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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #3 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 7:49pm » |
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Thanks, Theo and Delta.
This will be one step closer to taking guns away from law abiding citizens!
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #6 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 8:40pm » |
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What a nut case. If he wanted to do something sensational...I'd rather he take off his seat belt & drive his car into a brick wall. 
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #7 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 8:47pm » |
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on Feb 14th, 2008, 7:49pm, Jonny wrote:Thanks, Theo and Delta.
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Maybe if the first person he went after had been armed, there'd be 17 fewer people with injuries tonight. Or maybe - just maybe - if this whack job thought he might encounter some real resistance, he might have thought twice. When you're the only one with a gun, you're the one who's going to get the attention.
But the gun grabbers just don't see it that way.
And now four of those innocent people are dead. Including Mr. Whack Job, that makes 5.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #10 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 10:22pm » |
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It's terrifying and it's getting so that this kind of news is on page two or at least below the fold in some papers.
This kind of thing used by gun control advocates? Nah. I think stuff like this has the opposite effect.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #11 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 11:18pm » |
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wtf?????
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #12 on: Feb 14th, 2008, 11:46pm » |
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Arm the public!
These random shootings/murders are getting so out of hand it's scary. I say if you're ready to check out then fine, go out in the woods by yourself and blow your dumb ass away...we don't care! But leave the rest of us alone.
Last week some idiot walked into a city council meeting in one of our local municipalities and killed 2 cops, 3 city council members and shot the mayor in the face before he was taken down. And it was all over some unpaid fines for various violations.
Be careful it's a crazy world out there 
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #13 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 12:45am » |
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on Feb 14th, 2008, 8:47pm, brewcrew wrote:
Maybe if the first person he went after had been armed, there'd be 17 fewer people with injuries tonight.. |
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It seems the first person he shot at was the professor. Are you suggesting we should arm all the professors?
So far, I know my nephew and next door neighbor are alive and fine. Still waiting on probably 20 other kids I know that go there. Won't know until I see a list.
Several criticals were flown the 30 miles to the hospital down the road from here. Still probably in surgery. Hopefully the death toll won't rise.
Happy freakin Valentines day. Just what we needed...another Valentine's Day Massacre.
Just last week, the one at the Lane Bryant.
We also knew one of the women that was killed in the shooting at the Von Maur in Omaha (transfered from here). Getting tired of mass shootings around here. 
I don't get it. We've got people like O.J. and Drew Peterson just sitting around asking for it, and they always go after innocent people.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #14 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 1:15am » |
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Pure insanity. Wow Bob, you know quite a lot of people there. Please keep us posted of what you hear. All I saw on the news here were 20 injured, that's it.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #15 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 6:18am » |
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According to CNN, a 7th person has died. This is insane!
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #16 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 6:55am » |
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Most of our inner city schools have metal detectors in all grade levels. They also have posted parking signs at the main entrance, "Boston Police Parking Only".
The kids and parents feel safer knowing an armed officer is walking the halls during school hours in the gang-banger areas.
My prayers are with the family and friends of those in Illinoise.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #17 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 7:14am » |
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on Feb 14th, 2008, 8:47pm, brewcrew wrote:
Maybe if the first person he went after had been armed, there'd be 17 fewer people with injuries tonight. Or maybe - just maybe - if this whack job thought he might encounter some real resistance, he might have thought twice. When you're the only one with a gun, you're the one who's going to get the attention.
But the gun grabbers just don't see it that way.
And now four of those innocent people are dead. Including Mr. Whack Job, that makes 5. |
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I don't see it as a gun issue. I see it as a mental health issue. If sick fucks really want to kill others, concealed carry will not stop them all. Those nuts have a death wish, so arming sane people will not stop them - it will only cause them to change their targets somewhat.
If someone is wrapped up in fantasies of taking out 5 or 10 others, they probably will find a way to do it, even if others are armed.
