gov't for anything.
Sometimes I wonder if I don't make myself clear enough to be understood because I always get answers to questions that I didn't even think of asking.
I lived in Cleveland, Ohio during the recession in 1982, raising 3 kids by myself. I never once asked for help from anyone including my family. The Ford and Chevy assembly plants closed as well as bunches of other business, big and small. Republic Steel shut down all but one boiler, etc.
I was a purchasing agent for a sheel metal fab shop, and the company I worked for was folding. I lost my job and after 11 months and a whole savings account later, sold my home at a $20,000.00 loss and was forced to move to Florida where there were a few jobs that I could fill. My mom lived down here and that is how I knew that.
Things have never really been the same BECAUSE bananas (and just about everything else) took a +200% increase while my wages are about the same as they were then.
I doubt that our kids and grandkids will ever have the opportunities that our parents had.
Some of us had garden spots back then. I did and filled a freezer every fall. Our grandkids probably won't have that chance.
We need to get more involved in our government by writing our State Reps and Congressmen...right?
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #16 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:45am » |
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 10:37am, DonnaH_again wrote:Hey kids, I think we're talking about two different things here. I wasn't asking the gov't for anything.
Didn't say you were, but the perception of the press/media and general public is that the government has to do something, just watch televison or read a paper, or some of the posts on this thread. You'll see what I'm referring too.
Sometimes I wonder if I don't make myself clear enough to be understood because I always get answers to questions that I didn't even think of asking.
Me too, happens around here a lot.
I lived in Cleveland, Ohio during the recession in 1982, raising 3 kids by myself. I never once asked for help from anyone including my family. The Ford and Chevy assembly plants closed as well as bunches of other business, big and small. Republic Steel shut down all but one boiler, etc.
I was a purchasing agent for a sheel metal fab shop, and the company I worked for was folding. I lost my job and after 11 months and a whole savings account later, sold my home at a $20,000.00 loss and was forced to move to Florida where there were a few jobs that I could fill. My mom lived down here and that is how I knew that.
Things have never really been the same BECAUSE bananas (and just about everything else) took a +200% increase while my wages are about the same as they were then.
I doubt that our kids and grandkids will ever have the opportunities that our parents had.
Some of us had garden spots back then. I did and filled a freezer every fall. Our grandkids probably won't have that chance.
We need to get more involved in our government by writing our State Reps and Congressmen...right?
No, we need to get more involved in pressuring the "two" major parties into actually nominating real candidates, get rid of the corruption in all levels of government and hold people accountable for the crimes they've commited against the American people and the Constitution. |
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #17 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:51am » |
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 10:37am, DonnaH_again wrote:Hey kids, I think we're talking about two different things here. I wasn't asking the gov't for anything.
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My comments were directed elsewhere, Donna.
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 5:18am, DonnaH_again wrote:Things aren't looking too good for Englewood, Fl. (and surrounding areas) business. What's happening in your neck of the woods?
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To answer your original question...
it's looking scary. I was born and raised in New York, which, by all accounts I've ever heard, is more expensive than many places.
Everywhere I look houses are for sale yet there was a huge rash of gentrification period in the "slummiest" parts of town. I wonder who's going to buy those lofts now...
Monday, yesterday I come in to work - a financial investment corp- to hear that Bear Stearns, a major financial institution was sold to JP Morgan for $2 a pop. It had been rollercoasting on Fri. and we saw some funny volume trading - strange, but not quite indicative of the catastrophe to come.
To say scary is an understatement. Many people went in to work early, not knowing whether they still had a job - and I'm not talking about the hotshots who make the big bucks and the McMansions and summer homes.
It was enough to make you throw up after having $1. roach coach coffee from the guy on the street corner. Starbucks, say goodbye to your regulars, its only a matter of time.
To me- - this remark summed it up in a nutshell -
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #20 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 12:36pm » |
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Yes back to the original question.
According to the news things are as bad as they could possibly be. I believe the phrase used on the news this morning was “as bad as the great depression”.
My job is going well we had a record breaking year last year in revenue and we are blowing away last year’s monthly goals this year.
I imagine my husband work place will just get more popular as more people will be keeping there cars longer and will need someone to fix things that are no longer under warranty, or just buying scooter to help with the cost of gas prices.
Gas prices are high, and so is everything else. So some things get cut out of the budget others are replacing with cheaper alternatives. Such as, I will not be spending the money to travel to Dallas for the convention. I will how ever try to see more of the great state of WI and do some camping, canoeing and hiking.
The only thing we do not own out right is our home. Car are old but paid for and we do not owe on any credit cards.
So I don’t know IS IT JUST ME? I don’t see the whole “great depression” thing.
I don’t know if it is all that bad !!!
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
« Reply #21 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 1:07pm » |
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on Mar 18th, 2008, 12:36pm, Killroy 2.0 wrote:
I don’t know if it is all that bad !!!
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Foreclosures are at a record level, the dollar is weaker than it ever has been on the global level, gas prices are incredibly high, food prices are through the roof, I haven't had a raise in three years......... It won't be long until everyone is feeling this.
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Re: (Bad) signs of the times
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Back in here, I live in a city in which getting a job is harder than hard and unemployment rate is high. And most employees are hiring just telemarketers, that's it.
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 6:53pm » |
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As a recruiter and a personnel manager I can tell all of you for certain, the economy sucks.
I have delt with peaks and valleys but this is the deepest valley I have ever been in.
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