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Dying on TV - your thoughts?
« on: Jan 26th, 2008, 9:17am » |
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Finland's public service broadcaster, YLE, is now looking for regular joes and janes for a reality show with a difference. This time you do not need to be cute, sexy and young, but just ready to tell your intimate thoughts in front of a TV crew - and be permanetily ill and dying for sure.
This new program is based on a Dutch TV show format, in which dying bunch of people will tell about their thoughts and last wishes to viewers. Why on earth YLE decided to pick this one up is anyone's quess, but the whole idea has caused a lot of discussion in the media, most of them are against the show.
So, what do you think, is this program a nice way for a dying person to share his/hers legacy and take away some of the fears the rest of us might have towards dying or a clear sign that the reality TV has simply gone too far?
In the other news:
2 current Miss Finland candidates are members of a erotic dance group and their chances in the traditional contest is at stake.
Political satire show had a rough pilot: the show is just 15 minutes long but it had so many swearing words in it that the viewers gave record breaking amount of complaints to the network (which just happends to be YLE as well)
The female staff at Finland's parliament have been sexually harrased. Two female members of the parliament share their stories at daily papers, 2 female members of the parliament have not heard that something like this could happen in Finland.
It's been a slow week. 
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Re: Dying on TV - your thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 9:36am » |
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on Jan 26th, 2008, 9:17am, sandie99 wrote:| Finland's public service broadcaster, YLE, is now looking for regular joes and janes for a reality show with a difference. This time you do not need to be cute, sexy and young, but just ready to tell your intimate thoughts in front of a TV crew - and be permanetily ill and dying for sure. |
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My thoughts?
It disgusts me that the media will stop at nothing to make a buck.
Sorry Sandie, but you asked.
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Re: Dying on TV - your thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 9:42am » |
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Sean, no need to say you're sorry. I don't like the idea at all myself. I know what it's like to watch a loved-one fight a terminal disease and pass away. I don't need to watch the same story on TV.
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on Jan 26th, 2008, 9:42am, sandie99 wrote:Sean, no need to say you're sorry. I don't like the idea at all myself. I know what it's like to watch a loved-one fight a terminal disease and pass away. I don't need to watch the same story on TV.
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Its an emotional roller coaster, there's nothing entertaining there.
If it was a soap like ER, where death wasn't the main focus, it could play a role. But to watch someone on thier journey isn't for me. 
Cheers Sanna
Sean.................................
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« Reply #4 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 11:16am » |
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My friend Terry died 2 years ago from cancer. It was very unpleasant for me to watch him wither away & die. I cant see that being something I would enjoy watching.
If I had terminal cancer and was on that show, I would likely get arrested for what I would have to say about politicians and those who have screwed up my country.
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« Reply #5 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 11:29am » |
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When a journalist asked cancer survivor, a young woman, if she would watch the show, she hesitated. She said that if she would be fighting the cancer currently, she certainly would not and now, she's not sure.
I'm not sure if this show is a desperate attempt to get more viewers or what... YLE has been struckling a lot lately and even more since the digital age begun last August and lots of Finns who used to pay licence fee to YLE (for the priviledge to watch TV) decided not to watch TV and quit paying the TV permit and didn't purchase digital device (digi box or digital TV) which would allow them to keep on watching. Commercial networks have survived nicely for several years without the need to do anything like this. It's time for YLE to think of new solutions into their problems.
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« Reply #6 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 11:52am » |
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It would only sell in the states if ya actually died on camera and then they cooked ya and ate ya.
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« Reply #7 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 11:56am » |
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WOW
would anyone really wanna watch that?? People are sick
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« Reply #8 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 12:06pm » |
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on Jan 26th, 2008, 11:56am, Woobie wrote:WOW
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Good question... Aguess we'll find that one out once the show airs one day...  One thing is for sure: no matter how much YLE gets critical feedback, it will not change its mind and cancel the show.
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on Jan 26th, 2008, 12:06pm, sandie99 wrote:
Good question... Aguess we'll find that one out once the show airs one day... One thing is for sure: no matter how much YLE gets critical feedback, it will not change its mind and cancel the show. |
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My guess is YLE is canceling itself, its future is grim.
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« Reply #10 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 12:32pm » |
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Both birth and death are very private things. Broadcasting them is an invasion of privacy of the worst kind.
What's next - broadcasting executions?
