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« on: Feb 12th, 2008, 4:40pm »
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...what this is all about.
 
As Boston police prepare to go into some of the city's most dangerous neighborhoods, knock on doors of private houses, and ask if they can search for illegal guns without a warrant, officials are trying to pitch the idea of the plan as friendly cooperation to residents who still see it as a threatening intrusion.
 
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 4:50pm »
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Dont no whose hair brained idea this one is but I 'll know tommorow.
 
Knock Knock
Boston Police. Can we check for guns?
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« Reply #2 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 4:50pm »
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Welcome to the peoples republic of Massachusetts.  Where Big Brother now has a shiny new set of keys to your house.
 
The residents of the targeted neighborhoods aren't willing to drop a dime on the problems in their midst so the local PD is hoping to stumble upon the weapons.  
 
Of course this presumes that it is not the people that are causing all the problems, its the weapons?  WTF?
 
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 4:57pm »
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Just softening up the proletariat for the home invaders.
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« Reply #4 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 4:58pm »
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If my kids have guns in thier rooms it because I bought them for them. If I thought they had illegal guns I would be the one looking for them.
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 5:01pm »
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This was in the news about six weeks ago.
 
They wont arrest you as long as the gun was not used in a crime....LOL  grin2
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 5:07pm »
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It's a weird thing, but oftentimes when people are asked whether they'll give consent to a search, they will--even when they have something they'd rather hide.  It usually works best when it's a surprise and they don't have time to think it over.  
 
I will say that having cops in business suits, ministers, social workers, and who knows who all parading around the neighborhood asking if they can search somebody's house for guns gives it all the earmarks of an impending clusterf%ck.  
 
Maybe I'm wrong, but....
 
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 5:33pm »
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That picture is hysterical.
Also, the involvement of the clergy seems more suspicious to me than the intent of the police.
 
 
 
 
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 5:46pm »
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I do not understand, one of about 10,000,000 reasons I would never set foot in that screwed up state much less live there. They still revere that psycho/killer/drunken/women abusing Ted Kennedy.
 
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 5:46pm, Guiseppi wrote:
I do not understand, one of about 10,000,000 reasons I would never set foot in that screwed up state much less live there. They still revere that psycho/killer/drunken/women abusing Ted Kennedy.
 
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I live here but far from being part of the "they" you refer to.
 
I'm being given a full run down of the proposed gun program tommorow at a meeting by the police commissioner. Should be interesting to say the least.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 6:17pm »
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I live here but far from being part of the "they" you refer to.
 
Serves me right for painting with such a large brush. Mea culpa's to those I offended with the broad strokes! Embarassed
 
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« Reply #12 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 7:09pm »
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 6:19pm, Guiseppi wrote:
I live here but far from being part of the "they" you refer to.
 
Serves me right for painting with such a large brush. Mea culpa's to those I offended with the broad strokes! Embarassed
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Dont sweat it, bro.....we that live here can spot "They" on the street....LOL
 
Plus, I was not laughing at what you said, I got where you was coming from.  Wink  
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 12th, 2008, 7:31pm »
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 6:00pm, chewy wrote:

 
I live here but far from being part of the "they" you refer to.
 
I'm being given a full run down of the proposed gun program tommorow at a meeting by the police commissioner. Should be interesting to say the least.

 
 
 I hope you hit em over the head with The Constitution Chewy !!!
 
  I am disturbed on many levels as it relates to this. The worst part is that there are people who think it's a good idea.  "I dont need to catch a criminal bad enough to surrender all of MY rights"
 
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 6:19pm, Guiseppi wrote:
I live here but far from being part of the "they" you refer to.
 
Serves me right for painting with such a large brush. Mea culpa's to those I offended with the broad strokes! EmbarassedGuiseppi

 
No offense taken. Just dont want to get lumped into the liberal ass Ted Kennedy bunch.
 
What I'm hearing is its a political thing. The cops are looking at each other and shaking their heads.
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It is kind of ironic I think that one of the more liberal states with some of the strictest gun control wants the police to search homes without a warrent.  
 
I would have thought the liberals would be screaming like stuck pigs about how their freedoms and liberties are being taken away.  I'd like to see someone propose this idea in Montana.  LOL
 
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 7:51pm, Paul98 wrote:
It is kind of ironic I think that one of the more liberal states with some of the strictest gun control wants the police to search homes without a warrent.  
 
I would have thought the liberals would be screaming like stuck pigs about how their freedoms and liberties are being taken away.  I'd like to see someone propose this idea in Montana.  LOL
 
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Give it time. Well see how much support it gets. Some ACLU lawyer is bound to throw up a challenge.
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 8:08pm, chewy wrote:
Give it time. Well see how much support it gets. Some ACLU lawyer is bound to throw up a challenge.

 
Well, its been in the news for 6-7 weeks and not a squeak out of them so far.
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 8:15pm, Jonny wrote:

 
Well, its been in the news for 6-7 weeks and not a squeak out of them so far.

 
If the issue was illegal drugs instead of guns the ACLU would be all over it like white on rice.
 
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 8:15pm, Jonny wrote:

 
Well, its been in the news for 6-7 weeks and not a squeak out of them so far.

 
Wrong. Again.
 
http://www.aclu.org/racialjustice/gen/33247prs20071120.html
 
 
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 8:08pm, chewy wrote:
Give it time. Well see how much support it gets. Some ACLU lawyer is bound to throw up a challenge.

 
I guess that goes for both of us, no?.....LOL  grin2
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Five minutes after the first door is entered an ACLU Atty. will be filing papers in a court.
 
Until that happens its only a concept and the ACLU can only issue a commentary.
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 8:36pm, chewy wrote:
Five minutes after the first door is entered an ACLU Atty. will be filing papers in a court.
 
Until that happens its only a concept and the ACLU can only issue a commentary.

 
Jesus, you go from never hearing of this, to sitting down with the BPD comish tomorrow, to not knowing anything about the ACLU 2007 report, to not knowing this has already been done....LOL
 
Just who are you and what is your job?  
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I knew about last year when it was still just a concept.
 
I knew about the ACLU report. You didn't.
 
I know its difficult for you but try and follow the logic.
 
You cant legally challenge an action until that action has been implemented.
 
Read my original ACLU post. Read it slowly so you can understand that I used the word "challenge".
 
There...still....has....been...no....challenge....because..the...plan... hasn't....been......inplemented.
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on Feb 12th, 2008, 4:50pm, chewy wrote:
Dont no whose hair brained idea this one is but I 'll know tommorow.

 
Nuff said!
 
Dude, the last time I taked to you on the phone you were evicting a old lady out of one of the senior homes you run.....and laughing about it!
 
Now, just what is your job title, that you get to meet with the Boston police commish?
 
BTW...its "know"....not "no"
 
 
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