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How much is to much government?
« on: Jan 11th, 2008, 9:55pm » |
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Are we really going to allow the goverment to tells us what we can and cannot eat?
http://washingtontimes.com/article/20071221/BUSINESS/172025204/1006
If I feel like drinking lard out of the fucking can....who the fuck has the right to tell me I cant?
Why dont the goverment ban cigarette selling?.......Tax dollars?
Whats next?.......can you come up with something that they will take away next?
This is what the goverment is doing to the American people (Watch closely)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f497bdc546
Clean your guns, get the millitia ready, its coming! 
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Re: How much is to much goverment?
« Reply #2 on: Jan 11th, 2008, 10:24pm » |
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Sorry about the advert at the end, but this was to good not to post to this thread.
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Edit to add: "Government is not the solution to the problem, government IS the problem.
-Ronald Reagan
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #3 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 12:22am » |
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Government is supposed to be afraid of us, not the other way around. 
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #4 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 8:06am » |
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We've been apathetic for WAAAY too long and now we're getting it from all sides.
Taxes have gotten totally out of hand. Our "elected" officials are "sneaking" these little taxes on us for everything that we do.
This year, (without any fanfare at all) I found out I have to be "registered" with the STATE (for a slight fee - thank you very much - of $50) to do income taxes. Now I've already gone thru a screening process with the Feds and been doing this for about 100 years (at no charge - unless you want to count some "continuting" education at a fee) but now I have to PAY the state to practice!!!!!! We don't even have an income tax in Texas so what the hell does TX have to do with income TAX???
Now I can't have my trans fat to keep me going.... And they're gonna control the temp in my office -- what next????
The only good thing "they've" thought up lately is the new driver's license (for the illegal guest workers who actually get drivers license). I actually think this is a good idea. Of course the ACLU is against it, so it's got to be good!
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #6 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 12:45pm » |
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How much government is too much?? Good question.
If restaurants are unsanitary and unhealthy, is that something government should take action on? Or do we let the market fix the problem? People will get sick from eating at place and learn to not eat at places that do make them sick. Word will get out, so there is absolutely no need for inspections and shutting down places that have rats and flies in the kitchen??
If a food outlet wants to fry food in motor oil, don't pass a law against it - let people decide?? Because motor oil is cheaper, and foods fried it in last longer, and many people like the taste, and business should be free to do as it pleases?
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #7 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 2:25pm » |
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Where does this Big Brother thing stop?
Next the Californian Water board will control the flushing of all toilets in order to control water usage and to prevent overloading of the sewer systems.
No wonder governments are confiscating guns. they are scared that by confiscating cars, trans fats, controling thermostats and by what name you can call the "supervising adult whom takes care of you" i.e. mom or dad that ordinary folk make get a little upset with them.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #8 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 3:36pm » |
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I'm in.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #9 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 3:39pm » |
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on Jan 12th, 2008, 2:25pm, Turts wrote:
Where does this Big Brother thing stop?
Next the Californian Water board will control the flushing of all toilets in order to control water usage and to prevent overloading of the sewer systems.
, buy yours now. http://www.rensup.com/Toilets/13286.htm?adsrc=9000002 andrew.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #10 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 3:44pm » |
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on Jan 12th, 2008, 3:36pm, thebbz wrote:
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #11 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 4:28pm » |
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Wishfull think, Nobody will do anything about gov't interference accept bitch, and then bitch some more.
Go ahead and bitch if it makes you feel better but gov't is betting that's as far as it will go.
someone will surely point out that the flag in the corner is Dutch. It is and I don't live in the U.S. but what happens there affects my family and my American passport so no need to play that card.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #12 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 4:37pm » |
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Can you own your own weapon in Dutch land?
Guns keep the politicians on their toes...he...he 
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #13 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 4:54pm » |
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on Jan 12th, 2008, 4:28pm, karma wrote:
Wishfull think, Nobody will do anything about gov't interference accept bitch, and then bitch some more.