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« Reply #18 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 7:24am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2008, 7:14am, monty wrote:| I see it as a mental health issue. |
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I agree 100%. Without using it as an excuse, mental health cutbacks have put an unpresidented amout of mentally ill people bck on the street because of budget cuts. A doctor told me its very difficult to "know" if anyone with mental illness is going to hurt someone in the "future" without suggestion.
I don't know any of the particulars of this case, but what I said is the truth.
I know emotions are extremely high, please don't take offence to it, it wasn't intended, my heart is with the victems.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #19 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 7:49am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2008, 12:45am, Pinkfloyd wrote:| It seems the first person he shot at was the professor. Are you suggesting we should arm all the professors? |
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I'm suggesting arming anyone who is interested in protecting themselves and passes a background check. If that's the professor, so be it.
If someone had taken this guy out early on, the death toll might not be up to 7 this morning.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #20 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 8:15am » |
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The first time I remember this kind of thing was the Texas Tower shooting in 1966 by Charles Whitman. Jeeze...that's more than 40 years ago....That pales in comparison but the story lasted a long time as a horrible abberation. Sigh......no longer...
I have the idea that video games and tv are too graphic. I'm not for censorship, just don't overdo the blood. Consequences and that people don't just fold up neatly and die are never shown.
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 8:18am » |
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on Feb 14th, 2008, 10:22pm, Charlie wrote:It's terrifying and it's getting so that this kind of news is on page two or at least below the fold in some papers.
This kind of thing used by gun control advocates? Nah. I think stuff like this has the opposite effect.
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Hmmm...Maybe this isn't such a bad thing. Perhaps if CNN and the likes would stop playing and replaying it over and over again like some sort of mantra it would lessen these ideas in other disturbed peoples heads.
Not saying it will go away but I think it would lesson the chance of copycats.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #22 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 8:56am » |
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Here's an interesting study presented by the Journal of the American Medical Association. This was published in 1999 and the objective was:
"To develop reliable US estimates of the medical costs of treating gunshot injuries and to present national estimates for the sources of payment for treating these injuries."
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/282/5/447
Granted this was published in 1999... I cringe to think of what the national cost of gunshot injuries are today.
There are no words which can express my frustration and sorrow over this tragedy. Sadly there is no simple solution. I wonder what the national cost for treating injuries inflicted by forks and other kitchen utensils is?
Perhaps the mindset to carry a lethal weapon is the way to go....  Make it mandatory that everyone over the age of 16 carry a firearm or face a fine or imprisonment. My logic is that all those inclined to inflict bodily injury will eventually be eliminated by the vigilant. Sure... a trip to the grocery store would be a terrifying proposition... but only for a decade or two... and after the mass graves are all covered and the blood stops flowing our country can stand tall and proud for being the recipient of The Darwin Award.
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #23 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 9:21am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2008, 8:56am, artonio7 wrote:
Perhaps the mindset to carry a lethal weapon is the way to go.... Make it mandatory that everyone over the age of 16 carry a firearm or face a fine or imprisonment. My logic is that all those inclined to inflict bodily injury will eventually be eliminated by the vigilant. Sure... a trip to the grocery store would be a terrifying proposition... but only for a decade or two... and after the mass graves are all covered and the blood stops flowing our country can stand tall and proud for being the recipient of The Darwin Award.
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But if every one did carry a gun, don't you think the disgruntled would simply find another way? Would mandatory carry laws stop someone from driving a car into a crowd, or triggering an explosion to express their rage? Wouldn't there still be situations where people were relatively more vulnerable to a mad gunman?
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Re: Another blood bath at a school
« Reply #24 on: Feb 15th, 2008, 9:30am » |
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on Feb 15th, 2008, 9:21am, monty wrote:
But if every one did carry a gun, don't you think the disgruntled would simply find another way? Would mandatory carry laws stop someone from driving a car into a crowd, or triggering an explosion to express their rage? Wouldn't there still be situations where people were relatively more vulnerable to a mad gunman?
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Oh don't be silly... at that point it would also be a criminal offense to be caught not wearing your personal body armor ... you know, kind of like the laws passed for wearing seat belts and securing infants in carseats.
*note to self.... buy stock in the body armor industry.
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