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« Reply #11 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 12:36pm » |
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While I agree with the general sentiments expressed in this thread, I disagree with one thing: it will be popular. People will do anything when they think their neighbors aren't aware of it. Watching someone die via television is a sanitized version of the real thing. They'll watch. And yes, there are some sick m***** f*****s in this world.
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 12:53pm » |
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It looks like that 2008 will be a year in which all sorts of lines are defined what comes to privacy. This show will be one case. Right now I find it hard to believe that the show would turn into a huge ratings success.
Year ago we were horrified that our prime minister's ex wrote a tell-all book about their relationship and included lots of text messages and emails the PM had sent her. Prime minister got angry and sued. We'll find out later this year what the court thinks about PM's right to privacy. Because PM has been pretty quiet about his private life all through his career, he has advantage - and so far it has been illegal to print someone's private writings without their permission. It will be interesting to see how it goes.
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on Jan 26th, 2008, 12:32pm, Mosaicwench wrote:Both birth and death are very private things. Broadcasting them is an invasion of privacy of the worst kind.
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This subject can be seen with different eyes i think.
Birth we can see on the TV almost every day so thats nothing to talk about,but what are we humans most afraid of?? yess death
We humans have done the mistake and put that word in the taboo-box for decades,and that word scares us so much today that we refuse talk about it.
The way i see it we can learn that death "natural death" is not dangerous at all but only 1 of the 2 things we are certain to experience from day one.birth and death yess.What is done between those 2 is entirely up to us as individuals to do.
You may agree or disagree with me on this subject but this is the way i see it
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Indeed Svenn, they are the two events in our lives that we all share. We can't get away from them and the latter, death, is scary to most.
I was lucky enough that my father died a "natural" death in our home and my teenager was a part of the process. It's important to understand the process and be comfortable with it's outcome, but I won't abdicate my responsibility as a parent and a citizen to the MEDIA to pass along those values. They are in the business of making money, not upholding or teaching values.
I still don't believe either event should be televised.
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Now that I would pay to see, but im just one of those sick MoFo's in this world.
I felt cheated when I didnt get to see the rope snap Saddams neck! 
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I'm all for shattering all the fears about death, but still... I don't think that this show will help with that.
Naturally, so much depends on how the show is done and what kind of people are participating. If I'm not mistaken, it will be done in documentary style.
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That is very sad and I will not watch it at all if it airs here. 
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« Reply #18 on: Jan 26th, 2008, 2:36pm » |
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And just because some country somewhere has developed a new TV show format, that does not meat that it should be brought to Finland. 
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It depends on how they treat it. The 'Make-a-Wish Foundation' here does something similar. They deal with death in a positive way and put dying kids on display, but not in bad taste. Not saying that the TV will end up doing something in good taste, but who knows?
I remember when I first heard about a show called Wife Swapping - I thought it was ridiculous and disgusting. I ended up watching it one night while in the urgent care waiting room, and it wasn't at all what I imagined. It was ok. I watched a few more episodes but it became boring and formulaic quickly. But most shows are like that for me.
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I get nightmares with regular movies..I just can't imagine watching something like that 
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on Jan 26th, 2008, 11:56am, Woobie wrote:WOW
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Sure. George Carlin has gone into this...albeit a tad rougher than this idea 
Sounds pretty creepy to me but reality tv is cheap and very attractive to sellers of erectile disfunction drugs. Be prepared for more to come.
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« Reply #22 on: Jan 27th, 2008, 8:13am » |
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Stations are always trying to stay on top in the money/viewership market, so I'm not surprised at this. I really don't care if they broadcast it, but I for one, would not watch it.
I've seen too much of my family die that I am more drawn to stories of LIFE.
Re-populate the earth dammit!! 
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« Reply #23 on: Jan 27th, 2008, 9:04am » |
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" Reality " shows are sickening to begin with. A show like this is out of all realms of common sense.
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« Reply #24 on: Jan 27th, 2008, 9:12am » |
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Another interesting thing about all of this is that YLE's CEO decided not to make any comments about the planned show. That is new, because the man in question has hurt the broadcasting company's reputation with his comments about other YLE- related things several times within the past year. So when he actually keeps quiet about it, that tells something.
If I'd be interviewing him now, I'd like to know if he plans to watch this controversial show - he is a cancer survivor himself and his new wife nearly died last fall because of odd disease.
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