Go ahead and bitch if it makes you feel better but gov't is betting that's as far as it will go.
someone will surely point out that the flag in the corner is Dutch. It is and I don't live in the U.S. but what happens there affects my family and my American passport so no need to play that card. |
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How do you know what each individual will do Karma?
Yes, people will bitch a lot and things will undoubtedly get worse before something happens. Most people are willing to try to make change by bitching. It is our guarantee under our Constitution. It is the way we try a first effort at peaceful change. Remember, we are here because you are there. No offense, just fact.
Complaining and descent is our history & legacy...so is spilling the blood of tyrants. When people have had enough, the people will speak and act.
Just a question of time and how much is considered acceptable. Time & change have a way of making the reality of today evaporate and become something unrecognizable...know what I mean 
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #14 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 5:00pm » |
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Bitched about tea for quite some time before they made some.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #15 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 5:07pm » |
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I don't have a clue what that means.
How do I know? There has been no significant protest against gov't since the 60's, 70's That generation(of which I am a part) is now making the rules.
ironic isn't it?
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #16 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 5:15pm » |
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Yes, it is ironic...you are right.
However, as I have said, people will take crap for so long before it becomes worse to live with it than to fight about it.
Not just an American trait, a basic human trait...even YOU could be pushed too far.
For clarification purposed Karma, what I meant was that we are the ones who came here because living there sucked so bad we said: "I'm gonna get on a boat...maybe I'll die...but I've had enough"
The others stayed and allowed themselves to be oppressed.
That is OUR legacy.
Though it is true, many are domesticated..many are also of the same spirit of our ancestors.
I still have faith in any mans sense of justice that he or she will rise above when there is no option for dialogue. I do not share your fatalistic view for myself. It is the fabric I am made from.
Believe or not, doesn't matter. I tell you no lies.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #17 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 5:28pm » |
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on Jan 12th, 2008, 4:28pm, karma wrote:Wishfull think, Nobody will do anything about gov't interference accept bitch, and then bitch some more.
Go ahead and bitch if it makes you feel better but gov't is betting that's as far as it will go. |
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Thats what you think.....LOL
We did it before and we will do it again.....when the time comes!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tbCUGloMXSw&feature=related
And when the time comes do you really think the US armed forces are going to kill their brothers in the street like dogs?
They will join the militia and do whats right, because they ARE AMERICANS!!!
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #18 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 5:34pm » |
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Good point Jonny. And if they do...well I guess I am a dead man. Didn't think I would live forever anyways...no big deal.
As I said it is not a uniquely American trait, it is a question of balance.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #20 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 6:04pm » |
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Its all about money, the government doesnt ban cigarettes or alcohol because they get a huge amount of tax out of them.
However, they want to ban trans fat because they dont want people to develop heart disease and end up in government funded hospitals costing them money.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #21 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 6:13pm » |
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Yep just another case of the self serving policitian. 
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #22 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 6:20pm » |
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However, they want to ban trans fat because they dont want people to develop heart disease and end up in government funded hospitals costing them money. [/quote]  , in it's self, not such a bad thing. andrew.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #23 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 6:26pm » |
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Hell no that ain't bad Anj. I'm going to go eat some oatmeal and carrots now.
I think it's a choice of lifestyle. Not so much the lifesyle itself.
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Re: How much is to much government?
« Reply #24 on: Jan 12th, 2008, 6:45pm » |
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on Jan 12th, 2008, 6:20pm, andrewjb wrote:
However, they want to ban trans fat because they dont want people to develop heart disease and end up in government funded hospitals costing them money. , in it's self, not such a bad thing. andrew.
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Ever as jaded as I am Andrew, there remains the possibility that they are actually trying to limit waste in Govt. funded hospitals.
If this is true, it is good.
The problem we would have is the un-Constitutional precedent it sets to allow the Feds. to just come in and mandate what we can & cant eat.
Always viewing these type of mandates as a "slippery-slope"...we often garner the attention of the nay-sayers who attempt to classify us as "alarmists"
Conversely, I view these type of actions as very detrimental to our supposed lifestyle of Freedom.
I am often saddened by the apathy exhibited by so many Americans as it relates to such behavior in Gooberment....sigh
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